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Seb Hanlon wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Arl Dulan wrote...
Also, I come to notice "quests" as a plural as well. does that means that our companions will have more than a single personal quest as well? (which is pretty awesome if y' ask me.)


Yes, all companions have multiple personal quests. This includes Sebastian.

The bonus with this character is that every time someone says his name, Seb Hanlon gets to cringe. Posted Image


Not so much "cringe" as "spin around in his chair before realizing they're talking about DLC". Also, there was a time where bugs related to Sebastian and his content got assigned to me to fix, entirely on the strength of the name. /sigh.

Make sure you don't have a vent near you there, Mr. Hanlon.  Because you know someone is going to be whispering your name through there and make you go crazy!  Posted Image

lv12medic wrote...

I just now watched the trailer and I must say wow. That is some pretty awesome paper. Usually if I shot a piece of paper with no backing directly behind it, the arrow just blows straight through the paper. Especially at that range.


Hm, I'm gonna get back to you on that .... as my pop pop own an archery range and compound bows.

Saibh wrote...

I have a confession: I don't like the face morphs. They look cartoonish. They remind of the models from the Sims 3. They don't quite "blend" into the face. You have an obvious nose, an obvious face, and obvious eyes, and they look a bit pasted on. All the lines are quite sharp, almost carved and cut, and that seems to be a style choice, but it makes their faces look a tad cartoony.

Am I the only one who thinks so?



I don't see anything wrong with any of the graphics so far.  Maybe I am more forgiving as I am so used to playing little pixelated stuff on the DS or something.  I think they look good.

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in regards to the DLC thingy - i mean i kinda of share the same opinion. i think because he is a dlc he won't be a romance, however, given how fleshed out shale was as a dlc, perhaps we can actually expect a little more from him? i don't know it can go both ways. the realistic thing is to say he isn't, the optimistic says is, or maybe he is a "false" romance similar to bishop in NWN2.

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Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

in regards to the DLC thingy - i mean i kinda of share the same opinion. i think because he is a dlc he won't be a romance, however, given how fleshed out shale was as a dlc, perhaps we can actually expect a little more from him? i don't know it can go both ways. the realistic thing is to say he isn't, the optimistic says is, or maybe he is a "false" romance similar to bishop in NWN2.


I'm going for the optimistic route, myself; aside from Jennifer Hepler hinting at trying out all the flirt lines, this might also be an attempt at testing the waters for romance DLC, which Bioware said would be possible/explorable. I'm not sure when, but there was a 'romance dlc' interview or something I recall, where when asked, Bioware didn't rule it out as a possibility; nay, they might even have seen interested in it.

I can't dig up the source for the life of me, though. Granted, this was seveeeeraal months back. I'm thinking 2nd to 3rdish quarter of 2010 or 2009 -maybe.- Or my brain is wonky, and it's 3rd to 4th quarter. Hm. 

Edit: AHA! I DISCOVERED IT! Linky.

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Krytheos wrote...
I'm going for the optimistic route, myself; aside from Jennifer Hepler hinting at trying out all the flirt lines, this might also be an attempt at testing the waters for romance DLC, which Bioware said would be possible/explorable. I'm not sure when, but there was a 'romance dlc' interview or something I recall, where when asked, Bioware didn't rule it out as a possibility; nay, they might even have seen interested in it.

I can't dig up the source for the life of me, though. Granted, this was seveeeeraal months back. I'm thinking 2nd to 3rdish quarter of 2010 or 2009 -maybe.- Or my brain is wonky, and it's 3rd to 4th quarter. Hm. 

Edit: AHA! I DISCOVERED IT! Linky.

This  is an interesting concept. Now you have me wondering... LOL! This would be something intriguing  indeed for Bioware to try out. I don't think it'd be too off-base. They've given us clothing packs and extra weapon DLC before.

Oh, and I can't believe you actually found the link. Good find!

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Krytheos wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

in regards to the DLC thingy - i mean i kinda of share the same opinion. i think because he is a dlc he won't be a romance, however, given how fleshed out shale was as a dlc, perhaps we can actually expect a little more from him? i don't know it can go both ways. the realistic thing is to say he isn't, the optimistic says is, or maybe he is a "false" romance similar to bishop in NWN2.


