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[Demx]

imported_beer wrote...

arafinwe_ingalaure wrote...
Oh yeah, so Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great were all *women* of course.  I bet George Washington was a woman in disguise.  LOL, maybe they should try to use their brain a little more and discover things they could like....

Of course. Unless it was a full frontal assault with a sizeable, impressive 2 H weapon thrust out, and you did it wearing nothing but leather underpants and a cape= it was totally unmanly. SO THERE!!!

Reminds me of 300 in a way.

[arafinwe_ingalaure]

imported_beer wrote...

arafinwe_ingalaure wrote...
Oh yeah, so Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great were all *women* of course.  I bet George Washington was a woman in disguise.  LOL, maybe they should try to use their brain a little more and discover things they could like....

Of course. Unless it was a full frontal assault with a sizeable, impressive 2 H weapon thrust out, and you did it wearing nothing but leather underpants and a cape= it was totally unmanly. SO THERE!!!

So true, men don't think, they only rushes to combat to kill.  That's what movie is teaching them.  Do not think, drink bear, chase women, say stupid one liners after killing someone.  If they start about thinking, they will loose all their manliness.

Siradix wrote...

imported_beer wrote...

arafinwe_ingalaure wrote...
Oh yeah, so Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great were all *women* of course.  I bet George Washington was a woman in disguise.  LOL, maybe they should try to use their brain a little more and discover things they could like....

Of course. Unless it was a full frontal assault with a sizeable, impressive 2 H weapon thrust out, and you did it wearing nothing but leather underpants and a cape= it was totally unmanly. SO THERE!!!

Reminds me of 300 in a way.

Arafinwe approves +100 

That's an image that some movies and games are trying to brain wash people with it.  Just look how Kratos is a bad character, only pisseof and violent.  Treat women like objects.  At least there are some puzzles in the game, but it's not enough.

Modifié par arafinwe_ingalaure, 06 janvier 2011 - 11:42 .

[Mercuron]

Not to get away from the main topic, but I hope the OP wiped down the counter afterward.

[arafinwe_ingalaure]

imported_beer wrote...

Siradix wrote...
Reminds me of 300 in a way.

Now that was MANLY  because a majority of the movie involved a group of semi clad, buff men traveling together, fighting together, bonding and carrying large weapons!!! When that one dude leaps into the sky and gives that gold lame bikini clad foreign dude a nick in the cheek before he gets skewered by arrows. THAT is profoundly heroic. He knows he is going to die, but he still gives that dude a scab!

Now in Dragon Age where chicks fight with you- totally unmanly. Chicks are just supposed to be wearing white transparent robes doing crazy dances (ala oracle) or there only to smecks Mike Hawke. 



 

Don't forget that they must serves him as a god and only do what he wants. 

[Demx]

imported_beer wrote...

Siradix wrote...
Reminds me of 300 in a way.

Now that was MANLY  because a majority of the movie involved a group of semi clad, buff men traveling together, fighting together, bonding and carrying large weapons!!! When that one dude leaps into the sky and gives that gold lame bikini clad foreign dude a nick in the cheek before he gets skewered by arrows. THAT is profoundly heroic. He knows he is going to die, but he still gives that dude a scab!

Now in Dragon Age where chicks fight with you- totally unmanly. Chicks are just supposed to be wearing white transparent robes doing crazy dances (ala oracle) or there only to smecks Mike Hawke. 



 

Good thing we have modders to add some manliness back into the game.

[Silver Direwolf]

Nah, the lesbians didn't make the game manly. Seducing Desire Demons made the game manly!

But interesting post by OP!

[EclipticOlive54]

Stanley Woo wrote...

i like to think that our gamers appeal to the story-lover in all of us. We write darned good stories and darned good characters, and when you're playing a game as big and immersive and full of stuff as BioWare games are, you want awesome characters to see you through it all. You want the Hollywood moments, you want the adrenaline and satisfaction of kicking butt and taking names, you want the feeling of being in control of the PC's destiny. Escapist entertainment, gotta love it, no matter who you are.

