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[ziloe]

So, someone else brought this game up in another topic and curiously, I checked it out wanting to pass a little time awaiting DA:2

But, my God... the similarities... minus being a crappier version, it just hurts. I'd love to hear what the developers have to say, because apparently they have rivals. XD

Modifié par ziloe, 06 janvier 2011 - 12:38 .

[ziloe]

No comments at all, really? D:

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Other than it looks nothing like DA? No.



Looks like an old rpg back when they were learning the joys of 3D toons.

[Realranger55]

I dunno, I just watched the video on steam and gotta agree that it does seem to have quite a bit of similarities. Almost reminded me of Nwn 2 as far as setting and graphics. Looks to have a similar combat system as well, what with the group based combat with the pause function.

If there weren't so many good games coming out to occupy my time I may have even given it a shot just to see.

[ziloe]

Realranger55 wrote...

I dunno, I just watched the video on steam and gotta agree that it does seem to have quite a bit of similarities. Almost reminded me of Nwn 2 as far as setting and graphics. Looks to have a similar combat system as well, what with the group based combat with the pause function.
If there weren't so many good games coming out to occupy my time I may have even given it a shot just to see.

I'm glad someone else sees what I'm saying too, especially the part of the combat system. The only difference appears that it's a lot slower and there appears to be a wait time.

[Realranger55]

Yah, I dunno if you played the Nwn series but the combat looks just like it. They were pen and paper based games, the combat looked very similar to that of Drakensang which also appears to be derived from a pen and paper game in Germany.

[Realranger55]

Nice, thanks for the info. I dunno some day when I'm bored I may end up grabbing it off steam just to check it out.

[Last Darkness]

Drakensang came out a year before Dragon Age.

[ziloe]

Last Darkness wrote...

Drakensang came out a year before Dragon Age.

How does that make any difference? Dragon Age was still previewed the years before its actual release. The battle system's hub is practically the same thing, just flipped. =/

[Seagloom]

I own the first game and have to agree it is closer to "Neverwinter Nights 2" than Origins. The main similarity between Drakensang and Origins is party based combat. Drakensang, however, has a much more complex rules system under the hood. Like D&D, you cannot jump into it and expect an easy time. In contrast Origins is very easy to grasp on without learning the nuts and bolts of each of its systems. That helps if you want to powerbuild a character, but is hardly necessary to finish the game.



The learning curve in Drakensang is steep enough that I know two people who essentially dropped it because of that. Visually, I prefer Drakensang but graphically it does not look as good as Origins. I just like the art direction more. Origins was very drab; whereas Drakensang looks like someone pulled it out of a storybook. I also like how combat is more lethal, shields are much more useful than in many other games, and magic feels special.



tl;dr - It is closer to NWN2. Origins has superior graphics, is far more character driven, and less complex mechanically. It is different enough that I do not consider the games similar.

[HoonDing]

Fuinris wrote...

In Drakensang and the stand alone expansion/sequel "The River of Time" the most awesome spell is a fireball.

I like how Drakensang features an "open lock" spell (Foramen Foraminor) and spells to calm/dominate animals. Turning enemies into stone is also entertaining.

Drakensang is the successor to the Realms of Arkania trilogy, which featured even more awesome spells that allowed the mage to look through walls, read minds, turn people into toadstools, etc.

Modifié par virumor, 09 janvier 2011 - 12:02 .

[Last Darkness]

ziloe wrote...

Last Darkness wrote...

Drakensang came out a year before Dragon Age.

How does that make any difference? Dragon Age was still previewed the years before its actual release. The battle system's hub is practically the same thing, just flipped. =/

Whats your point?  using that criteria half the MMO's and a few other single player games fill that same description.

[Addai]

ziloe wrote...

So, someone else brought this game up in another topic and curiously, I checked it out wanting to pass a little time awaiting DA:2

But, my God... the similarities... minus being a crappier version, it just hurts. I'd love to hear what the developers have to say, because apparently they have rivals. XD

(Husband)

I bought  that game 10 months ago, after reading good reviews on it.   Not really impressed by it.   In graphics and annimations its about on par with Nevrwinter Nights 2.   In terms of the game, its more or less generic high fantasy universe.   The only thing unique about it, from what I can tell its a bit more light hearted in its tone than most games.

