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#7476
catabuca

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IndelibleJester wrote...


They said default Hawke hairs are not in the final, lady or male.


That makes me very sad. I wonder why they aren't?

#7477
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Kyriani Agrivar wrote...

You'll forgive me but I'm 35... I grew up while the world was still growing into this more inclusive day and age and you'll also have to forgive that I still remember the torment I went through as a child. The rest of you "average mortals" weren't being told every day by every advertisement, every film, every preacher that there is something wrong with you, that you will never be happy, that you somehow made a choice to be the way you are and it is your fault when people attack you, or burn down your home just because you are different from them.


That kind of stuff definitely happens, but it's not indicative of the sort of treatment the average gay is likely to receive in the U.S..

Blacks on the other hand, experienced that sort of treatment near universally in the U.S at one time..


Marriage may not be a right.. but is it fair to exclude me from being a part of it just because the person I marry and I can't have children? Wouldn't that mean infertile couples also shouldn't be allowed to marry? No that's silly... just as silly as trying to justify not allowing me to marry the person I lovve.


As I said before, marriage has been evolving over the centuries, and only recently, has it become more about two peoples' love for each other rather than procreation, blood lines etc...

The lack of full acceptance for gay marriage that you see now, is likely just a vestigial remnant of traditions that have been in place for many, many years. 

Eventually, it will begin to dawn on people that not allowing gays to marry serves no real purpose other than bias, and their opposition will lessen as time goes by.

Thats what happened to me at least.


You said it depends on the state... yes it really does... and for as many states as you find have civil unions or equal marriage there are as many and more that don't. If you are white and straight I doubt you can ever truly appreciate and understand what it is to be a minority. Until you experience it to feel the isolation, the hate, the complete disregard for your humanity, you can never truly understand the gravity of what it can be like for some of us.


I'm not white, but I think you're over blowing it a bit.  The U.S affords more rights to minorities than most nations by far.  Minorities have a lot of power here, which is why a gay movement started to begin with.

Trust me, there are plenty of places that are far less hospitable to gays than the U.S....


I hope you're right and we do someday see equal marriage. But moreso I'd like to see a world where me being gay isn't a big deal at all and I am just seen as a person and not defined by my sexuality.


Now this is a lot harder to ask.  While most people could be reasoned with to agree that gays should be afforded the same rights and protections as everyone else, I doubt most people would eventually come to believe that being gay is as normal as being straight. 

There is a reason why gays have been prejudiced against for thousands of years.  Because they contradict  innate human biology.

Gay men and women have the exact same biological sexual equipment as straight men and women do, but they are attracted to the same sex rather than the opposite sex.

It is this observation that has led to gays being seen as unnatural, abominations etc over the centuries..  Of course, Scientific research is now giving us tremendous insight as to why homosexuality exists at all, but before, all people had to rely on was their common sense and their holy books; both of which stated the obvious, at least in a superficial sense.


Anyways thats enough ranting from me feel free to have the last word but I dont want to turn this topic into my personal soapbox


It's an interesting topic.

Modifié par Carfax, 04 mars 2011 - 07:47 .


#7478
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w00t! Page 300!

*pops another cork*

*drinks more champagne*

#7479
plumededragop

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Happy 300th page! :D<3:wub::wizard:

But yes, why no default hair? :(

#7480
ladyofpayne

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Anders love bearded guys.:devil: 
His BI surprize me. Fenris very sutable for this role but he... I am glad anyway. More BI more funny moment.
Fen vs And for MHawke.:wub:

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Guys, relax. The default hair mod will probably be one of the first mods available.

#7482
Neezoy

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Page 300! Yay!


The default hair is probably not in the CC because they wanted something to make their default Hawkes unique (so we'd pick them). Or maybe it's just to mess with us (got to know we'd mod it eventually)... like they like to do? :D

Modifié par Neezoy, 04 mars 2011 - 07:53 .


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KnightOfTwo

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300 pages, now who shall do the obligatory reference?

#7484
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zrisso wrote...

Guys, relax. The default hair mod will probably be one of the first mods available.


Not for those on the consoles it won't. It's acceptable to ask if the hair is available, and to say 'that's a shame, I wish it was' when we find out it isn't. Doesn't need a 'guys, relax'.

#7485
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KnightOfTwo wrote...

300 pages, now who shall do the obligatory reference?


THIS IS AUFGESTOOOOOOOOCKKTTTT

(how was that?)

#7486
IndelibleJester

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You know what? I'm going to do an AndersxHawke painting. Because Anders is the cutest son of a **** I ever will romance. And someone said there isn't enough of it.