*nods in agreement*

[slimgrin]

David Gaider wrote...

The Estrogen Brigade ™ is alive and well on the dev team. There are, in fact, more women than men writing it

^ Well, op, there's your answer.

Also, I do feel the emphasis on romance in Bioware's games is indeed a big draw for female gamers, just like over the top visceral combat in God of War is perhaps more appealing to male gamers.

[arafinwe_ingalaure]

imported_beer wrote...

arafinwe_ingalaure wrote...Don't forget that they must serves him as a god and only do what he wants. 

But woe if they service anyone else, for then they are skanks.

Now seriously, these forums I see mature, thoughtful, intelligent men whose opinions I may not agree with, but who seem to come from a place of reason and logic.

Then I see some that I have no idea...where they come from. I suspect the OP met one of the latter. They exists. There are many crazy women too who think women who play any video games secretly wish they were men and if they were real girls, they'd be swooning over Jacob/Edward.

True, it's not only men.  It's an education problems.  Fundementalist wants a static society were nothing is changing and everything is white or black.  It's easier to control people that way.  Maybe that guy the OP met was comming from a familly where appearance means everything, even if it will make them unhappy.  Fundamentalist like to make feel guilty the people with their strict ideology.  Women should love pink color, Men should like blue color.  Boys should play with cars and girls with dolls.  Men should not show any emotions while women should. 

Modifié par arafinwe_ingalaure, 07 janvier 2011 - 12:17 .

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David Gaider wrote...

to deliberately insert female-oriented content.

snicker, snicker /immature

[JoltDealer]

That dude was a dick. That majority of the male population is what give the rest of us a bad name.

[_Aine_]

imported_beer wrote...

Then I see some that I have no idea...where they come from. I suspect the OP met one of the latter. They exists. There are many crazy women too who think women who play any video games secretly wish they were men and if they were real girls, they'd be swooning over Jacob/Edward.

I totally admit, I got the Twilight book for a christmas gift.  Stayed up until 4am one night reading up to page 286. lol The tension was delicious! I admit it, I was moderately swooning.

Never fear though, I got over it the next day playing Call of Duty Black Ops.  

It was THAT close.  

But as Oscar Wilde so aptly said:  “This suspense is terrible. I hope it will last.”

Modifié par shantisands, 07 janvier 2011 - 12:16 .

[arafinwe_ingalaure]

bullion-rouge wrote...

O manliness, have you noticed how every male romanceable designed to appeal to women- as in physically attractive, loving etc is so strongly loathed by a subsection of the male forumite population. And always as lame, unmanly, or whiny.

Wait until the romanceables in DA2 are revealed. You will have a ****storm. A MANLY ****storm.

LOL, true.  But of course, those were designed for female gamers, which isn't a bad thing.  But if you look at Morrigan's clothing, she wasn't design to appeal specificly for women.  So my guess is that those choices were quite fair.  And again some women would jump on the barricade because she was over-sexualizedé  But I wouldn't say that it is impossible to make a character that is appealing to both gender.  I think that games like "Uncharted" did right.  Nathan Drake is a character likeable by both women and men and Elena Fisher was likeable by both women and men too.  It's a good balance without falling in too much strerotypes like a female lead has to be very sexy and must be saved by the male lead.  Again Nathan Drake isn't a total brute 'à la Gears Of War' that can be charming to the ladies and kicking ass to please the male players.  Maybe Bioware should try to balance it more so will have less complains.

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arafinwe_ingalaure wrote...

imported_beer wrote...

arafinwe_ingalaure wrote...Don't forget that they must serves him as a god and only do what he wants. 

But woe if they service anyone else, for then they are skanks.

Now seriously, these forums I see mature, thoughtful, intelligent men whose opinions I may not agree with, but who seem to come from a place of reason and logic.

