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#1251
Russalka

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Threeparts wrote...
I don't think it's so much that their pain makes them more attractive, just that it makes the character, as written, more interesting. As I've stated before, I'm not a fan of 'fixer' relationships, but in a game where story-telling and drama is key, we're unlikely to have many characters - LIs or otherwise - who are well-adjusted and 'normal'.
Isabela apparently is troubled deep down (though about what I have no idea), Anders is possed, Fenris is an escaped slave, Merrill uses blood to control people, your sister is an apostate on the run from the law, Aveline's husband was just brutally killed in front of her, and Carver... well, Carver and Varric may actually be the most unscathed out of the lot of them. Not really a whole lot of choice if you're looking for healthy relationships.


I do recall a conversation from way back, with Monsieur Gaider also replying. He mentioned how love interests or perhaps even companions can never be entirely normal or healthy or without skeletons in their closet.

There really would not be a storyline without these hooks. I imagine the rivalry/friendship paths will give this thing whole new dimmensions. Perhaps it will not always be a fixer relationship.

So, to keep in topic, here is to a character whose bisexuality is not overly connected with a dark past. That these things would be more independent of each other. It did seem a bit too much with Zevran.

Modifié par Russalka, 13 février 2011 - 10:16 .


#1252
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agreed, its not so much sadism as interest in the form of story. Learning about the characters past, especially when they have negative parts of their past, makes the character more believable and you want to learn more about how this person ticks. A guy who's been happy his whole life with never a worry or care in the world, never had any problem, would be boring. What sort of character quest would someone like that have if life's just been hunky-dory for them? 'Say Hawke...there's this pastry I've really wanted to try, but I can't seem to find it anymore in the shops. I'll just die if I never get to try it! If you find one, can you buy it for me?' *chuckles*



In a fantasy game, especially, we want something beyond the ordinary that we'd find in real life. Or that's just my guess. =)

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Mr. Gaider also said something about you being able to "bed" someone who is your rival. Sort of a I hate you/ but lets hit the sheets kind of thing. Actually from what I know of all the male characters, I really don't have a preference for who the male bi-sexual interest will be. Anders is an obvious choice because he was my favorite in Awakening. Varric is another because for a dwarf he looks kinda hot and sounds like he would be fun to romance.

#1254
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Dave of Canada wrote...

Saibh wrote...

...Am I the only one hearing music on this page?


LethargicBear has an unseeable signature that plays youtube videos, he's going in every thread doing something like "I agree" or something. Since he just signed up, I assume a troll.


That explains why I was hearing some dialogue from Beavis and Butthead where they were watching porn. I had thirty tabs open and I was closing them one by one but couldn't for the life of me figure out where it was coming from.

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Erani

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Silent Obscurity wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Saibh wrote...

...Am I the only one hearing music on this page?


LethargicBear has an unseeable signature that plays youtube videos, he's going in every thread doing something like "I agree" or something. Since he just signed up, I assume a troll.


That explains why I was hearing some dialogue from Beavis and Butthead where they were watching porn. I had thirty tabs open and I was closing them one by one but couldn't for the life of me figure out where it was coming from.


:lol::lol::lol:

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I don't understand what the hype is about with Fenris. I honestly thought he was a female when I saw this picture: http://dragonage.wik...le:Fenris-1.jpg

I don't want yet another elf M/M LI, especially not after thinking he was a female since he was announced up until today...

Varric would be a good option as the first ever Dwarf LI with bonus points for the romance being opened to both Hawke genders. Anders would probably be a good option as well, but I don't know how the Justice thing will work out for a romance. But if the former two aren't options, Sebastian would be a really good option even if he's DLC. His voice is just... great. I'd actually really prefer Sebastian personally. If Fenris really is the LI, I'm just gonna have to hope someone makes a DA2 version of Equal Love.

Modifié par irvm89, 14 février 2011 - 04:53 .


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Hmm, in terms of looks Fenris would be my favourite too. But that's not a guarantee for anything. Last time I was moaning about Zevran, but in the end I found he was not only a useful party member but also an interesting romance. So this time I will just wait and see.

#1258
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irvm89 wrote...

