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[Jimmy Fury]

Then there's the purely theoretical other possibility that none of the males are s/s romancable and we have simply been deceived by clever wordplay.

Like it or not nobody has actually confirmed male-male romances. Only that "all genders and orientations" will be catered too.
Male, Female, Heterosexual, and Homosexual all get included with one m/f romance and one f/f romance. We are only assuming that they mean male, female, straight, gay, and lesbian.

Not that i'm accusing or suggesting it's likely or anything. Again, purely theoretical. I've been trying to keep my nagging paranoia in check but between all the excitement and the recent demo-fiasco it broke loose.

I am remaining hopeful for Anders to be the LI, hopeful that Fenris is nothing like I imagine him just in case he ends up being the LI, yet aware of the teeniest tiniest possibility that things could go horribly wrong.

[ladyofpayne]

When they show us Anders I understand- he is LI for Male. OH YEAH!

[Jademoon121]

It looks like the possibilities are down. Varric, Fenris, and Anders. I've said enough on who I want, but I'm going to be on edge about this till March. So many possibilities, so much lost and gained...but the prriiiizzze....
I still want Varric. I hate being stubborn about things of a mundane nature, but dangnabit I'll be oggling that catgrin of his throughout the entire game.

[Augoeides]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Then there's the purely theoretical other possibility that none of the males are s/s romancable and we have simply been deceived by clever wordplay.

Like it or not nobody has actually confirmed male-male romances. Only that "all genders and orientations" will be catered too.
Male, Female, Heterosexual, and Homosexual all get included with one m/f romance and one f/f romance. We are only assuming that they mean male, female, straight, gay, and lesbian.

Not that i'm accusing or suggesting it's likely or anything. Again, purely theoretical. I've been trying to keep my nagging paranoia in check but between all the excitement and the recent demo-fiasco it broke loose.

I am remaining hopeful for Anders to be the LI, hopeful that Fenris is nothing like I imagine him just in case he ends up being the LI, yet aware of the teeniest tiniest possibility that things could go horribly wrong.

I find what you call to be paranoia a very valid and real concern now that you mention it. But can you imagine the hurricane that explode if that were the case? I mean with some other Bioware releases that shan't be named we're not REALLY expecting any M/M only hoping, but with the history of DA:O, and the implied nature of M/M romance in DA2 people would feel VERY cheated and angry.

[Jademoon121]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Then there's the purely theoretical other possibility that none of the males are s/s romancable and we have simply been deceived by clever wordplay.

Like it or not nobody has actually confirmed male-male romances. Only that "all genders and orientations" will be catered too.
Male, Female, Heterosexual, and Homosexual all get included with one m/f romance and one f/f romance. We are only assuming that they mean male, female, straight, gay, and lesbian.

Not that i'm accusing or suggesting it's likely or anything. Again, purely theoretical. I've been trying to keep my nagging paranoia in check but between all the excitement and the recent demo-fiasco it broke loose.

I am remaining hopeful for Anders to be the LI, hopeful that Fenris is nothing like I imagine him just in case he ends up being the LI, yet aware of the teeniest tiniest possibility that things could go horribly wrong.

Didn't Bioware comfrim that there will be NPC "romances"? So even if the M/M LI turns out to be a total flop which is unlikely(This is Bioware) there will be other options that I hope just doensn't mean going to the local brothel.

[Saibh]

You know, I think they're in a lose-lose-lose situation with the M/M LI:

Fenris: WHAT? He's an ELF? What is up with that stereotype, BioWare? Do you have a problem with human bi guys? Or is that too risque for you?

Anders: WHAT? You picked the flirty man-whorish goof-ball? Clearly he's the most flamboyant of the men, so OF COURSE you picked him! What a stereotype!

Varric: WHAT? You picked another rogue? And a dwarf? Are the good-looking guys reserved for the women or something?

I really think the only one that wouldn't raise any ire is Sebastian, but he's DLC. Although, he's a rogue too.

