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So...Alistair and Leliana?

Débuté par Thalorin1919 , janv. 05 2011 04:51

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Posté 06 janvier 2011 - 08:23

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:lol: well..politics are politics so that notion is discarded and out of consideration. I just thought that she mentioned something about being from Ferelden and working for Lady Cecile or being Orlesian and working for her during the time of the Orlesian occupation, however,  her entire conversation about her past is something I can't remember very well. 


According to Leliana (I had this convo last night during a reply), her mother is Fereldan but Leliana was born in Orlais. She also says she considers herself Fereldan, which I thought a bit odd considering she became a bard, but maybe it's something of her mother's heritage she just didn't want to let go of.


I kinda see it as weird how much she insults/not care about the Fereldans in LS, then she goes off and overemphasis's her heritage in the Origins.

I think she's just trying to find acceptance in a strange land. If your parents are from another country that you've never been to that doesn't make you a native of that country.

I mean it would be weird if I moved to Britian and considered myself an Englishmen if I was born and raised in America.

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Posté 06 janvier 2011 - 11:21

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I dunno i think people from america do it all the time. Half the population seems to consider themselves Irish people even though they were not born in Ireland and in 90% of cases have never set foot there.

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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 03:46

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Moondoggie wrote...

I dunno i think people from america do it all the time. Half the population seems to consider themselves Irish people even though they were not born in Ireland and in 90% of cases have never set foot there.


True. But she's still as much of an Orleasian just as an Irish decendent born in america is American. She was raised with Orleasian ideas and culture (And it shows through her persona.). As well she was born there and lived there until she was an adult. Orlais is still technically her homeland.

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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 04:30

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As to the main topic...maybe. His initial opinion of her is that she's crazy, and I'm not sure that he'd react all that well to her revelations about her past.

That's what I'm thinking.  People talk about how similar they are, but ehhhh... not really.

I agree. Okay, they're both nice people, but beyond that...

If  you bring both Alistair and Leliana to the Circle Tower and show some sympathy to the blood mage who asks for mercy you can get an interesting exchange.

Blood mage: But I...I would like a chance to atone for what I have done. Please, if you spare me I...I could escape and seek penance at the Chantry.
Alistair: You know they'll never take you. Harlots, murderers yees. Malificarum, oh no. (VO notes: Saracastic, a little contemptous of the Chantry)
Leliana: Your comments betray your ignorance,  Alistair. The Chantry accepts all, regardless of what they've done. (A little preachy and sanctimonious) 
Alistair: Well, it seems you're familiar with a whole other Chantry because the one I know wouldn't hesistate to shove a sword of mercy right through her heart. (A little condescending and patronizing)

Given that the blood mage is pleading for her life at their feet and that Leliana (who was once one of those "harlots/murderers" he mentions) is standing right there too his sarcastic comments seem pretty insensitive and come off as judgmental to me (even if he has a point). Alistair clearly doesn't like the chantry, and that's something Leliana is pretty sensitive about.

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Yeah I agree with this. Alistair doesn't seem as merciful as Leliana (he loses approval for bringing Zevran along or letting Jowan run loose.)

Plus, I really don't wanna think about Alistairs reaction to Leliana's past. I facepalm everytime Alistair starts talking about how upset he is over Duncan's death in the human noble origin and then goes "Have you lost anyone close to you recently." and My warden's just like "Uhhh everyone I ever knew or loved was just brutally murdered before my eyes." And then gets worse when he's like "Oh yeah I heard! How stupid of me to forget."
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