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Is it too much to ask for a happy ending?


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Suicidal paragade.

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FredThePhoenix wrote...

Come to think of it, I wonder if there will be endings depending if you are male or female.

Same if you are paragon or renegade.

i bet they will Love interest and loyalty will play a part as well maybe?

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JACKFTW wrote...

FredThePhoenix wrote...

Come to think of it, I wonder if there will be endings depending if you are male or female.

Same if you are paragon or renegade.

i bet they will Love interest and loyalty will play a part as well maybe?


Hells yes - something like in my yellow sig?  (and if you go to top of page 6, Fiery points out a quote from Thane that fits with that theme).  And after everything has "flashed to white" after "turning the key" , I think there should be an epilogue, set a reasonable amount of time after (I don't know how much), which reveals whether or not (s)he survives (just like ME2).

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When I defeated the arch deamon. After all of this political bull**** in Dragon Age, and all of my hard work to try and get the country into some semblance of coherence. I am not going to throw it back to the wolves after the bear has been slain. I suspect if there is more to gain by me being the one to sacrifice myself then sure I will. When I stabbed the arch demon it was just me and him as I knew it should be. I knew then I wasn't going to return.



Now if it's a needless or pointless sacrifice in ME3 then no. **** no, but if there is some benefit sure.

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What forums have you been reading?Last i checked everyone wants a happy ending with their LIs.

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thatbwoyblu wrote...

What forums have you been reading?Last i checked everyone wants a happy ending with their LIs.


dunno, I have seen alot of people who want the ultimate sacrafice ending. That all I'm saying. Posted Image

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thatbwoyblu wrote...

What forums have you been reading?Last i checked everyone wants a happy ending with their LIs.


Is that directed at me?  If so, you didn't read the post in my sig thoroughly.

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As for the ultimate sacrifice, if it happenes, I believe you shouldn't see the ending beyond it. You are dead, after all.

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I also want multiple endings - from happy one (for me) to ulitmate sacrifice for whoever wants that. All should be possible and would be viable. Yes, even the happy one, You can play Shepard as a super space marine. ;)



I don't think, that joining the Reapers and "enjoying" the destruction of all organic life would make any sense, though. Or only, if Shepard was indoctrinated and so effectively lost.



Renegade Shep is just as dead set against the Reapers as Paragon Shep. I think a "Happy Ending" for Renegade Shep could be the defeat of the Reapers and the following domination of the galaxy by Cerberus (under the leadership of Shepard) or something to that effect.

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As for the ultimate sacrifice, if it happenes, I believe you shouldn't see the ending beyond it. You are dead, after all.


As in just have the game go black and then... nothing?  Just roll credits??  I think that would way too abrupt and they should definitely have an epilogue :/   While I think it's important that Shepard do the last part of the final mission on her own - and that it be a physically and emotionally harrowing experience - I think after that scene reaches a climax, that there should be a number of potential epilogues (one where Shepard survives, one where (s)he doesn't, and one where no one knows, and are left speculating)

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xentar wrote...

As for the ultimate sacrifice, if it happenes, I believe you shouldn't see the ending beyond it. You are dead, after all.



I don't know about that. Imagine, what if the ending to the game would just be a bulkhead coming towards Shepard's face and *BOOM everything goes black*   *Roll Credits*  Almost as lame as the sopranos ending.

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I'm only going to say this once. *Cough Cough* Clears throat. Copy the endings of classic Nintendo games such as Zelda or even Kotor. I would be highly pissed if I get a ending page like Jade Empire or Dragon Age that is just a wall of text. I want a happy ending and see the lives the characters live after the they defend the Galaxy one last time before/while/after the ending credits roll. I want to be reduced to a fountain of Happy Tears! End rant! :D

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xentar wrote...

As for the ultimate sacrifice, if it happenes, I believe you shouldn't see the ending beyond it. You are dead, after all.


Third person omniscient cutscenes are used regularly in ME1 and 2. It would be well within established style to show the player what happens after an ultimate sacrifice ending.

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Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

xentar wrote...

As for the ultimate sacrifice, if it happenes, I believe you shouldn't see the ending beyond it. You are dead, after all.


Third person omniscient cutscenes are used regularly in ME1 and 2. It would be well within established style to show the player what happens after an ultimate sacrifice ending.


Exactly - end of that debate I think!

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AwesomeName wrote...

xentar wrote...

As for the ultimate sacrifice, if it happenes, I believe you shouldn't see the ending beyond it. You are dead, after all.


As in just have the game go black and then... nothing?  Just roll credits??  I think that would way too abrupt and they should definitely have an epilogue :/   While I think it's important that Shepard do the last part of the final mission on her own - and that it be a physically and emotionally harrowing experience - I think after that scene reaches a climax, that there should be a number of potential epilogues (one where Shepard survives, one where (s)he doesn't, and one where no one knows, and are left speculating)


More or less. You play as Shepard and to see how things develop in the future (i. e. epilogue) Shepard has to be alive (until scientifically proven otherwise). Isn't it the whole point of the ultimate sacrifice? You kill yourself to give whoever you wish a certain chance but knowing that you are never going to see them again. All you have is hope for the best. I think this way players who wish for ultimate sacrifice will get exactly what they asked for.

