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[The Lesser Evil]

Oh jay-sus, can we please not go there with Hawke and Carver's brotherly relationship? Because regardless of your views, it's pretty much taboo. Saying  "This one thing isn't as bad as that other thing that's in the game, so this one thing should be in it too" is a really weak argument. There's murder in the game, does that mean that everything that's ethically better or won't be faced with as severe legal repercussions in the real world should be in too?

Hint: it does not.

I'm good with either Anders or Fenris as the M/M option. People might call Fenris... tweenage looking, but I don't agree. He looks Elven, which results in more delicate features and a slimmer build, but he definitely looks like a man. Just an Elven one. Anders... well, I liked him in Awakening, and I liked the spirit that's inside him too. A combination of the two will suit me just fine, unless he goes too emo on me.

[Chris Readman]

^I wouldn't say "tweenage", more like "twink". Meh, not my cup of tea, but it's good to see some people like him.

[elirian_19]

The Lesser Evil wrote...

I'm good with either Anders or Fenris as the M/M option. People might call Fenris... tweenage looking, but I don't agree. He looks Elven, which results in more delicate features and a slimmer build, but he definitely looks like a man. Just an Elven one. Anders... well, I liked him in Awakening, and I liked the spirit that's inside him too. A combination of the two will suit me just fine, unless he goes too emo on me.

Skipping the incest thing because that is a subject I'm not touching with a ten foot pole. But you, my good sir (I'm assuming you're a sir) have made my day. Thank you.

[HopHazzard]

Finis Valorum wrote...

Now Carver is a romance prospect I would be interested in with MHawke, don't much care if it's incest it's not like m/m love can result in pregnancies anyway. Anyway if cannibalism is in I don't see why incest should be out, imho incest is far less worse then cannibalism.

Carver is not a romance prospect, and can we stop talking about it before the thread gets locked?

Modifié par HopHazzard, 17 février 2011 - 02:28 .

[The Lesser Evil]

elirian_19 wrote...

Skipping the incest thing because that is a subject I'm not touching with a ten foot pole. But you, my good sir (I'm assuming you're a sir) have made my day. Thank you.

I am indeed a sir, and you are very welcome.

[KillTheLastRomantic]

I've been asleep, I assume we still don't have any confirmation?

[Finis Valorum]

I wonder if the party banter and NPC interactions are going to on par with Baldurs Gate 2 in that your party members can form couples without you involved as well. If so I can see at least three interesting m/m possibilities Carver/Varric, Carver/Sebastian (dlc) and Varric/Sebastian (dlc).
I hope Bioware is brave enough to attempt something like this because then at least I'll get to watch something beautiful unfold, even if it hurts that my character cannot be a part of it.

Modifié par Finis Valorum, 17 février 2011 - 02:39 .

[The Lesser Evil]

Chris Readman wrote...

^I wouldn't say "tweenage", more like "twink". Meh, not my cup of tea, but it's good to see some people like him.

Those two terms are interchangable, though the latter is pretty much gay slang unlike the former. And yet again, does either really apply to Fenris? He doesn't look young (when compared to say... Carver, or most other Elves we've seen) and he's only missing body hair and facial hair because he's an Elf.

[elirian_19]

Progressive_Stupidity1 wrote...

I've been asleep, I assume we still don't have any confirmation?

We have a whole heap of nothing.

[Finis Valorum]

Carver is not a romance prospect

True enough and neither is any man that's even vaguely attractive, that black Emporium better have some love golem for sale.

Modifié par Finis Valorum, 17 février 2011 - 02:52 .

[HopHazzard]

The Lesser Evil wrote...

Chris Readman wrote...

^I wouldn't say "tweenage", more like "twink". Meh, not my cup of tea, but it's good to see some people like him.

Those two terms are interchangable, though the latter is pretty much gay slang unlike the former. And yet again, does either really apply to Fenris? He doesn't look young (when compared to say... Carver, or most other Elves we've seen) and he's only missing body hair and facial hair because he's an Elf.

"tweenage" refers to adolescents who have not yet entered their teens. "twink" as I've seen it applied tends to refer to adults who look like teenagers (or to actual teenagers), so I don't really think the terms are interchangeable.

That said, I agree with you that Fenris actually looks quite mature as elves go. Something about the face. His features don't have that soft, "unfinished" quality that young men have.