I'm going for the optimistic route, myself; aside from Jennifer Hepler hinting at trying out all the flirt lines, this might also be an attempt at testing the waters for romance DLC, which Bioware said would be possible/explorable. I'm not sure when, but there was a 'romance dlc' interview or something I recall, where when asked, Bioware didn't rule it out as a possibility; nay, they might even have seen interested in it.

I can't dig up the source for the life of me, though. Granted, this was seveeeeraal months back. I'm thinking 2nd to 3rdish quarter of 2010 or 2009 -maybe.- Or my brain is wonky, and it's 3rd to 4th quarter. Hm. 

Edit: AHA! I DISCOVERED IT! Linky.





I think I'm with you on Sebastian being a LI.  In the Varric and Fenris thread, shortly after people started to speculate on whether or not they were romancable, a dev pretty quickly tamped down expectations with "not all companions are love interests" (or something similar).  With Sebastian, they came right out and said he had flirt lines and his VA nailed all the emotional moments quite well. (which is probably just wishful thinking on that last one!)  He is one smexy fella Posted Image... Even if his back story of avenging a murrrrderrred family isn't all that new and exciting, I'm curious as to know *who* did it and *why*.  As long as it wasn't Professor Plum with a candlestick.

Sooo, yes.  Is it March yet!??!  Posted Image

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Taragon wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

*image*

-hauls serious ass away from the incomeing horde of fangirls-


except the nose, everything is awesome.:wub: Hope F!Hawke can marry him eventually.


Ohh haha thankyou for posting that you could of linked back to me tho http://nefquareiel.deviantart.com/ i have other seb pictures there and in the works :P I might have to work on his nose in the future hehehe !

I only trawl the forums every couple of days (& dont post) so pls forgive me for quoting something 2 pages back XD

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Tharissa wrote...

Krytheos wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

in regards to the DLC thingy - i mean i kinda of share the same opinion. i think because he is a dlc he won't be a romance, however, given how fleshed out shale was as a dlc, perhaps we can actually expect a little more from him? i don't know it can go both ways. the realistic thing is to say he isn't, the optimistic says is, or maybe he is a "false" romance similar to bishop in NWN2.


I'm going for the optimistic route, myself; aside from Jennifer Hepler hinting at trying out all the flirt lines, this might also be an attempt at testing the waters for romance DLC, which Bioware said would be possible/explorable. I'm not sure when, but there was a 'romance dlc' interview or something I recall, where when asked, Bioware didn't rule it out as a possibility; nay, they might even have seen interested in it.

I can't dig up the source for the life of me, though. Granted, this was seveeeeraal months back. I'm thinking 2nd to 3rdish quarter of 2010 or 2009 -maybe.- Or my brain is wonky, and it's 3rd to 4th quarter. Hm. 

Edit: AHA! I DISCOVERED IT! Linky.





I think I'm with you on Sebastian being a LI.  In the Varric and Fenris thread, shortly after people started to speculate on whether or not they were romancable, a dev pretty quickly tamped down expectations with "not all companions are love interests" (or something similar).  With Sebastian, they came right out and said he had flirt lines and his VA nailed all the emotional moments quite well. (which is probably just wishful thinking on that last one!)  He is one smexy fella Posted Image... Even if his back story of avenging a murrrrderrred family isn't all that new and exciting, I'm curious as to know *who* did it and *why*.  As long as it wasn't Professor Plum with a candlestick.

Sooo, yes.  Is it March yet!??!  Posted Image


at the very least it gives the option to people who REALLY want a romance to have it and the people that say "no more romances, focus on fighting!" will be satisfied for like.....2 seconds before they come up with "why is all the DLC romances!? why can't they be extra missions?"

my only thing is if romances go the DLC route, then they won't be very interactive - you know how alistair would say different things at different points in the game depending on his friendship/romance level? wouldn't that be something a little more difficult to incoporate in a game as downloadable content, unless 1)the dlc was made the same time as the game itself or 2)the dlc is actually restore content the same way shale was

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Is it wrong that I keep coming back to oggle his pics?