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"More or less. You play as Shepard and to see how things develop in the future (i. e. epilogue) Shepard has to be alive (until scientifically proven otherwise)"



Not really.... See Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams' post... Shepard didn't psychically see Saren and Benezia's conversation did she? Or a whole bunch of cutscenes that happen beyond Shepard's awareness.

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xentar wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

xentar wrote...

As for the ultimate sacrifice, if it happenes, I believe you shouldn't see the ending beyond it. You are dead, after all.


As in just have the game go black and then... nothing?  Just roll credits??  I think that would way too abrupt and they should definitely have an epilogue :/   While I think it's important that Shepard do the last part of the final mission on her own - and that it be a physically and emotionally harrowing experience - I think after that scene reaches a climax, that there should be a number of potential epilogues (one where Shepard survives, one where (s)he doesn't, and one where no one knows, and are left speculating)


More or less. You play as Shepard and to see how things develop in the future (i. e. epilogue) Shepard has to be alive (until scientifically proven otherwise). Isn't it the whole point of the ultimate sacrifice? You kill yourself to give whoever you wish a certain chance but knowing that you are never going to see them again. All you have is hope for the best. I think this way players who wish for ultimate sacrifice will get exactly what they asked for.




I don't know, just seems a bit Anti Climatic.

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Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

xentar wrote...

As for the ultimate sacrifice, if it happenes, I believe you shouldn't see the ending beyond it. You are dead, after all.


Third person omniscient cutscenes are used regularly in ME1 and 2. It would be well within established style to show the player what happens after an ultimate sacrifice ending.


I admit, this is something I dislike about the game. Now, if we actually played as a reaper guiding the Shepard avatar, this would have made some sense.

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What do you mean by "make sense" - The game was never meant to be 1st person 100% of the time, ala Half-life. That's just not the way they've chosen to tell this story. At the very beginning you hear a conversation between 3 men that is obviously unbeknownst to Shepard, so it's been clear since then that they've chosen this type of storytelling structure.

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xentar wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

xentar wrote...

As for the ultimate sacrifice, if it happenes, I believe you shouldn't see the ending beyond it. You are dead, after all.


Third person omniscient cutscenes are used regularly in ME1 and 2. It would be well within established style to show the player what happens after an ultimate sacrifice ending.


I admit, this is something I dislike about the game. Now, if we actually played as a reaper guiding the Shepard avatar, this would have made some sense.



Wait, are you suggesting that Mass Effect should be in first person?

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Cheesy Blue wrote...

xentar wrote...

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As for the ultimate sacrifice, if it happenes, I believe you shouldn't see the ending beyond it. You are dead, after all.


Third person omniscient cutscenes are used regularly in ME1 and 2. It would be well within established style to show the player what happens after an ultimate sacrifice ending.


I admit, this is something I dislike about the game. Now, if we actually played as a reaper guiding the Shepard avatar, this would have made some sense.



Wait, are you suggesting that Mass Effect should be in first person?


That would be a bit too much to suggest for a game that never was supposed to be. Just voicing some thoughts here that the game can sometimes be a bit too detached from Shepard despite being allegedly centered on this character.

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It is centered on Shepard - that doesn't mean the narrative has to be on Shepard 100% of the time like Half-life (which was a very unique thing when that game came out). Mass Effect never tried to be like that though - that's clear literally from the start.

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xentar wrote...

Cheesy Blue wrote...

xentar wrote...

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xentar wrote...

As for the ultimate sacrifice, if it happenes, I believe you shouldn't see the ending beyond it. You are dead, after all.


Third person omniscient cutscenes are used regularly in ME1 and 2. It would be well within established style to show the player what happens after an ultimate sacrifice ending.


I admit, this is something I dislike about the game. Now, if we actually played as a reaper guiding the Shepard avatar, this would have made some sense.



Wait, are you suggesting that Mass Effect should be in first person?


That would be a bit too much to suggest for a game that never was supposed to be. Just voicing some thoughts here that the game can sometimes be a bit too detached from Shepard despite being allegedly centered on this character.




hmm, I see where your coming from but I prefer the more movie like quality of Mass Effect's cut scenes. Anyway I'm tired goin to bed. Night all nice meeting you Posted Image

Modifié par Cheesy Blue, 07 janvier 2011 - 07:25 .


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I'm sure there will be multiple endings, one of which will be happy. If the only ending was an ultimate sacrifice then that would put a serious dent in the replay appeal for me.

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I think the ending's mood should be a variable. So depending on your choices, you either have a happy ending or an unhappy ending.

Modifié par Ja5ck, 07 janvier 2011 - 07:31 .