Finis Valorum wrote...

Carver is not a romance prospect

True enough and neither is any man that's even vagualy attractive, that black Emporium better have some love golem for sale.

That's very subjective. I happen to find both male LI's physically attractive. Not sure I want to date an abomination or anything, but physically they're both ok.

Modifié par HopHazzard, 17 février 2011 - 02:49 .

[Dhiro]

Finis Valorum wrote...

Carver is not a romance prospect

True enough and neither is any man that's even vaguely attractive, that black Emporium better have some love golem for sale.

Why Carver needed to be our brother, anyway? *sigh* I think I can give a chance to Anders or, ah, Fenris.

[Chris Readman]

The Lesser Evil wrote...

Chris Readman wrote...

^I wouldn't say "tweenage", more like "twink". Meh, not my cup of tea, but it's good to see some people like him.

Those two terms are interchangable, though the latter is pretty much gay slang unlike the former. And yet again, does either really apply to Fenris? He doesn't look young (when compared to say... Carver, or most other Elves we've seen) and he's only missing body hair and facial hair because he's an Elf.

Isn't "tweenage" a much younger term? Like "twink" can still apply to someone in his twenties, while "tweenage" is basically anything below sixteen or something. Meh, just nitpicking on terms, it's just the stickler in me.

I'd actually place him around Carver's age-group. But that's just the impression I get, maybe I'm just really bad with ages.

[Minxie]

I was reading another thread just now where I followed a link to DG's posts in another thread from 5 months ago, and I found something sorta interesting:

David Gaider wrote...

Considering mages live outside normal culture, they also consider
themselves free of cultural conventions (especially those who were
raised in a Circle from a young age) and thus tend to be quite liberal
in their views.

It's not groundbreaking news (or nothing some of us haven't speculated before on our own), but I just thought this could be a point in Anders' favor regarding whether he's the bi LI or not.

[Finis Valorum]

Dhiro wrote...

Finis Valorum wrote...

Carver is not a romance prospect

True enough and neither is any man that's even vaguely attractive, that black Emporium better have some love golem for sale.

Why Carver needed to be our brother, anyway? *sigh* I think I can give a chance to Anders or, ah, Fenris.

Maybe if Anders wasn't a cannibal lunatic and they hadn't redisigned the elves to look like the fantasies of Japanese businessmen I could too. As it is unless there's and npc m/m Li we don't know about its going to be herioc celibacy in DA2 and hoping for DA3.
Ah well if Isabella still appreciates the female form the f/f romance is at least likely to be quite good.

[Dhiro]

Finis Valorum wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

Finis Valorum wrote...

Carver is not a romance prospect

True enough and neither is any man that's even vaguely attractive, that black Emporium better have some love golem for sale.

Why Carver needed to be our brother, anyway? *sigh* I think I can give a chance to Anders or, ah, Fenris.

Maybe if Anders wasn't a cannibal lunatic and they hadn't redisigned the elves to look like the fantasies of Japanese businessmen I could too. As it is unless there's and npc m/m Li we don't know about its going to be herioc celibacy in DA2 and hoping for DA3.
Ah well if Isabella still appreciates the female form the f/f romance is at least likely to be quite good.

We think very alike, then. Isabela looks someone fun to have around, I want to give her f/f romance a try.

[Erani]

elirian_19 wrote...

Progressive_Stupidity1 wrote...

I've been asleep, I assume we still don't have any confirmation?

We have a whole heap of nothing.

 m/m LI confirmation please! Waaaahh

I'd prefer Fenris, but Ander's "condition" seems interesting enough so...

[The Lesser Evil]

Chris Readman wrote...

Isn't "tweenage" a much younger term? Like "twink" can still apply to someone in his twenties, while "tweenage" is basically anything below sixteen or something. Meh, just nitpicking on terms, it's just the stickler in me.

Not like I am any less nitpicky, heh. I should have phrased my earlier words differently. The two terms ARE different when you take their actual meaning. But when it comes to applying those terms to someone's physical appearance, they're pretty much the same. Whether you look young because you ARE tweenage AND tweenage in appearance, or you're older but look that age anyway (a twink), they both suggest the same about your appearance.

Chris Readman wrote...
I'd actually place him around Carver's age-group. But that's just the impression I get, maybe I'm just really bad with ages.