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Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

Tharissa wrote...

Krytheos wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

in regards to the DLC thingy - i mean i kinda of share the same opinion. i think because he is a dlc he won't be a romance, however, given how fleshed out shale was as a dlc, perhaps we can actually expect a little more from him? i don't know it can go both ways. the realistic thing is to say he isn't, the optimistic says is, or maybe he is a "false" romance similar to bishop in NWN2.


I'm going for the optimistic route, myself; aside from Jennifer Hepler hinting at trying out all the flirt lines, this might also be an attempt at testing the waters for romance DLC, which Bioware said would be possible/explorable. I'm not sure when, but there was a 'romance dlc' interview or something I recall, where when asked, Bioware didn't rule it out as a possibility; nay, they might even have seen interested in it.

I can't dig up the source for the life of me, though. Granted, this was seveeeeraal months back. I'm thinking 2nd to 3rdish quarter of 2010 or 2009 -maybe.- Or my brain is wonky, and it's 3rd to 4th quarter. Hm. 

Edit: AHA! I DISCOVERED IT! Linky.





I think I'm with you on Sebastian being a LI.  In the Varric and Fenris thread, shortly after people started to speculate on whether or not they were romancable, a dev pretty quickly tamped down expectations with "not all companions are love interests" (or something similar).  With Sebastian, they came right out and said he had flirt lines and his VA nailed all the emotional moments quite well. (which is probably just wishful thinking on that last one!)  He is one smexy fella Posted Image... Even if his back story of avenging a murrrrderrred family isn't all that new and exciting, I'm curious as to know *who* did it and *why*.  As long as it wasn't Professor Plum with a candlestick.

Sooo, yes.  Is it March yet!??!  Posted Image


at the very least it gives the option to people who REALLY want a romance to have it and the people that say "no more romances, focus on fighting!" will be satisfied for like.....2 seconds before they come up with "why is all the DLC romances!? why can't they be extra missions?"

my only thing is if romances go the DLC route, then they won't be very interactive - you know how alistair would say different things at different points in the game depending on his friendship/romance level? wouldn't that be something a little more difficult to incoporate in a game as downloadable content, unless 1)the dlc was made the same time as the game itself or 2)the dlc is actually restore content the same way shale was


It's entirely possible that the dlc such as romance dlc could reasonably be incorporated into the main game as the case with Shayle was and her incorporation into the main game; the devs have said that this is much more content intentisve, during the case when they talked about possibly making Jowan a DLC Companion they said it wasn't impossible; just that it would be resource intentisve -- more voice over work, lines, etc. -- and because they had a limited budget with DAO DLC, wouldn't likely be cause for Jowan to be a dlc companion because of that. Or something to that effect.

Alternatively, they could make the character alongside the game itself, as I imagine this was how Sebastian was created, and make him/her/them very similar to Shayle interactively speaking. This could even be how one might do it; make it alongside the game but wait until you're confident the game is going to sell well before releasing it, either as free content or small price content extra's. This wouldn't be too unheard of, since Mass Effect 2 released appearence packs and/or weapons dlc..for money. I would be more willing to pay money for a fleshed out DLC character than weapons and appearences, so if they did go the DLC character route, I will expect quality from them. 

Also, DLC missions for both games weren't that great, but weren't that bad. I've seen missions or DLC far worse than what either game offered, even if I only really consider Overlord the only dlc mission worth actual money.

Getting off-topic there, but yes. It's entirely possible for it to occur/be made. It's also possible the quality assurance can't get through in time for day one DLC, so the companion character[s] are put back for just after the game is released. Etc. There are a lot of possiblities for this sort of thing.

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I just don't see how they could create this hawt prince character and not make him romanceable....that would be so cruel

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Riosred wrote...

I just don't see how they could create this hawt prince character and not make him romanceable....that would be so cruel


Most definitely.  I already have my eye on him :wub:

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Saberchic wrote...

Krytheos wrote...
I'm going for the optimistic route, myself; aside from Jennifer Hepler hinting at trying out all the flirt lines, this might also be an attempt at testing the waters for romance DLC, which Bioware said would be possible/explorable. I'm not sure when, but there was a 'romance dlc' interview or something I recall, where when asked, Bioware didn't rule it out as a possibility; nay, they might even have seen interested in it.