[PaulSX]

more like German NWN2

[casadechrisso]

If one game is the "newbie" on the market, it's Dragon Age. Drakensang compares indeed more to NWN2, first because of the Pen and Paper Background, second because of the game history. The Dark Eye P&P game is even more famous than Dungeon and Dragons in Germany, and Drakensang is, like NWN2, not the first CPRG based on the ruleset, there have already been some in the 90s. It even won quite a few awards in Germany and got very high ratings, but if you like it or not won't matter anymore, the studio was closed and the name will only be used for a cheap browsergame anymore, without the ruleset. Actually quite sad for the german games industry.

[Gecon]

I am utterly confused how a game that was released BEFORE another game is supposed to be a "ripoff" of the later.

[Faelix_Majere]

The whole mechanics of these fantasy based, party evolving, games are just as much a genre as RTS and Star Craft and FPS and CoD.



The only difference is that this genre was very popular in the infancy of PC-gaming, then were almost forgotten for a length of years. More or less untill they were revived with the Baldurs Gate series and it's immediate predecesors.

[Basher of Glory]

If one wants to play games of the "Das schwarze Auge"-universe seriously, it is inevitable to learn the rules, which are even more complex than AD&D.

Unfortunately "Drakensang" and the sequel were made "light" for starters. This annoyed many "old" fans of the P&P-faction as well as "old" players of the "Nordland Trilogie" (Realms of Arcania), which was a surprise success in the US as well.

Nevertheless, it's a good RPG, especially for people who love to deal with rules behind every move and any action a character performs.

The developers released some patches and even a high def package to boost the grafical performance.

I can recommend the game without any constraint, which is - in addition - available for a very reasonable price these days.

Modifié par Baher of Glory, 16 février 2011 - 08:50 .

[antigravitycat]

ziloe wrote...

So, someone else brought this game up in another topic and curiously, I checked it out wanting to pass a little time awaiting DA:2

But, my God... the similarities... minus being a crappier version, it just hurts. I'd love to hear what the developers have to say, because apparently they have rivals. XD

Heh, it seems you are refferring to me, I mentioned it here http://social.biowar...28214/1#5936944 before. You can read there what I think of Drakensang and why I would recommend it. The similarities to Dragon Age are there, but it is not a simple copy, neither do I think it was inspired by it. And it was there before DA.
Fuinris and Seagloom already posted some good info on Drakensang up there.

I'd like to add that the graphics may not be as good as DA, but the locations and environments are designed so well, I love it. The cities, markets, farms, countryside, superb design and extremely picturesque. The whole atmosphere is great. You could describe it like walking through a medieval fairytale. And that is DA's weak point imho. I was very disappointed with the levels and design of the environments in DA - generic, dull, lacking atmosphere in comparison to Drakensang.
Both games have weak and strong points. While I love DA, I also recommend Drakensang although it may not be as great as DA.

[Basher of Glory]

If the game's name would have been "Wolfsang", nobody would even think about similarities. 

To compare the grafics...
If DA:O has 100, then DS has 95, after the hi res package is applied.

Modifié par Baher of Glory, 16 février 2011 - 07:18 .

[antigravitycat]

Baher of Glory wrote...

If the game's name would have been "Wolfsang", nobody would even think about similarities. 

To compare the grafics...
If DA:O has 100, then DS has 95, after the hi res package is applied.

Jo dat stümmt (very much agreed)! But what hi rez package are you talking about? For Dragon Age or Drakensang?

[Basher of Glory]

For Drakensang.

http://www.dsa-drake...lfile&fileid=19

It can be applied after installing patch 1.02

Modifié par Baher of Glory, 17 février 2011 - 05:41 .

[antigravitycat]

Baher of Glory wrote...

For Drakensang.

http://www.dsa-drake...lfile&fileid=19

It can be applied after installing patch 1.02

Thank you!