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[kidbd15]

If they reveal quarian face in ME3, then it's okay... if they still hide it, then it is dumb to keep it hidden (my opinion)... how about if Tali is still alive in your ME3, then you should see her face, if not, then you don't see any quarian face

edit: the player themselves are supposed to be shepard right, and see everything shepard sees... so if we chose to romance tali, why don't we (as shepard) see tali's face during the romance scene? that part always bugged me

Modifié par kidbd15, 08 janvier 2011 - 01:39 .

[didymos1120]

OP, there are pictures of quarians. It's just that Shepard will conveniently never run across one in such a way that the player can see it.

[Nightwriter]

I always got the impression that if you flipped open a history book or turned on the telly to the discovery channel or something you'd see a depiction of what quarians look like.

But Shepard never flips open history books or turns on tellies.

[Badpie]

I figure most people in the ME universe have at least seen a picture of a Quarian without a helmet. They're not that mysterious to the people who populate that universe. They're mysterious to us.

[Bullets McDeath]

To me, that is the dumbest part of all, although I wasn't aware of it when I created the thread. It just makes the "mystery" of it all that much more artificial and arbitrary. Oh, well. It's less dumb than if literally NO ONE knew what they looked like, but... still dumb. IMO, YMMV, etc etc ad naseum.

[primero holodon]

I have no doubt that pictures of the quarians exist, but that doesn't mean that a quarians apperance is common knowledge. I mean there are plenty of organisms on earth that have gone extinct after the invention of the camera, but despite this most people wouldn't know what a tasmanian wolf looks like despite pictures of them existing. you have to realise that in the Mass effect universe people don't interact with quarians very often, so most people wouldn't be interested.

Modifié par primero holodon, 08 janvier 2011 - 02:47 .

[In Exile]

It involves the general punch to the balls that Bioware does re: biology in ME. Immunology and evolution cry when the quarians are mentioned.

[noisecode]

outlaworacle wrote...

Um, who's whining? I don't really give a toss.

obviously you do give a "Toss" since you made an entire post dedicated to the subject.

[thegreateski]

I find it strange that I have to repeat this.



Suspend your disbelief.

[Bullets McDeath]

noisecode wrote...

outlaworacle wrote...

Um, who's whining? I don't really give a toss.

obviously you do give a "Toss" since you made an entire post dedicated to the subject.

Alternately, you could actually read my post and not be deathly literal. Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Why would you want to loss your love for Tali? Because you know you wouldn't love her anymore when you find out that she looks like a Predetor.

[Bullets McDeath]

thegreateski wrote...

I find it strange that I have to repeat this.

Suspend your disbelief.

It's not about suspension of disbelief. It's the fact only the player is left in the dark about what Quarians look like. I find it strange that I have to repeat myself, too, but I guess that's what happens when people don't bother to read a thread before replying to it

[noisecode]

outlaworacle wrote...

noisecode wrote...

outlaworacle wrote...

Um, who's whining? I don't really give a toss.

obviously you do give a "Toss" since you made an entire post dedicated to the subject.

Alternately, you could actually read my post and not be deathly literal. Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

If i should not have taken it literaly, than how should i have taken it?  Figuretivly?  Metaphoricaly?  Philosophicaly?

[noisecode]

outlaworacle wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

I find it strange that I have to repeat this.

Suspend your disbelief.

It's not about suspension of disbelief. It's the fact only the player is left in the dark about what Quarians look like.

So what?  So the player is left in the dark about what she looks like.  Not that big a deal.  You sound like the sort of person who gets angry when the weathermen fail to predict the weather with 100% accuracy.

  Hey!  you should be a weather man..... you do have the word oracle in your name.

[thegreateski]

outlaworacle wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

I find it strange that I have to repeat this.

Suspend your disbelief.

It's not about suspension of disbelief. It's the fact only the player is left in the dark about what Quarians look like. I find it strange that I have to repeat myself, too, but I guess that's what happens when people don't bother to read a thread before replying to it

Oh please. People have been doing things like this for years.

Just look at Charlie Browns teacher.

Oh wait. You can't.

[xlavaina]

I entered thinking this was a troll/rage topic. I guess looks can be deceiving. Anyway it is kinda weird I agree OP.

Edit: nvm. I thought it said Quarian mission which was why I thought it was a troll topic and was confused when the OP had nothing to do with it  my fail. 

Modifié par xlavaina, 08 janvier 2011 - 03:19 .

[Bullets McDeath]

noisecode wrote...

outlaworacle wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

I find it strange that I have to repeat this.

Suspend your disbelief.