I can't dig up the source for the life of me, though. Granted, this was seveeeeraal months back. I'm thinking 2nd to 3rdish quarter of 2010 or 2009 -maybe.- Or my brain is wonky, and it's 3rd to 4th quarter. Hm. 

Edit: AHA! I DISCOVERED IT! Linky.

This  is an interesting concept. Now you have me wondering... LOL! This would be something intriguing  indeed for Bioware to try out. I don't think it'd be too off-base. They've given us clothing packs and extra weapon DLC before.

Oh, and I can't believe you actually found the link. Good find!


I really hope you are right about him being a LI... but the first image that came to my mind reading that comment from Jennifer Hepler on trying the flirt options was my F!Hawke getting a restriction horder from the chantry! :lol:

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Do we have confirmation that he is a rogue? Couldn't he be a warrior?

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Mase Yevon wrote...

Do we have confirmation that he is a rogue? Couldn't he be a warrior?


Warriors don't use bows anymore.

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Melness wrote...

Mase Yevon wrote...

Do we have confirmation that he is a rogue? Couldn't he be a warrior?


Warriors don't use bows anymore.


:blink: Oh...  I missed that appearently...

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 Okay, I don't know if this was discussed or if anyone notice an interesting piece of dialog back in origins that may link to Sebastian's past

So in Origins, if you work with Master Ignacio with the Crow Assassin quest, there is an interesting exchange between him, Zevran, and the Warden. Ignacio says that a client can hire more assassins if the previous one failed to get the job done. To that, Zevran can chime in and recounts the time when a whole house(?) of crows were hired to murder an entire noble family.

Could this be a possible link to Sebastian? Zev does say that no one was spared, but Sebastian could have very well been away at the time and avoided the slaughter unknown the rest of the crows. We know that his entire family was murdered and it was assassins that did the deed, maybe they were crows? Maybe I'm over analyzing, but it's interesting if this were the case.:ph34r:

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Sebastian is currently the only guy that doesn't really squick me out at the thought of a romance scene with either gender hawke. (FYI I'm guy)

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Sebastian's story actually reminds me a little bit of the Empire Trilogy by Janny Wurts and Raymond Feist. In it, the story starts when the heroine is just about to be confirmed as a priestess of Lashima when she receives word that politics and war resulted in her father and brother dying, making her now the last person capable of continuing her family line.



Those books were deadly, but often subtle and political. She had to use her brain to save herself and all the people who worked for her family from being assassinated.



I wonder if it will be like that for Sebastian--constant attempts on his life due to his political enemies knowing he's the only living Vael and thus the only obstacle, or whether he'll not be considered a threat at first, causing the player to have to convince him to relinquish his chantry ties completely and try to become a ruler. Heh, it would be interesting if the player could become royalty again.

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Has it been mentioned that hawks mother is from nobility and Sebastian is a noble, therefore perhaps that is done on purpose in case there is a romance that leads to marriage since both have to be nobility? Just throwing it out there with high hopes!

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If Sebastian IS a LI, I hope he doesn't count as a normal one. It wouldn't be fair to those that can't/wont get dlc to have only one dude LI in the vanilla game because they want people to get sebastian.

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Eveangaline wrote...

If Sebastian IS a LI, I hope he doesn't count as a normal one. It wouldn't be fair to those that can't/wont get dlc to have only one dude LI in the vanilla game because they want people to get sebastian.


I completely agree on this..

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*__*!!! LOVE his accent! And he's cute, too. >:3



Hope he's an LI. Or will he pull a Samara on us and say, "Maybe in another lifetime."? *laments not being able to romance Samara*

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So many attractive men in this game... It's fortunate they're not all romanceable. I wouldn't be able to chose otherwise. :P

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Am I the only one who is somewhat reminded of Oberyn Martell from A Song of Ice and Fire?

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Il Divo wrote...

Am I the only one who is somewhat reminded of Oberyn Martell from A Song of Ice and Fire?


Aside from the avenger part, not really... and Oberyn wasn't exactly... priest-like.:P