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WE'RE GOING TO PLAY A GAME. It's called the not responding to provoking posts game. If you lose, the penalty is a giant wall of text from someone who isn't here to support M/M love and doesn't love you. Get ready... Go!

IndelibleJester wrote...

You know what? I'm going to do an AndersxHawke painting. Because Anders is the cutest son of a **** I ever will romance. And someone said there isn't enough of it.

That was me. JOY.

Modifié par lilliful, 04 mars 2011 - 07:52 .


#7488
KnightOfTwo

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catabuca wrote...

KnightOfTwo wrote...

300 pages, now who shall do the obligatory reference?


THIS IS AUFGESTOOOOOOOOCKKTTTT

(how was that?)

A perfect fit.:D

#7489
IndelibleJester

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Does anyone have a good side-view pic of Anders?

#7490
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lilliful wrote...

I LOVE IT! We don't have nearly enough Anders/M!Hawke art! Don't stop now! Draw an even more scandalous one D:


Thank you sooo much. Hahaha may be I will draw some more tomorrow. It's going to take some time. I have been away from drawing for a reallyyyy long time. And thanks for the confirmation too!! :D Yay, now I can go to sleep!

Shandyr wrote...

Ok, while I think this is just a cute and adorable drawing... I have some problems with the anatomy in regards of Anders. Where exactly are Ander's arms? I mean, I see one hand touching Hawks shoulder (but where is that arm the hand belongs to? - and where is Ander's second arm?)


Oh boy, as I've apologized in my post... I'm realllyyyyyy sorry about that. It might be a bit out of place. The hand was supposed to be behind Hawke's arm. Try to imagine realllll hard. Hahah Well, what's drawn is drawn right? I didn't want to waste it and just keep it to myself. 

I used to be much better than this. I really need my mojo back :( Next time, aye capt'n? :) Promise I'll be better

#7491
Deviija

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I'm happy with both Fenris and Anders being same-sex (bi) LIs. Granted, if I have to choose, I am Team Anders, but the more choices the better! :D

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plumededragop

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Eeeh, I feel like I'm the only Team Fenris here.... hello? ^^ :P

And I agree about M!HawkexAnders fan art, it's really nice! :)<3

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plumededragop wrote...

Eeeh, I feel like I'm the only Team Fenris here.... hello? ^^ :P

And I agree about M!HawkexAnders fan art, it's really nice! :)<3


I'm on task force Fenris but I like Anders to.

Modifié par Fenn , 04 mars 2011 - 07:59 .


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monkeytsuna

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plumededragop wrote...

Eeeh, I feel like I'm the only Team Fenris here.... hello? ^^ :P

And I agree about M!HawkexAnders fan art, it's really nice! :)<3


Thanks!! I really needed that. :D More support for my fanarts coming up!! May be next one is Fenris, just for you!!  :lol:

#7495
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plumededragop wrote...

Eeeh, I feel like I'm the only Team Fenris here.... hello? ^^ :P


No, you're not. Team Fenris FTW! :D (Though Anders intrigues me more and more he has still a long way to go to reach Fenris' level of epicness.)

Modifié par Neezoy, 04 mars 2011 - 08:02 .


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monkeytsuna wrote...

 

plumededragop wrote...

Eeeh, I feel like I'm the only Team Fenris here.... hello? ^^ :P

And I agree about M!HawkexAnders fan art, it's really nice! :)<3


Thanks!! I really needed that. :D More support for my fanarts coming up!! May be next one is Fenris, just for you!!  :lol:


The anders picture is very cute can't wait to see more of your art.

#7497
Crocodiles

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the spoilers thread has a ton of pics

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plumededragop wrote...

Eeeh, I feel like I'm the only Team Fenris here.... hello? ^^ :P

And I agree about M!HawkexAnders fan art, it's really nice! :)<3


I'm on team everyone. :whistle:

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Kyriani Agrivar

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wtb many hairstyles! and I need a preset that isnt "fat faced".... even minimizing what I can I can't even come close to what I looked like in DA:O how can I romance a handsome man like Anders when I look like I'm retaining water??? D=

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Carfax wrote...




There is a reason why gays have been prejudiced against for thousands of years.  Because they contradict  innate human biology.

Gay men and women have the exact same biological sexual equipment as straight men and women do, but they are attracted to the same sex rather than the opposite sex.




Um, that's not entirely true, at least not for men. Prostate

It's getting a bit off topic though, so maybe should get back on it? ;)