I don't understand what the hype is about with Fenris. I honestly thought he was a female when I saw this picture: http://dragonage.wik...le:Fenris-1.jpg

I don't want yet another elf M/M LI, especially not after thinking he was a female since he was announced up until today...


Thank you for your opinion. 

#1259
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no not another effeminate elf for m/m li.....stop clichè please....

Modifié par Rixxencaxx, 14 février 2011 - 05:38 .


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Man, I wish people stop using the male-elf-AGAIN!? LI excuse all the time. Frankly I would pick Sebastian if I had a choice, but if Fenris is deem more appropriate to be the m/m LI by bioware I don't see what the big deal is, he's an elf yeah, but he's no Zevran in terms of personality.




#1261
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First, Zevran was not feminine. You can make a case that he was flamboyant, but that's not the same thing. Nor is it a bad thing. Nor was he flamboyant in a stereotypically gay fashion.



Second, Fenris is almost certainly not feminine. We actually know approximately nothing at all about him, so I don't know where the "a bloo bloo feminine elf" stuff is coming from.



Third, sometime people are feminine. Deal with it.

#1262
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agreed, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm tired of discussing it personally, cause no one is going to let the 'elf' thing go. xD Fear the cliche and tropes! They will smight you in your sleep...or in Zevran's case, jump you in your sleep. >8)

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Blue_Shayde wrote...

agreed, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm tired of discussing it personally, cause no one is going to let the 'elf' thing go. xD Fear the cliche and tropes! They will smight you in your sleep...or in Zevran's case, jump you in your sleep. >8)


equal love mod made the day for me.....alistair vs zevran 100-0

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Blue_Shayde wrote...

agreed, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm tired of discussing it personally, cause no one is going to let the 'elf' thing go)


It's like a neverending story.

#1265
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I find it funny that western people criticize japanese developers for almost always creating girlish, feminine men (like in FF, for example), yet when a western developer does so, that male character is considered to be the best looking male.



Yes, Fenris looks like a girl. There's nothing wrong with liking that, but really, how is it possible that so many people seem to be obessed with such a feminine looking male? Why do people complain about feminine males in japanese games yet obsess over feminine males in western games?



As for saying "We hardly know anything, how can you say he's feminine, etc" We judge looks more than anything else. Screenshots are more than enough to conclude that Fenris looks like a girl.

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ReveurIngenu wrote...

I find it funny that western people criticize japanese developers for almost always creating girlish, feminine men (like in FF, for example), yet when a western developer does so, that male character is considered to be the best looking male.

Yes, Fenris looks like a girl. There's nothing wrong with liking that, but really, how is it possible that so many people seem to be obessed with such a feminine looking male? Why do people complain about feminine males in japanese games yet obsess over feminine males in western games?


I don't think he looks feminine.

Has the unexplainable magic of subjectivity broken your mind yet?

#1267
scootermcgaffin

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ReveurIngenu wrote...

Fenris looks like a girl.

Have you ever actually seen a girl?

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Fenris looks slightly androgynous, a pretty boy. But he's still an attractive looking male to me though.
And he's kinda cute when he's angry.

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Is there a pic of him on this thread? I saw what the DAO one is from wiki.

Im wondering if he human,

#1270
Eorion_Moonwing

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Fenris is androgynous but thats how elven species look males and females look pretty same way.

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Elves are characteristically more "feminine" in appearance than humans. They're slimmer and have no facial hair, and usually fairly fine features, though that's harder to define objectively. I never actually felt that Zevran was especially effeminate in behavior, but I do think elves are collectively androgynous in DA:O and many other fictional works.




#1272
ReveurIngenu

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I meant he looks like a girl in the sense he looks female. Replace the word "girl" with "female" in my last post.

#1273
scootermcgaffin

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Okay.

Have you ever actually seen a female?

Modifié par scootermcgaffin, 14 février 2011 - 06:19 .


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I just don't want the m/m option to be an evil companion e.g. I have to agree with them that killing is super fun in order to gain approval, like with Zev. I would prefer the bi guy to be human this time but I'm not gonna complain if its Fenris. Mostly because I enjoy his deep manly voice.

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Looks like a guy to me, but what do I know?

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