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The Exiled Prince, Sebastian Vael


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#1926
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Lokatress wrote...

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The flirt lines may just lead to a one-liner. That wouldn't be "a waste of resources."
Besides, how will game Hawke know who is and who isn't romanceable. To me, it makes sense that there would be flirt lines in there.
In my imagination, he regretfully has to turn Hawke down. I've already decided that there will be a lot of secret pining for Hawke from Seb. yes, that's right. I've already got a story in my head. LOL


Oh, the awkwardness of that future moment ^_^

Hawke/Seb is already happening in my head too ;)

It's good to see I'm not the only one! :happy:I figure if his rebuff is kind of harsh in game, that it's just him fighting the attraction. I'm hopeless; I know. But I've got a plan, dang it! :wub:

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Saberchic wrote...

Lokatress wrote...

Saberchic wrote...

The flirt lines may just lead to a one-liner. That wouldn't be "a waste of resources."
Besides, how will game Hawke know who is and who isn't romanceable. To me, it makes sense that there would be flirt lines in there.
In my imagination, he regretfully has to turn Hawke down. I've already decided that there will be a lot of secret pining for Hawke from Seb. yes, that's right. I've already got a story in my head. LOL


Oh, the awkwardness of that future moment ^_^

Hawke/Seb is already happening in my head too ;)

It's good to see I'm not the only one! :happy:I figure if his rebuff is kind of harsh in game, that it's just him fighting the attraction. I'm hopeless; I know. But I've got a plan, dang it! :wub:



LOL!   go for it!.  ROFL

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If it comes to one line flirts I hope there are some with Varric, don't need or for that part even want Sebastian taking up one of my valuable companion slots for that.



The way I see it Sebastian will be like Zaeed but with Samara like flirt lines. Totally useless except for one unique mission and about three minutes of pseudo romance.



I'd rather they would have given us something or someone totally unique like Shale or just one unique mission without the pointless extra character like Overlord in Mass Effect.

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Finis Valorum wrote...

If it comes to one line flirts I hope there are some with Varric...

I don't see why there wouldn't be any with Varric or Aveline for that matter. I'm sure I'll get a kick out of what the writers came up with for those responses.


The way I see it Sebastian will be like Zaeed but with Samara like flirt lines. Totally useless except for one unique mission and about three minutes of pseudo romance.

It's been stated that he's like a full companion, so he'll more than likely have multiple personal quests like the rest of the companions. As for being useless... I don't think he'll be useless. Why would you think that?

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he seems like a very serious person (which is fine). can we expect humor from him?

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Saberchic wrote...

It's been stated that he's like a full companion, so he'll more than likely have multiple personal quests like the rest of the companions. As for being useless... I don't think he'll be useless. Why would you think that?


Well for starters lets look at what his defining characteristics are, he's a ranged fighter, a rogue and a prince. Oh and he doesn't look too bad I suppose.

However in the main game we already have a character who shares most of those characteristics because Varric is also a rogue, a ranged fighter and a prince who's kind of scruffy cute and has a cooler weapon to boot (Bianca, the crossbow I believe)

So for me this makes Sebastian completely redundant except as a potential Li or as a ranged fighter/rogue substitute for people who really don't like either Varric or Dwarves in their party or have a (girl)crush on the accent.
Since I happen to like Dwarves and have a feeling I'm going to like Varric a lot this means there'll be no room for him to take up a companion slot in my party.

This therefore makes me dissapointed with the BW Signature edition as Sebastian as a whole seems to be a far less useful character than Shale in DA1 was since Shale had the potential to add something unique to every possible character and party combination whereas Seb just doesn't.
Similarly a unique mission like Overlord would at least have added something to enjoy with every possible class and party combination (especially if the NPC all had unique comments on it Imho the only significant drawback of Overlord).

A romance especially a bisexual one would have given him something that would make including him in the party worthwhile. Though I shall admit that if Varric had also been a romance I wouldn't have gotten around to Sebastian until my second playthrough.