Modifié par Saibh, 08 février 2011 - 06:21 .

[dreamextractor]

Jademoon121 wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Then there's the purely theoretical other possibility that none of the males are s/s romancable and we have simply been deceived by clever wordplay.

Like it or not nobody has actually confirmed male-male romances. Only that "all genders and orientations" will be catered too.
Male, Female, Heterosexual, and Homosexual all get included with one m/f romance and one f/f romance. We are only assuming that they mean male, female, straight, gay, and lesbian.

Not that i'm accusing or suggesting it's likely or anything. Again, purely theoretical. I've been trying to keep my nagging paranoia in check but between all the excitement and the recent demo-fiasco it broke loose.

I am remaining hopeful for Anders to be the LI, hopeful that Fenris is nothing like I imagine him just in case he ends up being the LI, yet aware of the teeniest tiniest possibility that things could go horribly wrong.

Didn't Bioware comfrim that there will be NPC "romances"? So even if the M/M LI turns out to be a total flop which is unlikely(This is Bioware) there will be other options that I hope just doensn't mean going to the local brothel.

I hope that NPC romances (outside of the party, if there are any) aren't just limited to straight characters, too <_<

Modifié par dreamextractor, 08 février 2011 - 06:22 .

[Jademoon121]

Saibh wrote...

You know, I think they're in a lose-lose-lose situation with the M/M LI:

Fenris: WHAT? He's an ELF? What is up with that stereotype, BioWare? Do you have a problem with human bi guys? Or is that too risque for you?

Anders: WHAT? You picked the flirty man-whorish goof-ball? Clearly he's the most flamboyant of the men, so OF COURSE you picked him! What a stereotype!

Varric: WHAT? You picked another rogue? And a dwarf? Are the good-looking guys reserved for the women or something?

I really think the only one that wouldn't raise any ire is Sebastian, but he's DLC. Although, he's a rogue too.

Yeah, but the redeeming quality that Bioware is known for their characters is persona and character developement. So long as Fenris isn't a Zevran clone, Anders acts a bit more...mature(?) due to his actions in Vigil's keep(read the wiki) and that Varric doesn't come off as a debuached trade prince(Which I like FOR SHAME), then I think this'll turn out just fine.

[Augoeides]

Saibh wrote...

You know, I think they're in a lose-lose-lose situation with the M/M LI:

Fenris: WHAT? He's an ELF? What is up with that stereotype, BioWare? Do you have a problem with human bi guys? Or is that too risque for you?

Anders: WHAT? You picked the flirty man-whorish goof-ball? Clearly he's the most flamboyant of the men, so OF COURSE you picked him! What a stereotype!

Varric: WHAT? You picked another rogue? And a dwarf? Are the good-looking guys reserved for the women or something?

I really think the only one that wouldn't raise any ire is Sebastian, but he's DLC. Although, he's a rogue too.

So true!

Despite you know... Dairren from Human Noble being a bi human guy who was likely a 'Warrior' given the unique dialogue Human Noble warriors got with him.

There's the human guard (Warrior) from Fort Drake who a male warden could seduce.

Or Sky from Jade Empire who was a bi human although, basicallly a rogue.

[KawaiiKatie]

dreamextractor wrote...
I hope that NPC romances (outside of the party, if there are any) aren't just limited to straight characters, too <_<

Oh no, don't worry, there's sure to be plenty of bisexual females. <_<

(Sorry, that's just my jealousy speaking.)

While it's true that no male same-sex romances have been confirmed, wasn't that the same for Origins? Before the game released, we knew that same-sex romances would be possible, but male/male pairings were never officially confirmed, had there?

Maybe it's standard not to hype the male/male angle too much. I don't know.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 08 février 2011 - 06:30 .

[Jademoon121]

dreamextractor wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Then there's the purely theoretical other possibility that none of the males are s/s romancable and we have simply been deceived by clever wordplay.

