This is one of my absolute favorite storylines in Dragon Age: Origins and I really hope we find out more in Dragon Age II. But not all. I want this to linger and then, finaly in a future game, the Terrible Presence returns for a final showdown!
Backstory for thoes who doesn't know what I am talking about.
In Brecilian Ruins, a Tevinter ruin filled with Elven things, you find out that during a bloody war between Tevinter and Elves (or it could have been before the war), they united against a common enemy called the Terrible Presence but where destroyed in the end.
In the Dalish Elf origin you also get hints about this when you find an old Tevinter ruin (could be the same ruin?) where Elves hade lived apperently in peace with Tevinter (at least that is how it looks).
There might be something about it in Witch Hunt also but I don't know since I havent finnished that one yet.
What was the Terrible Presence? How could it be so terrible that it united 2 mortal enemys to fight for their survival and still lose? Why is this part of history unknown? And what happened to the Terrible Presence? Someone must have stoped it or it would have continue attacking the world. Unless it targeted just them for a reason.
What do you think?
And have the Devs anything to say about this?
The Great War against the Terrible Presence!
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Johnny Shepard
, janv. 07 2011 11:28
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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 11:30
AngelicMachinery
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A) Dark Spawn
Flemeth
C) Anders
In all seriousness though, I would like to know more about this as well. I'm always a fan of cthonic entities looking to break down the doors of reality.
FlemethC) Anders
In all seriousness though, I would like to know more about this as well. I'm always a fan of cthonic entities looking to break down the doors of reality.
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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 11:34
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AngelicMachinery wrote...
C) Anders
Ayup.
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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 11:34
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I had a theory before.
David Gaider talked on one the PAX chats, about another race called the Fex.
The live on the same islands as the Qunari, but we don't know if they are the natives or came with the Qunari.
So if the Fex are natives to Thedas, maybe they fought the elves and humans?
David Gaider talked on one the PAX chats, about another race called the Fex.
The live on the same islands as the Qunari, but we don't know if they are the natives or came with the Qunari.
So if the Fex are natives to Thedas, maybe they fought the elves and humans?
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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 11:36
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The Darkspawn more then likely.
The ancient Elves and Dwarves were shown to be on good terms with each other. The Darkspawn probably emerged from an old trading outpost of theirs and pwned everyone.
The ancient Elves and Dwarves were shown to be on good terms with each other. The Darkspawn probably emerged from an old trading outpost of theirs and pwned everyone.
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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 11:38
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I'm betting on Aliens from outer space. According to a History Channel show, aliens like to tinker around with ancient civilizations.
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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 11:40
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I think it was called a "terrifying presence". Just pointing that out.
And I don't believe it was ever explicitly stated why the elves and humans were living together. It never said they banded together to fight a common threat or were just living in harmony side-by-side before the war.
And I don't believe it was ever explicitly stated why the elves and humans were living together. It never said they banded together to fight a common threat or were just living in harmony side-by-side before the war.
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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 11:43
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I don't think the Fex is a Terrible Presence. Didn't Sten say that the Qunari was at war with the inhabitants of Par Vollen? If so then if the Fex could destroy Tevinter AND the Elves working together then they wouldn't have any problem with the Qunari.
Myself I think the Terrible Presence is something we haven't seen yet or something we have seen just in passing without knowing what it really was. Like the thing in the Deep Roads that was hacked in pices so that it would not return or the Unbound.
Myself I think the Terrible Presence is something we haven't seen yet or something we have seen just in passing without knowing what it really was. Like the thing in the Deep Roads that was hacked in pices so that it would not return or the Unbound.
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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 11:43
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It may predate the invasion of the Golden City. The spirit in the gem was an Arcane Warrior and that art was lost with Arlathan which fell before that incident.thegreateski wrote...
The Darkspawn more then likely.
The ancient Elves and Dwarves were shown to be on good terms with each other. The Darkspawn probably emerged from an old trading outpost of theirs and pwned everyone.
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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 11:44
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Those were both Demons, Johnny.
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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 11:47
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Blacklash93 wrote...