It's not about suspension of disbelief. It's the fact only the player is left in the dark about what Quarians look like.

So what?  So the player is left in the dark about what she looks like.  Not that big a deal.  You sound like the sort of person who gets angry when the weathermen fail to predict the weather with 100% accuracy.

  Hey!  you should be a weather man..... you do have the word oracle in your name.

At what point in my original post was I "angry"? I only got snippy when you decided to grace us with your trolly presence. Way to fail, son.

EDIT: Oh wait, you're a freaking Talimancer. That explains it

Modifié par outlaworacle, 08 janvier 2011 - 04:00 .

[Bullets McDeath]

thegreateski wrote...

outlaworacle wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

I find it strange that I have to repeat this.

Suspend your disbelief.

It's not about suspension of disbelief. It's the fact only the player is left in the dark about what Quarians look like. I find it strange that I have to repeat myself, too, but I guess that's what happens when people don't bother to read a thread before replying to it

Oh please. People have been doing things like this for years.

Just look at Charlie Browns teacher.

Oh wait. You can't.

Again, nothing to do with suspension of disbelief. Nor am I unfamiliar with the "faceless character" trope, nor are are you the first person in this thread to even point it out.  Thanks for being pedantic and assuming I'm retarded though, that's always charming.

[didymos1120]

outlaworacle wrote...

Again, nothing to do with suspension of disbelief. Nor am I unfamiliar with the "faceless character" trope, nor are are you the first person in this thread to even point it out.  Thanks for being pedantic and assuming I'm retarded though, that's always charming.

So, are you miffed at all the bajillion other instances of the trope?  If so, OK. I can respect consistency.  If not, why not?

Modifié par didymos1120, 08 janvier 2011 - 04:03 .

[Bullets McDeath]

didymos1120 wrote...

outlaworacle wrote...

Again, nothing to do with suspension of disbelief. Nor am I unfamiliar with the "faceless character" trope, nor are are you the first person in this thread to even point it out.  Thanks for being pedantic and assuming I'm retarded though, that's always charming.

So, are you miffed at all the bajillion other instances of the trope?  If so, OK. I can respect consistency.  If not, why not?

Admittedly, it's more of a forum-centric thing than existing strictly in the game, it's just the fact that it is considered to be such a "juicy" potential reveal. No one really gave a **** what Charlie Brown's teacher looked like, or Kenny from South Park. Or at least I didn't. And for the record, I don't really give a **** what Tali looks like either. But yes, in general, I think it is a stupid trope across the board. Something everyone in the story knows, but the audience doesn't because the creators have deliberately kept it from them, is a lazy and artificial way to build a mystery. It's arbirtary to the extreme, and while "miffed" is still stronger than I would describe my feelings, I do feel it is dumb.

Not to single you out, but I've said as much in the thread already. People seem to be assuming that I'm too stupid to "suspend my disbelief" (like I would have got 10 minutes into the game if I couldn't do that) and ignoring any evidence to the contrary because they like to be c-words on the internet.

[didymos1120]

outlaworacle wrote...

Something everyone in the story knows, but the audience doesn't because the creators have deliberately kept it from them, is a lazy and artificial way to build a mystery. It's arbirtary to the extreme, and while "miffed" is still stronger than I would describe my feelings, I do feel it is dumb.

I don't think they ever intended it as a mystery. I don't think it even is a mystery in any meaningful sense that applies to fiction.  There is absolutely zero plot relevance to quarian facial physiognomy.  It matters for nothing.  I think they just wanted to have some aliens in cool suits that resembled their rogue AI creations, and came up with a design and a justification.  I mean, I'm sure they realized people would wonder, and they liked the enigmatic vibe, but I don't think it was ever a goal.  Then people got all obsessed with the "What do they look like?" thing and they decided to toy with them a bit come ME2.  I thought them not showing her face if you romanced her was pretty damn funny, actually. 

Not to single you out, but I've said as much in the thread already. People seem to be assuming that I'm too stupid to "suspend my disbelief" (like I would have got 10 minutes into the game if I couldn't do that) and ignoring any evidence to the contrary because they like to be c-words on the internet.

I wasn't assuming that.  I just wanted to know why (as it seemed) this particular instance was a problem, but others weren't.

Modifié par didymos1120, 08 janvier 2011 - 04:45 .

[InvincibleHero]

Well they share dna similarities with turians given if you listen to the convo in the Illium nightclub. They also have three fingers and are thin. I would guess they are scaled and either snake-like or lizard-like in appearnace. You do see large lidless eyes through the suit and oddly a human-like nose.