Like it or not nobody has actually confirmed male-male romances. Only that "all genders and orientations" will be catered too.
Male, Female, Heterosexual, and Homosexual all get included with one m/f romance and one f/f romance. We are only assuming that they mean male, female, straight, gay, and lesbian.

Not that i'm accusing or suggesting it's likely or anything. Again, purely theoretical. I've been trying to keep my nagging paranoia in check but between all the excitement and the recent demo-fiasco it broke loose.

I am remaining hopeful for Anders to be the LI, hopeful that Fenris is nothing like I imagine him just in case he ends up being the LI, yet aware of the teeniest tiniest possibility that things could go horribly wrong.

Didn't Bioware comfrim that there will be NPC "romances"? So even if the M/M LI turns out to be a total flop which is unlikely(This is Bioware) there will be other options that I hope just doensn't mean going to the local brothel.

I hope that NPC romances (outside of the party, if there are any) aren't just limited to straight characters, too <_<

Bioware said that there will be oppritunites for all genders and oreintations. If thats the case then we'll be fine.

[Jademoon121]

Augoeides wrote...

Saibh wrote...

You know, I think they're in a lose-lose-lose situation with the M/M LI:

Fenris: WHAT? He's an ELF? What is up with that stereotype, BioWare? Do you have a problem with human bi guys? Or is that too risque for you?

Anders: WHAT? You picked the flirty man-whorish goof-ball? Clearly he's the most flamboyant of the men, so OF COURSE you picked him! What a stereotype!

Varric: WHAT? You picked another rogue? And a dwarf? Are the good-looking guys reserved for the women or something?

I really think the only one that wouldn't raise any ire is Sebastian, but he's DLC. Although, he's a rogue too.

So true!

Despite you know... Dairren from Human Noble being a bi human guy who was likely a 'Warrior' given the unique dialogue Human Noble warriors got with him.

There's the human guard (Warrior) from Fort Drake who a male warden could seduce.

Or Sky from Jade Empire who was a bi human although, basicallly a rogue.

There's a lot of ambiguity in this. No doubt about that. In the end though, Bioware can't make everyone happy. Hopefully though when the M/M LI is announced there will be plenty more options for the myserious elf/eccentric mage/dwarf trade prince-inclined.

Modifié par Jademoon121, 08 février 2011 - 06:30 .

[Collider]

I agree Saibh. There will be people disappointed no matter what they do.

I imagine Anders would draw the least amount of criticism, but one problem is that he seems to have shown a preference for women already, in Awakenings.

[MorningBird]

Augoeides wrote...

Saibh wrote...

You know, I think they're in a lose-lose-lose situation with the M/M LI:

Fenris: WHAT? He's an ELF? What is up with that stereotype, BioWare? Do you have a problem with human bi guys? Or is that too risque for you?

Anders: WHAT? You picked the flirty man-whorish goof-ball? Clearly he's the most flamboyant of the men, so OF COURSE you picked him! What a stereotype!

Varric: WHAT? You picked another rogue? And a dwarf? Are the good-looking guys reserved for the women or something?

I really think the only one that wouldn't raise any ire is Sebastian, but he's DLC. Although, he's a rogue too.

So true!

Despite you know... Dairren from Human Noble being a bi human guy who was likely a 'Warrior' given the unique dialogue Human Noble warriors got with him.

There's the human guard (Warrior) from Fort Drake who a male warden could seduce.

Or Sky from Jade Empire who was a bi human although, basicallly a rogue.

I tried to seduce Dairren once, but wanted to do it in a way where I wasn't 'coming on too strong'.  xD  Needless to say, my attempts at courtship sadly failed. ='(

@Your concern regarding all bi LI and the infamous NINJA!romances:  Funny story, that happened to me during my latest play-through with Morrigan.