Therefore like i've said previously as things stand now I don't think i'm even going to go to the trouble to download, install and activate my free Dlc.

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A trade prince is not the same as a prince.

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Finis Valorum wrote...

Saberchic wrote...

It's been stated that he's like a full companion, so he'll more than likely have multiple personal quests like the rest of the companions. As for being useless... I don't think he'll be useless. Why would you think that?


Well for starters lets look at what his defining characteristics are, he's a ranged fighter, a rogue and a prince. Oh and he doesn't look too bad I suppose.

However in the main game we already have a character who shares most of those characteristics because Varric is also a rogue, a ranged fighter and a prince who's kind of scruffy cute and has a cooler weapon to boot (Bianca, the crossbow I believe)

So for me this makes Sebastian completely redundant except as a potential Li or as a ranged fighter/rogue substitute for people who really don't like either Varric or Dwarves in their party or have a (girl)crush on the accent.
Since I happen to like Dwarves and have a feeling I'm going to like Varric a lot this means there'll be no room for him to take up a companion slot in my party.

This therefore makes me dissapointed with the BW Signature edition as Sebastian as a whole seems to be a far less useful character than Shale in DA1 was since Shale had the potential to add something unique to every possible character and party combination whereas Seb just doesn't.
Similarly a unique mission like Overlord would at least have added something to enjoy with every possible class and party combination (especially if the NPC all had unique comments on it Imho the only significant drawback of Overlord).

A romance especially a bisexual one would have given him something that would make including him in the party worthwhile. Though I shall admit that if Varric had also been a romance I wouldn't have gotten around to Sebastian until my second playthrough.

Therefore like i've said previously as things stand now I don't think i'm even going to go to the trouble to download, install and activate my free Dlc.


I can totally see your POV. However, I think Seb and Varric will have distinctly different personalities and stories. That makes it worth it for me, so I'm going to be optimistic and say that adding Seb to the party would be worthwile. I don't think they'd add in another character that's a rip-off of another. There'd be no point. I think each party member brings a different chemistry to the group.
This doesn't mean that Varric won't be in my party. I love Varric! And I'm sure the party will get a +10 defense bonus because of the chest hair when Varric's in the party, and it will be GLORIOUS! :wizard:

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I think the important question here is : Can we Bed him?

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ALVIG824 wrote...

he seems like a very serious person (which is fine). can we expect humor from him?


Probably very dry humor, sarcasm, and odd jokes at random times that we won't realize...alot like Nate Howe....

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Why is it that we have to buy characters now...this really bugs me.

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Rivehn wrote...

Why is it that we have to buy characters now...this really bugs me.


Well It's like Shale from DAO...
You get the Sig Edition you get him free, you get normal, you have to buy him.
He isn't like some pivotol plot point in the game that you have to buy before you can complete. He's just an extra character for fun.

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Zero Tabris wrote...

Rivehn wrote...

Why is it that we have to buy characters now...this really bugs me.


Well It's like Shale from DAO...
You get the Sig Edition you get him free, you get normal, you have to buy him.
He isn't like some pivotol plot point in the game that you have to buy before you can complete. He's just an extra character for fun.


I see and is the sig edition like a collectors edition and is so how much more?

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Rivehn wrote...

Why is it that we have to buy characters now...this really bugs me.


Because you didn't order early enough, which I did and I will have him for free ;)

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Rivehn wrote...

Zero Tabris wrote...

Rivehn wrote...

Why is it that we have to buy characters now...this really bugs me.


Well It's like Shale from DAO...
You get the Sig Edition you get him free, you get normal, you have to buy him.
He isn't like some pivotol plot point in the game that you have to buy before you can complete. He's just an extra character for fun.


I see and is the sig edition like a collectors edition and is so how much more?


I think it was said somewhere  couple of times.
Sig Edition=Collector's Edition

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ooo I so hope he's an LI


No chance. We've got a full list on who's romanceable, besides he's a DLC character. it's possible to flirt with him though.


