Herve81 wrote...
Please see my post above. The thread ask how can the reapers be stopped. This seems the most plausible to me. Also, check out the youtube vid i posted. It's pretty clear cut wouldn't you say?
Modifié par JoeLaTurkey, 10 janvier 2011 - 12:11 .
If dark energy does end up playing a part, you could hardly accuse it of swooping down at the last minute out of nowhere when it was introduced halfway through the story.
Dark energy is a natural part of the universe. Its like claiming matter or energy will play a part in the destruction of the Reapers. How it is used is still dues ex machina.Val Seleznyov wrote...
I think that a lot of you are misusing the term "deus ex machina".
If dark energy does end up playing a part, you could hardly accuse it of swooping down at the last minute out of nowhere when it was introduced halfway through the story.
adam_grif wrote...
If dark energy does end up playing a part, you could hardly accuse it of swooping down at the last minute out of nowhere when it was introduced halfway through the story.
Yes we can, unless somebody explains how exactly it could be used to stop them.
veetor mentioned it when he was scanning the collectors.Val Seleznyov wrote...
adam_grif wrote...
If dark energy does end up playing a part, you could hardly accuse it of swooping down at the last minute out of nowhere when it was introduced halfway through the story.
Yes we can, unless somebody explains how exactly it could be used to stop them.
You think that you can accuse something of being unexpectedly introduced at the last minute, when it was introduced halfway through the story?
Nevermind the fact that dark energy was introduced in such a way as to always appear likely to play some part in the Reaper's demise.
Even if they don't explain exactly how it's used, at this point it will just be a poorly written ending, not a deus ex machina.
Modifié par Jonn Lm, 10 janvier 2011 - 12:41 .
BiancoAngelo7 wrote...
At the end of ME3 all the reapers will be winning, and just as Harbinger or whoever else is about to kill Shepard ...
Morgan Freeman's voice comes up and talks about how little cells present on the earth make all the super advanced aliens sick and they all grey up and die.
Then Shep goes to visit his ex wife with his extremely annoying anorexic kids.
War of the Worlds! Am I too late!!!?
...
-.-
Bonus points to anyone who gets the movie reference.
Modifié par Pwner1323, 10 janvier 2011 - 12:52 .
Vaenier wrote...
Dark energy is a natural part of the universe. Its like claiming matter or energy will play a part in the destruction of the Reapers. How it is used is still dues ex machina.Val Seleznyov wrote...
I think that a lot of you are misusing the term "deus ex machina".
If dark energy does end up playing a part, you could hardly accuse it of swooping down at the last minute out of nowhere when it was introduced halfway through the story.
008Zulu wrote...
Herve81 wrote...
Please see my post above. The thread ask how can the reapers be stopped. This seems the most plausible to me. Also, check out the youtube vid i posted. It's pretty clear cut wouldn't you say?
No, it isn't. Not once in the video does it show (visually) the weapon being recovered. Tim just said it was, the term weapon can be applied to anything that causes damage; as in a gun is a weapon, but so is the bullet it fires.
Your logic means that dues ex machina does not exist, because the harnessing of matter and energy is not unexpected and not mentioned prior to its use...Val Seleznyov wrote...
Vaenier wrote...
Dark energy is a natural part of the universe. Its like claiming matter or energy will play a part in the destruction of the Reapers. How it is used is still dues ex machina.Val Seleznyov wrote...
I think that a lot of you are misusing the term "deus ex machina".
If dark energy does end up playing a part, you could hardly accuse it of swooping down at the last minute out of nowhere when it was introduced halfway through the story.
Not exactly. The reason that dark energy is being touted as a possible solution to the Reaper problem is the effect that it had on Tali's star. This is a sufficient introduction of the concept, so that if this energy is to somehow be harnessed it wouldn't be considered an unexpected and sudden solution to an insoluble problem.
Deus ex machina doesn't mean "i don't find it personally satisfying".
Modifié par N7 , 10 janvier 2011 - 12:57 .
Vaenier wrote...
Your logic means that dues ex machina does not exist, because the harnessing of matter and energy is not unexpected and not mentioned prior to its use...
If dark energy means its not dues ex machina, regular energy means it is also not dues ex machina...
Modifié par Val Seleznyov, 10 janvier 2011 - 01:02 .
N7 wrote...
defete
Pwner1323 wrote...
N7 wrote...
defete
Well there's a new word I've never seen before anywhere. Looks latin.
Herve81 wrote...
Kristofer1 wrote...
Cerberus found that weapon that took out the derelict reaper. I am sure that will come into play.
THIS. Having just played the mission also the Illusive Man confirms in the dialogue that this weapon has been recovered by Cerberus and is being researched.
FYI:-
At some point, Cerberus
discovered the Derelict Reaper and dispatched a research team led by a
Dr. Chandana to study it. It is believed that 37 million years ago, an
unknown spacefaring race fired a mass accelerator round of incredible
speed and power at the Reaper, which hit and disabled it. The round
continued moving, eventually impacting the planet Klendagon and creating the Great Rift Valley there.
Klendagon's most striking feature is, of course, the Great Rift valley
that stretches across the southern hemisphere. What is most fascinating
about the Rift is that it does not appear to be natural. The geological
record suggests it is the result of a "glancing blow" by a mass accelerator round of unimaginable destructive power. This occurred some thirty-seven million years ago.
This ladies and gentlemen is our saviour. I think it will feature heavily in ME3.
N7 wrote...
Pwner1323 wrote...
N7 wrote...
defete
Well there's a new word I've never seen before anywhere. Looks latin.
I'm not English.......
So blowing up a star is not dues ex machina, but dark energy suddenly sending them to another dimention or going back in time, or disabling their shields would still be dues ex machina.Val Seleznyov wrote...
Vaenier wrote...
Your logic means that dues ex machina does not exist, because the harnessing of matter and energy is not unexpected and not mentioned prior to its use...
If dark energy means its not dues ex machina, regular energy means it is also not dues ex machina...
English isn't my first language, so maybe i'm just not being very clear.
The dark energy solution would not be considered a dues ex machina because it has been sufficiently built up as an actual solution. Not because it simply is "dark energy". As mentioned by the guy with the Thane avatar, the concept of dark energy creating weird effects in stars was repeatedly mentioned throughout ME2.
At this point in time, "regular energy" hasn't been.
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