Should not have told her that she could 'prod' me anytime. =(  I thought it was playful banter.  Apparently I was macking in her. xD

However, I don't think that's going to be a concern in future games.  Granted, DA:2 isn't out yet, but the developers have stated that the 'flirt' icon/lines are obviously indicated with a <3, and that 'romance' doesn't start unless an interest is indicated by the PC.

[Saibh]

Collider wrote...

I agree Saibh. There will be people disappointed no matter what they do.
I imagine Anders would draw the least amount of criticism, but one problem is that he seems to have shown a preference for women already, in Awakenings.

Yeah. I'm not sure who I'd prefer. Anders only ever shows an interest in women. A strong, vested interest, in fact. It was even in his character bio when he was announced for Awakening. " In truth, all he wants is freedom--well, freedom, a good meal, and a pretty girl on his arm. That's not too much to ask, is it?" Which, of course, is one of his quotes.

So it seems far more likely that it's Fenris. It's not really changing anything for him to show an interest in M!Hawke, but it is sort of inconsistent. Whereas there is no risk of that with Fenris.

[Slugwood]

Holy crap, just saw the news.

I want Anders so baaaaaaad but there seems to be so much going against it. And if the Justice theory is correct, then...I can't see him being a romance, period.

[Deviija]

KawaiiKatie wrote...
While it's true that no male same-sex romances have been confirmed, wasn't that the same for Origins? Before the game released, we knew that same-sex romances would be possible, but male/male pairings were never officially confirmed, had there?

It was officially confirmed on Twitter about two months prior to release of DAO that there would be same-sex romances.  It was used in the plural, so people were optimistic in assuming that it meant one romance (at least) per male and female PC.  And although we knew at that point which characters were romanceable (via the achievements that came out and featured Alistair, Morrigan, Zevran, and Leliana on their list), we did not know who had what sexuality.

Out of the options of Varric, Fen, and Anders, I do hope that Anders is the bi option (even if I think it unlikely).  That is personal wants speaking, though.  If only because the rest of the lineup doesn't seem too appealing to me.  For example, Varric may seem fun and amusing due to writers posting teases in the Varric threads and all the wonderful and witty fanart we've had... but we really don't know how he'll end up throughout the game personality-wise or how he'd act in a relationship.  I think some people will only be let down by the built up imagery fans have created around Varric -- and the real Varric not living up to the imagery in the actual game itself. 

I'd like it if Sebastian was the bi dude, but being DLC... doubt that. 

Modifié par Deviija, 08 février 2011 - 07:02 .

[Collider]

Yes, they didn't confirm Leliana and Zevran as the bi options. Other people did. I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same for DA2. Confirm same sex options, but not who.

[upsettingshorts]

Deviija wrote...

I think some people will only be let down by the built up imagery fans have created around Varric -- and the real Varric not living up to the imagery in the actual game itself. 

For more of this see every other character thread.

It's also not something that stops once the game is released either.   For that, again see every other character thread.

[Fidget6]

Saibh wrote...

You know, I think they're in a lose-lose-lose situation with the M/M LI:

Fenris: WHAT? He's an ELF? What is up with that stereotype, BioWare? Do you have a problem with human bi guys? Or is that too risque for you?

Anders: WHAT? You picked the flirty man-whorish goof-ball? Clearly he's the most flamboyant of the men, so OF COURSE you picked him! What a stereotype!

Varric: WHAT? You picked another rogue? And a dwarf? Are the good-looking guys reserved for the women or something?

I really think the only one that wouldn't raise any ire is Sebastian, but he's DLC. Although, he's a rogue too.

I'm gay and would personally love either Fenris or Anders as the s/s option. Varric, not so much, but I don't think there's any way in hell he's the s/s option personally, but maybe if they just really wanted to go outside of what was expected.....  
Either way, I think Fenris will be an interesting LI because of the whole "not liking to be touched" thing. I think it will probably take some convincing for him to sleep with you, but I think it could make for a really hot and interesting scene if done right.

