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Jimmy Fury wrote...

kalassy wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

kalassy wrote...

Some of you people are impossible. You sit on here and ***** and moan about not knowing enough about the game, and when they release teasers and things, you complain about the graphics, lack of LI ability, story, and character comparisons. No wonder some of the devs are so frustrated on here. If people spent so much time crapping on things it took me years to complete based on a damn 30 second teaser, I would be frustrated too.

Welcome to the internetz?:huh:

Then why are you guys always complaining about the devs if you already know the rules of the internet? That makes no sense.


I... haven't been? I rarely complain about anything let alone the devs.

Anyway, am I the only one who thinks he looks like a very young clean shaven Christpher Eccleston? I think it's the nose that does it.

Now marvel at my oh-so-suave topic returning skills.:wizard:

I don't think he realizes he is preaching to the converted already, only in a really nasty way that is making the converted hate the preacher.

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LPPrince wrote...

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Usually, I wait to get to know a character in-game before I pass judgment. But (to my embarrassment), that trailer did make me squee. And, I've figured out why!

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Ah Disney...


You know, the Beast lost all personality when he turned back into the Prince in Beauty and the Beast.


Probably because, in Disney Princess Movies, the Princess gets all the personality. Not everybody can have the looks AND the brains, right? :pinched:


Ahem. ME.

I've got the looks AND the brains. I'm still waiting for my real life Belle to somehow come into my life. I can then live the happiest life ever lived.


Hmm, I'll give you that :<

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NICKjnp wrote...

kalassy wrote...

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So...umm...why didn't he come with the main game instead of making people pay extra or pre-order?

His story probably doesn't have much to add to the regular story. That's usually how it is with extra characters.


Really?  Because I thought it was because it is a nickel and dime tactic that started when Bioware was indoctrinated by the rEApers.


Surprise. It is because EA/Bioware doesn't want people buying used games from retailers. It is a marketing gimmick, sure, but can you blame them for wanting people to pay full-price for a product they've spent a year creating?
Why don't you create something, market it, and then I'll complain that you want me to pay full-price, and then wait for a used copy.

"Oh, gosh, somebody is trying to make money off of their product! What is this world coming to?" Boo hoo.

One day, when you (hopefully) move out of your mother's basement and get a job, perhaps you will begin to understand how the real world operates.

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 08 janvier 2011 - 07:35 .


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Amyntas

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The Big Nothing wrote...
One day, when you (hopefully) move out of your mother's basement and get a job, perhaps you will begin to understand how the real world operates.


Being dismissive doesn't make you sound smarter. In the real world, people also don't like to be screwed over. Telling me that I can't sell used games like any other product, or only butchered versions, is something I find unacceptable. (I know the industry claims we only 'license' games, but then they should cost 5$, not $50 or now $60)

Modifié par Amyntas, 08 janvier 2011 - 07:52 .


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NICKjnp wrote...

Really?  Because I thought it was because it is a nickel and dime tactic that started when Bioware was indoctrinated by the rEApers.


They only got the resources to create the Sebastian character because of the additional DLC budget. If it weren't for them selling him as DLC, he wouldn't be in the main game either. He just wouldn't exist.

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So... I don't think I get it.



Like: Even if you don't pre-order DA: O, you can still get Shale. She comes with the normal DA: O. Sebastian will be the same? Meaning, if I buy the normal DA II he'll come too or I'll have to buy him anyway?

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With the information we have now, he could be available for free only withe the SE, that has to preordered.

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Dhiro wrote...

So... I don't think I get it.

Like: Even if you don't pre-order DA: O, you can still get Shale. She comes with the normal DA: O. Sebastian will be the same? Meaning, if I buy the normal DA II he'll come too or I'll have to buy him anyway?


unknown, depends if he's implemented with project ten dollars or not.

if yes he's free for new copies and only has to be bought on used copies.
if not he has to bought


EDIT:

the way i see it, there are two different conditions in this 

1- pre-order the signature edition, you get sebastian for free, if not his price tag is 7 dollars 

2- project ten dollar implements aprox. 10 dollars worth of dlc if you buy a new game 

if condition 1 isn't met, condition 2 might kick in if you buy the game new and sebastian may implemented in this condition. 

if both conditions aren't met (buy the game used) you'd have to buy sebastian if you wanted him. 


that is my take on it.

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 08 janvier 2011 - 08:23 .


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Dhiro wrote...

So... I don't think I get it.

Like: Even if you don't pre-order DA: O, you can still get Shale. She comes with the normal DA: O. Sebastian will be the same? Meaning, if I buy the normal DA II he'll come too or I'll have to buy him anyway?


From what I gather, Signature Edition or you pay for it.

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Dhiro wrote...

So... I don't think I get it.

Like: Even if you don't pre-order DA: O, you can still get Shale. She comes with the normal DA: O. Sebastian will be the same? Meaning, if I buy the normal DA II he'll come too or I'll have to buy him anyway?