I disagree with this. In mass effect 2 DLC, lair of the shadow broker you could continue a certain romance with a character from mass effect 1. I don't see what's the big fuss about him being a DLC. Zaeed/Kasumi/Shale might have not been romanceable, but with the option to continue romance in ME2 latest DLC as an example , I still believe there is a small chance of hope.

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@ Finis Valorum I totally see what your trying to say and I comletely agree, but it is completely POV if Sebastian is a "recycled" character. First off, we need to play the game in it's entirety before we jump to conclusions about ANY character, unlike you I will probably be using Sebastian > Varric. And saying that he "has a cooler weapon to boot" is quite the opposite for me, I absolutely despise crossbows/guns in my fantasy genres, but hey, thats my POV. Do with it what you will.

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Here are some banners I made if anyone wants to use them, I can't remember if I've posted them yet. ^_^;;

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EDIT: A variation of the second one because I just noticed I did a different background on the first few. ::cough::

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Stupid question ... how do I put those in my sig?  Do I right click & copy image location?

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Saberchic wrote...

It's been stated that he's like a full companion, so he'll more than likely have multiple personal quests like the rest of the companions. As for being useless... I don't think he'll be useless. Why would you think that?



It is all right because that his or her  preference NOT to have him in his or her group.  As for me, he is my first pick when he becomes available.

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Rivehn wrote...

Zero Tabris wrote...

Rivehn wrote...

Why is it that we have to buy characters now...this really bugs me.


Well It's like Shale from DAO...
You get the Sig Edition you get him free, you get normal, you have to buy him.
He isn't like some pivotol plot point in the game that you have to buy before you can complete. He's just an extra character for fun.


I see and is the sig edition like a collectors edition and is so how much more?


If you preordered before 1-1-11 it was a free upgrade to sig, but if you buy it now its 79.99 instead of 59.99

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rak72 wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Here are some banners I made if anyone wants to use them, I can't remember if I've posted them yet. ^_^;;

Image IPB

Image IPB

EDIT: A variation of the second one because I just noticed I did a different background on the first few. ::cough::

Image IPB


Stupid question ... how do I put those in my sig?  Do I right click & copy image location?



This helped me

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Tehnazzy wrote...

packardbell wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

ooo I so hope he's an LI


No chance. We've got a full list on who's romanceable, besides he's a DLC character. it's possible to flirt with him though.


I disagree with this. In mass effect 2 DLC, lair of the shadow broker you could continue a certain romance with a character from mass effect 1. I don't see what's the big fuss about him being a DLC. Zaeed/Kasumi/Shale might have not been romanceable, but with the option to continue romance in ME2 latest DLC as an example , I still believe there is a small chance of hope.

Also we may not have a "Full" list, the list we have are just the confirmed LIs. There may be more, in fact in an interview from a few days ago Mike Laidlaw hinted that they haven't even give a full party list yet.

I think they are trying to keep some info for us to learn on our own. And being DLC has nothing to do with him being a LI or not. If they made both the main game and the DLC with that in mind they could make it happen rather easy in fact.

Modifié par TCBC_Freak, 15 février 2011 - 08:06 .


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@ Coldhorizons, I"ll give you the part about the coolness of their respective weapons, such things are after all highly subjective and as a card carrying, liberal gun club member I'm hardly impartial when it comes to such issues.

However I stand by the rest of statements and I'm still very disappointed that such a redundant character is our DLC when they could have spent arguably less resources to do a unique dlc mission.

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Lokatress wrote...

rak72 wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Here are some banners I made if anyone wants to use them, I can't remember if I've posted them yet. ^_^;;

Image IPB

Image IPB

EDIT: A variation of the second one because I just noticed I did a different background on the first few. ::cough::

Image IPB



Stupid question ... how do I put those in my sig?  Do I right click & copy image location?



This helped me


Thanks!

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sebastiano mi pare una testa di cazzo!