[Calla S]

Fidget6 wrote...
but I don't think there's any way in hell he's the s/s option personally

This is why I want it to happen. Just so I can laugh my little arse off at everyone with the other Varric fans.

[Augoeides]

Fidget6 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

You know, I think they're in a lose-lose-lose situation with the M/M LI:

Fenris: WHAT? He's an ELF? What is up with that stereotype, BioWare? Do you have a problem with human bi guys? Or is that too risque for you?

Anders: WHAT? You picked the flirty man-whorish goof-ball? Clearly he's the most flamboyant of the men, so OF COURSE you picked him! What a stereotype!

Varric: WHAT? You picked another rogue? And a dwarf? Are the good-looking guys reserved for the women or something?

I really think the only one that wouldn't raise any ire is Sebastian, but he's DLC. Although, he's a rogue too.

I'm gay and would personally love either Fenris or Anders as the s/s option. Varric, not so much, but I don't think there's any way in hell he's the s/s option personally, but maybe if they just really wanted to go outside of what was expected.....  
Either way, I think Fenris will be an interesting LI because of the whole "not liking to be touched" thing. I think it will probably take some convincing for him to sleep with you, but I think it could make for a really hot and interesting scene if done right.

Hell, the kiss scene would be amazing by itself, because of his aversion to touching, any intimate contact be it sexual or just purely romantic gets its 'awww/hot' factor upped by 500%

[Fidget6]

Augoeides wrote...

Fidget6 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

You know, I think they're in a lose-lose-lose situation with the M/M LI:

Fenris: WHAT? He's an ELF? What is up with that stereotype, BioWare? Do you have a problem with human bi guys? Or is that too risque for you?

Anders: WHAT? You picked the flirty man-whorish goof-ball? Clearly he's the most flamboyant of the men, so OF COURSE you picked him! What a stereotype!

Varric: WHAT? You picked another rogue? And a dwarf? Are the good-looking guys reserved for the women or something?

I really think the only one that wouldn't raise any ire is Sebastian, but he's DLC. Although, he's a rogue too.

I'm gay and would personally love either Fenris or Anders as the s/s option. Varric, not so much, but I don't think there's any way in hell he's the s/s option personally, but maybe if they just really wanted to go outside of what was expected.....  
Either way, I think Fenris will be an interesting LI because of the whole "not liking to be touched" thing. I think it will probably take some convincing for him to sleep with you, but I think it could make for a really hot and interesting scene if done right.

Hell, the kiss scene would be amazing by itself, because of his aversion to touching, any intimate contact be it sexual or just purely romantic gets its 'awww/hot' factor upped by 500%

Agreed. I'm really excited for his romance, regardless whether it's m/m or not. :happy:

[David Gaider]

Jimmy Fury wrote...
Like it or not nobody has actually confirmed male-male romances. Only that "all genders and orientations" will be catered too.

Wow, that's some paranoia right there. Consider male-male romance confirmed, then.

Saibh wrote...
You know, I think they're in a lose-lose-lose situation with the M/M LI:

Fenris:
WHAT? He's an ELF? What is up with that stereotype, BioWare? Do you
have a problem with human bi guys? Or is that too risque for you?

Anders:
WHAT? You picked the flirty man-whorish goof-ball? Clearly he's the
most flamboyant of the men, so OF COURSE you picked him! What a
stereotype!

Varric: WHAT? You picked another rogue? And a dwarf? Are the good-looking guys reserved for the women or something?

I really think the only one that wouldn't raise any ire is Sebastian, but he's DLC. Although, he's a rogue too.

You forgot

Sebastian: WHAT? You mean if we want to sleep with another man we have to PAY FOR IT?!

On second thought, maybe all romances should be DLC. Now there's a thought...

Modifié par David Gaider, 08 février 2011 - 07:30 .

[Collider]

Yay, confirmed M/M.

Modifié par Collider, 08 février 2011 - 07:30 .