And I don't believe it was ever explicitly stated why the elves and humans were living together. It never said they banded together to fight a common threat or were just living in harmony side-by-side before the war.
No, it just said that "a Terrible Presence" attacked and destroyed Humans and Elves alike and that there had been a great war between Humans and Elves.
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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 11:48
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Rock Wraith's then? They're certainly a "terrifying presence".Blacklash93 wrote...
It may predate the invasion of the Golden City. The spirit in the gem was an Arcane Warrior and that art was lost with Arlathan which fell before that incident.thegreateski wrote...
The Darkspawn more then likely.
The ancient Elves and Dwarves were shown to be on good terms with each other. The Darkspawn probably emerged from an old trading outpost of theirs and pwned everyone.
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Posté 07 janvier 2011 - 11:53
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I'm reminded of Alan Wake for some reason.
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Posté 08 janvier 2011 - 12:10
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"C" "C" I pick C! It HAZ to be "C"
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Posté 08 janvier 2011 - 12:12
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Not acording to the Wiki.Blacklash93 wrote...
I think it was called a "terrifying presence". Just pointing that out.
Anyway, I get the feeling that it's something big and powerfull, not just an everyday demon or a creature that you get to kill hundreds of during you playthrough.
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Posté 08 janvier 2011 - 12:17
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thegreateski wrote...
The Darkspawn more then likely.
Possibly.
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Posté 08 janvier 2011 - 12:19
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It says there was a great war, but it also said that the memory was too faded to make out what it was about or who exactly was fighting. All that's certain is that ther elves and humans were living together and were then wiped out.
And I'm pretty sure the presence was described as "terrifying", not terrible. Not that it matters.
I think it may have been the great shadow that Elini Zenovia was talking about in WH. The random veil tears were freaking her out and she was saying that a "prison" had been breached.
And I'm pretty sure the presence was described as "terrifying", not terrible. Not that it matters.
I think it may have been the great shadow that Elini Zenovia was talking about in WH. The random veil tears were freaking her out and she was saying that a "prison" had been breached.
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Posté 08 janvier 2011 - 12:24
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What I found interesting was the statue that had to wait "until the Maker lights their fires anew" because if she was the wife of an Archon in Ferelden, she pre-dated Andreste.
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Posté 08 janvier 2011 - 12:31
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The problem is that this seem to predate the Darkspawn. The Darkspawn came 800 years after the enslavement of the Elves and this must have been during, or before, the war between Tevinter and the Elves.Maria Caliban wrote...
thegreateski wrote...
The Darkspawn more then likely.
Possibly.
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Posté 08 janvier 2011 - 01:03
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Mouse wasn't a demon, he was ha mage.
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Posté 08 janvier 2011 - 01:04
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Johnny Shepard wrote...
Mouse wasn't a demon, he was ha mage.
I'm pretty sure he was a demon, what with the whole wanting to wear your skin.
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Posté 08 janvier 2011 - 01:16
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Maria Caliban wrote...
What I found interesting was the statue that had to wait "until the Maker lights their fires anew" because if she was the wife of an Archon in Ferelden, she pre-dated Andreste.
Yeah, in Witch Hunt Eleni Zinovia talks of some foreboding Darkness or something. As I recall, somebody started a thread speculating on Eleni Zinovia and Laidlaw(?) chimed in saying it was a good bet we'd learn more about the stuff the statue was talking about.
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Posté 08 janvier 2011 - 01:21
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I think it's a safe bet that there are more terrifyng enimies than Darkspawn in thedas. I mean they have been beaten back like 5 times now.
Maby the barrier has somthing to do with the black city. Arlathan was cast out of the world perhaps sealing the presence with it. Assuming Arlathan is the black city.
Maby the barrier has somthing to do with the black city. Arlathan was cast out of the world perhaps sealing the presence with it. Assuming Arlathan is the black city.
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Posté 08 janvier 2011 - 01:21
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I haven't finnished the Mage Origin so I didn't know. The one you se later in the game was a Mage.AngelicMachinery wrote...
Johnny Shepard wrote...
Mouse wasn't a demon, he was ha mage.
I'm pretty sure he was a demon, what with the whole wanting to wear your skin.