You're just being misled by Fenris being an Elf, it adds the illusion of youth in most cases.

[Jimmy Fury]

The Lesser Evil wrote...
Those two terms are interchangable, though the latter is pretty much gay slang unlike the former. And yet again, does either really apply to Fenris? He doesn't look young (when compared to say... Carver, or most other Elves we've seen) and he's only missing body hair and facial hair because he's an Elf.

The terms are not interchangable at all. "Tween" refers to an age range while twink refers to a body type. And yes, twink does apply to Fenris. It applies to all elves in DA. They're all thin, hairless faces and bodies, and youthful. I've seen guys in their mid 30's get described as twinks so there's really no age limit as long as you still fit the physical requirements.

-edit for clarification: I should note that I think whoever called Fenris "tweenage" was just plain using the wrong word.-

Modifié par Jimmy Fury, 17 février 2011 - 03:41 .

[Trophonius]

Finis Valorum wrote...

Maybe if Anders wasn't a cannibal lunatic and they hadn't redisigned the elves to look like the fantasies of Japanese businessmen I could too. As it is unless there's and npc m/m Li we don't know about its going to be herioc celibacy in DA2 and hoping for DA3.
Ah well if Isabella still appreciates the female form the f/f romance is at least likely to be quite good.

I'm not really even sure he'd start eating your face, literally, while pursuing a relationship with him. If he's always going to be possessed and crazy, then why would they bother making him an LI at all?

As for the new elves look, I think they just look a little more graceful. Though I admit, Fenris looks like he belongs in the Elezen race in FFXIV.

[HopHazzard]

I think people are making a bigger deal out the cannibal thing than we're meant to. At any rate regardless of his status as m/m love interest, I really hope a big part of Anders' storyline involves getting him unpossessed.

[Blue_Shayde]

*stands around in the happy bubble* I'm still rooting for Fenris. I am really not interested in Anders at all. I personally like the pretty, young, beardless type. (specially if their on the manly side still, which Fenris is, and being pinned to the wall by my mHawke.) but no matter what happens, there will be mods. So since Fenris is romancable, if he's not the Bi I will still get him one day. If Anders is...I guess this will be the first time I avoid romance in DA. Again, just adding my opinion.

I wonder if the demo will let us pursue a romance for a short moment. But then again, i bet its just the first hour of the game's opening, so Fenris and a few other characters probably won't even be in the party. Its probably just the beginning where you help and recruit Isabela.

Modifié par Blue_Shayde, 17 février 2011 - 05:45 .

[Trophonius]

Blue_Shayde wrote...

I wonder if the demo will let us pursue a romance for a short moment. But then again, i bet its just the first hour of the game's opening, so Fenris and a few other characters probably won't even be in the party. Its probably just the beginning where you help and recruit Isabela.

Chris confirmed that the demo shown in the threads isn't the demo we're getting on the 22nd. I think Anders (at least) and Fenris are two of the earlier companions you can recruit so who knows if they'll both make brief appearances? But we'll most likely have to wait until someone actually plays the full game and cares enough to divulge who "he" is.

[dgcatanisiri]

HopHazzard wrote...

I think people are making a bigger deal out the cannibal thing than we're meant to. At any rate regardless of his status as m/m love interest, I really hope a big part of Anders' storyline involves getting him unpossessed.

Much agreed. I mean, geez, it's a line about the taste of blood that splashes into his mouth, not 'hm, I like that. Okay, new favorite drink!' If anything, I read it as savoring the kill, something that I'm sure a spirit of Vengeance would do. It by absolutely no means makes him a 'cannibal.'

And yes, finding a way to free him of Vengeance and return it to Justice would make for a good storyline.

[Akrim_Drak]

Heya ladies and gents. Been forever since I was active around here, good to see a few familiar faces though!

Just wanted to say I'm super excited for DA2. I looooooved the romances in DA:O, even Zevran so either Fenris or Anders(swoons) is exciting to me, both would be amazing. Just having S/S representation is enough for me, I'm easy.

Had a semi-related question though. With the whole possessed Anders thing couldn't you just do what they did with Conner in DA:O? (I'm just getting around to Awakening, bought it on release but gave up because of all the bugs) If it's off-topic can someone PM me? I just think trying to help him cope with what's going on would be super emotionally powerful and I'd love to see that. Here's to hoping all the Anders and Fenris fans get what they want.