If you buy the SE DA2, you'll get Seb for free (via card like Shale).  If you buy the normal DA2, you will have to download him/buy him/spend 7 bucks to get him.  That's how Im reading things (please correct me if Im wrong)

Modifié par bsbcaer, 08 janvier 2011 - 08:22 .


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Amyntas wrote...

The Big Nothing wrote...
One day, when you (hopefully) move out of your mother's basement and get a job, perhaps you will begin to understand how the real world operates.


Being dismissive doesn't make you sound smarter. In the real world, people also don't like to be screwed over. Telling me that I can't sell used games like any other product, or only butchered versions, is something I find unacceptable. (I know the industry claims we only 'license' games, but then they should cost 5$, not $50 or now $60)


Complain about the price when it reaches 400-1000 bucks/per license like in programs they need creating this stuff.

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But this has nothing to do with Sebastian go complain about it to somewhere else

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Amyntas wrote...

The Big Nothing wrote...
One day, when you (hopefully) move out of your mother's basement and get a job, perhaps you will begin to understand how the real world operates.


Being dismissive doesn't make you sound smarter. In the real world, people also don't like to be screwed over. Telling me that I can't sell used games like any other product, or only butchered versions, is something I find unacceptable. (I know the industry claims we only 'license' games, but then they should cost 5$, not $50 or now $60)


People can sell whatever they like, but don't expect the original creators to sit idly while they are screwed out of profit.

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The Big Nothing wrote...

People can sell whatever they like, but don't expect the original creators to sit idly while they are screwed out of profit.


I don't think the devs have any say in the matter. It's more of a general complaint towards the gaming industry and their "wild west" attitude. Bioware deserves to make money, don't get me wrong ;-)

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So no one really know the awnser? Hmm, well, I can only hope that he's free for normal DA II :<

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No no, it's like this:



If you preorder now you can get the Signature Edition for the same price as normal DA2. Sebastian is free along with the Signature Edition (along with some other cool stuff).



If you DON'T preorder you will have to buy the Signature Edition for it's higher price, or buy the normal DA2 AND pay extra for the DLC if you want Sebastian.

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Dhiro wrote...

So no one really know the awnser? Hmm, well, I can only hope that he's free for normal DA II :<



"EA’s solution is what CEO John Riccitiello calls “Project Ten Dollar.” The goal of Project Ten Dollar is to encourage new game sales by providing free DLC that used game purchasers would have to pay ten dollars to gain access to. As part of that effort, EA announced that all Fiscal 2011 titles will feature online content."

DA2's release date is still within 2011's fiscal which ends at march 31st (canada, since that's where they're stationed)

so... most likely new copies will still receive dlc stuff that amounts closely to 10 dollars.

sebastian (7dollars) is to me very likely to be implemented this way.


back on topic:

does his bow have a name or isn't he the type to care for such things?

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 08 janvier 2011 - 08:58 .


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I just want to know if he's anything like the ME2 downloadable characters. Well actually, I just want to know if we can actually talk to him instead of him talking to us.

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Dhiro wrote...

So no one really know the awnser? Hmm, well, I can only hope that he's free for normal DA II :<


"Gain the prince’s allegiance as part of The Exiled Prince downloadable
pack included in the BioWare Signature Edition, or available separately
for $7 or 560 Microsoft Points"


First post.

Modifié par Pitrus, 08 janvier 2011 - 09:03 .


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Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

I just want to know if he's anything like the ME2 downloadable characters. Well actually, I just want to know if we can actually talk to him instead of him talking to us.


Oh god I swear if we have to go to his base and click on things to get him to tell us a stor where zeo interaction I'll punch something.

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Valeria Cousland wrote...

If you DON'T preorder you will have to buy the Signature Edition for it's higher price


There isn't a higher price. It's gone after the 11th.

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

does his bow have a name or isn't he the type to care for such things?


I now pronounce his bow Jacob, since he is Edward.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

I just want to know if he's anything like the ME2 downloadable characters. Well actually, I just want to know if we can actually talk to him instead of him talking to us.


Oh god I swear if we have to go to his base and click on things to get him to tell us a stor where zeo interaction I'll punch something.


I was worried about this too, but Jennifer Hepler's comment about flirting with him is a good sign.  I don't care if he's not a romance option, I just don't want to hear the same canned lines every time I try to chat with him.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Valeria Cousland wrote...

If you DON'T preorder you will have to buy the Signature Edition for it's higher price


There isn't a higher price. It's gone after the 11th.


Oh, whoops, my bad.

Okay, then it's preorder the game and get the Signature Edition (with Sebastian) for the normal game price now, or buy the normal game and pay an extra 7$ for Sebastian's DLC.

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Pitrus wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

So no one really know the awnser? Hmm, well, I can only hope that he's free for normal DA II :<


"Gain the prince’s allegiance as part of The Exiled Prince downloadable
pack included in the BioWare Signature Edition, or available separately
for $7 or 560 Microsoft Points"


First post.


Now I'm feeling dumb :blush: But thank you, Pitrus