Then I see some that I have no idea...where they come from. I suspect the OP met one of the latter. They exists. There are many crazy women too who think women who play any video games secretly wish they were men and if they were real girls, they'd be swooning over Jacob/Edward.

True, it's not only men.  It's an education problems.  Fundementalist wants a static society were nothing is changing and everything is white or black.  It's easier to control people that way.  Maybe that guy the OP met was comming from a familly where appearance means everything, even if it will make them unhappy.  Fundamentalist like to make feel guilty the people with their strict ideology.  Women should love pink color, Men should like blue color.  Boys should play with cars and girls with dolls.  Men should now show any emotions while women should. 

Lol wow really?

I think you guys missed the OP's point. That someone thought Dragonage was girly. 

[arafinwe_ingalaure]

shantisands wrote...

imported_beer wrote...

Then I see some that I have no idea...where they come from. I suspect the OP met one of the latter. They exists. There are many crazy women too who think women who play any video games secretly wish they were men and if they were real girls, they'd be swooning over Jacob/Edward.

I totally admit, I got the Twilight book for a christmas gift.  Stayed up until 4am one night reading up to page 286. lol The tension was delicious! I admit it, I was moderately swooning.

Never fear though, I got over it the next day playing Call of Duty Black Ops.  

It was THAT close.  

But as Oscar Wilde so aptly said:  “This suspense is terrible. I hope it will last.”

But it's totally fine that you like Twillight,  You should be free of liking what you want.  The problem would exists if somebody told you that you *must* like twlight because you are female.  I must admit I don't like Twillight and I feel very girly.

[Cobrawar]

imported_beer wrote...

arafinwe_ingalaure wrote....  Women should love pink color, Men should like blue color.  Boys should play with cars and girls with dolls.  Men should now show any emotions while women should. 

I don't know about *Fundamentalists* but I think somewhere along the way, these traits got very narrowly defined.

Showing casual interest in your sister's busty barbie dolls is girly. But playing with buff male dolls called GI joes is super manly?

Playing a game where you romance HOT BABES like Leliana and Morirgan is girly, but walking around as a muscular bald dude killing monsters with dangling testicles is super manly?

I just don't get it. Somewhere along the way, things got seriously messed up.

 this made me laugh

[Follow Me on Twitter]

Having to worry about if your Li really "likes you" should be the least of your worries when you're trying to save your country from a horde of darkspawn, dont you think so?



"The world is in danger, i think i'll give Alistair this gift and see if he likes it" Lol -rolls eyes- Okaaaaay.

[arafinwe_ingalaure]

Follow Me on Twitter wrote...

arafinwe_ingalaure wrote...

imported_beer wrote...

arafinwe_ingalaure wrote...Don't forget that they must serves him as a god and only do what he wants. 

But woe if they service anyone else, for then they are skanks.

Now seriously, these forums I see mature, thoughtful, intelligent men whose opinions I may not agree with, but who seem to come from a place of reason and logic.

Then I see some that I have no idea...where they come from. I suspect the OP met one of the latter. They exists. There are many crazy women too who think women who play any video games secretly wish they were men and if they were real girls, they'd be swooning over Jacob/Edward.

True, it's not only men.  It's an education problems.  Fundementalist wants a static society were nothing is changing and everything is white or black.  It's easier to control people that way.  Maybe that guy the OP met was comming from a familly where appearance means everything, even if it will make them unhappy.  Fundamentalist like to make feel guilty the people with their strict ideology.  Women should love pink color, Men should like blue color.  Boys should play with cars and girls with dolls.  Men should now show any emotions while women should. 

Lol wow really?

I think you guys missed the OP's point. That someone thought Dragonage was girly. 

No, I have not, it's precisely what I was talking about in several posts.  He tought that Dragon Age is a girly game because the people around him made him think that romance is only a girl thing, and playing a game like that would mean that he is gay.