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"Feros: Colony Gone" ...when it's clearly not


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Dreggon

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So I just completed the Feros mission on my second playthrough. I Renegaded Jeong to save the colony, I left one colonist alive (I don't know who, but they only lived because I couldn't find them) and I saved Shiala for my Mass Effect 2 playthrough. I also did all four missions beforehand.

After saving Shaila, Lizbeth and her mother told me that the colony had been lost. However:
  • There are a large number of refugees standing around who make reference to the colony still being alive, saying they fought for it, etc. etc. Unless these are the refugees at the ExoGeni base who wandered down to the colony...
  • Jeong tells me he "won't renege on our deal". I thought this guy, as well as Shiala and the four missions I did, plus the sole living colonist, would be enough to keep it alive.
Quite confused here, as it seems I should be getting a living colony.

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Slayer299

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Are the refugees from where you find Jeong and Lizbeth because if you wipe out the colonists of Zhu's Hope you lose the people who helped keep the colony running and the people from Exogeni don't have the skills to keep Zhu's Hope a viable colony. At least that's my understanding of that situation.

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Mr Zoat

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They're probably telling what you want to hear because they are terrified of you. As soon as the Normandy departs they'll be like "Quick, lets get out of here before he comes back!"

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Dreggon

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Mr Zoat wrote...

They're probably telling what you want to hear because they are terrified of you. As soon as the Normandy departs they'll be like "Quick, lets get out of here before he comes back!"


But... they're NOT telling me what I want to hear! I want the colony to survive, despite me brutally and deliberately murdering all the colonists I could find! The only guy who survived was the salarian shop owner, and I am 100% sure that I shotgunned him.

Seriously. He was shooting at me, I shotgunned him, he fell down. I shotgunned him again, HE DIED. Then he lived.

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didymos1120

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If you kill off too many colonists, the colony fails. Period. Why? Because you killed off all the people who were keeping it running. It's a pretty simple cause->effect relationship.

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Fiery Phoenix

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There is a limit to the number of colonists dead / alive that determines the colony's ultimate fate. Essentially, as Didy said above, if you kill too many (+50%) rather than using the non-lethal gas grenade against them, the colony will fail, even if there are still some colonists standing around. Killing one or two is fine, but once you've gone anywhere past the limit (which I believe is 6), you drop the ball.

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Kindlehaven

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Sorry to bump this up, but I killed every colonist that I could and, I believe, got the counter to 0. The only people left alive on that planet were the ones with Jeong etc. However, when I get back there, everyone is telling me how great it is that the colony is working. None of the named NPCs are there except Jeong, the mom, the daughter, and the guy with the data quest. So what gives?

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expwnit

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social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/104/index/4630034

Quething wrote...

Points needed to save Feros: 13
-> Each colonist is worth 1 point
-> Each completed sidequest is worth 1 point
-> Convincing Jeong is worth 12 points
-> Sparing Shiala is worth 5 points
-> Shiala and Jeong overlap

So, if you kill Jeong and Shiala, you need to spare 13 colonists, or 9 colonists plus do 4 sidequests, or 11 plus 2 sidequests, etc etc. I've tried various combinations of these and it always works out to a 13 point cutoff, they're apparently interchangable.

If you spare Jeong, you only need 1 sidequest, or 1 colonist.
If you spare Shiala, you need 8 colonists, or 5 colonists and 3 sidequests, etc etc.

If you spare Jeong and Shiala, though, they overlap rather than add to each other, so you still only have 12 points, so you still need to save at least one colonist or do at least one sidequest or Feros will die.

I have not been able to reproduce any kind of run where Jeong lives, any colonist lives, and Feros dies.

 

So all it takes to keep Feros going is to not kill Jeong and do a sidequest, really. I assume what made you save the colony was early sidequests.

Modifié par expwnit, 23 janvier 2011 - 10:21 .