150 réponses à ce sujet

[TheBRADLeyB]

Sorry there is no general ME3 Discussion thread so... here we go.

I was looking through some threads about who people want to have return as far as Squadmates and I  randomly thought of Jacob... And how almost everyone hates him.

I personally didn't like Jacob. I had no connection to him. I didn't care for his abilities (Pull, Cerberus Agent and Incendiary Ammo) nor his Special Ability (Barrier). I found his Loyalty mission to be pretty boring as well. Not to mention Jacob is a human which makes him boring when compared to a... Drell or Quarian.

(I never think any character should have the ability to have special ammo, it just screws with everything else. Ammo should be a weapon upgrade)

So Anyway, I've been thinking and I think what Jacob needs to be better liked in ME3 is to be destroyed. Much like Shepard was destroyed and rebuilt by Cerberus. Here is what I'm thinking. Jacob ends up on a Cerberus mission that results in him being killed by an early skirmish with the new Reaper force and Cerberus obtains his body to get the intel he acquired. Cerberus however doesn't want to invest the money they put into Shepard and that time being of the essence they rush the job, focusing mainly on his brain they cut corners on the rest of his body replacing it with robotic pieces. Like a metal arm much like in 'Terminator 2: Judgement Day' (this will at least make him look cooler)

Now because Cerberus was so rushed in their reconstruction and Jacob is literally half a man he is upset and angry at Cerberus (but they however hold the key to him living and he confides in Shepard that he wasn't a fan of death). With that BioWare could write some interesting anti-Cerberus dialog (which may make Jacob more liked by the Anti Cerberus crowd) and constantly give Shepard the feeling he is teetering on revenge on Cerberus.

On a joking side Jacob's Loyalty mission would be a trip to Batteries +/- where Jacob gets a longer lasting battery for his heart and other body mechanisms.

So just a random though. I'm sure by now the story lines are actually finished but just a random thought. How's everyone else feel?

[The Spamming Troll]

this is a spoiler? i think one lazarus project is enough.

[PiEman]

Give him a priiiize.

[Da_Lion_Man]

I like Jacob. He's the only squad member who isn't bat**** crazy. That alone makes me appreciate him.

I do hope I get to see more of him in ME3. Would be sad if Bioware gave in on the haters.

Modifié par Da_Lion_Man, 08 janvier 2011 - 01:06 .

[TheBRADLeyB]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

this is a spoiler? i think one lazarus project is enough.

I guess it's not a spoiler, unless you don't know in ME2 that Shepard is brought back to life. But I never know I suppose.

But see that's the key, one Lazarus project is enough, so Jacob doesn't get the real Lazarus project but an extremely watered down and less expensive (although expensive in it's own right no matter what) Jacob isn't as bad as Shepard's body was, which is why he feels abandoned and rejected for not getting the full restoration and he just thinks Cerberus shorted him, but on the other hand he is thankful for all that Cerberus has done. But knowing the full effects and seeing the awesome job they did on Shepard he feels disrespected I guess.

I don't know, I just think it would make Jacob a lot more interesting to talk to for those who didn't kill him off (especially on purpose)

[Tribbleofdoom]

The solution to any problem is to turn said problem into a cyborg.

[cachx]

Tribbleofdoom wrote...

The solution to any problem is to turn said problem into a cyborg.

Kojima did it, so can Bioware.

Cyborg ninja Jacob for ME3 !

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

To be fair Jacob had his own set of issues to deal with in ME2.Hopefully in ME3 they let him show more personality.

[naledgeborn]

I'm actually looking foward to seeing Jacob again because of all the flak he's caught EVERYWHERE. Maybe BW will go the extra mile and we'll get 2-3 Jacobs depending on the outcome of his Loyalty mission. Sort of how Garrus took a level up in badassery.

[primero holodon]

No. just No. I'm already a little Miffed at the fact that Shepard was resurected. I would rather like to forget the whole thing.

[ExplosiveMage]

Whats with all the Jacob hate? He seems like a good guy lol...i liked Jacob...serious dude who respects what I do and does his job well...id like to see him back and in fact expect him and Miranda to return

[TheNexus]

In any Jacob thread, I'm required to post this:

www.youtube.com/watch

[samurai crusade]

Want to fix Jacob... here's how. An epic mission in which Shepard and Jacob get in a fighter... and draw upon Jacob's Corsair history... and fly through a mission shooting up a Reaper. This gives fans an epic battle where they can control a ship (some fans want control of the Normandy... bad idea... this is better). And... we have more respect for Jacob so long as there is more to learn about him.

[MajesticJazz]

Bioware doesn't need to fix Jacob. There is nothing wrong with him. If gamers cannot get behind the fact that Jacob is Jacob and will not be who "they want him to be" then that isn' Bioware's fault.

[samurai crusade]

I did enjoy Jacob though. I think his Corsair background will really play to the events of ME3... I'm calling it now!

[ShadyKat]

cachx wrote...

Tribbleofdoom wrote...

The solution to any problem is to turn said problem into a cyborg.

Kojima did it, so can Bioware.

Cyborg ninja Jacob for ME3 !

Only one problem, Raiden still sucked.

[Xerxes52]

I thought Jacob was fine for the most part (i.e. seemed like the only "normal" person on the team).



Should have had an Assault Rifle and Shotgun though.

[Annihilator27]

TheNexus wrote...

In any Jacob thread, I'm required to post this:

www.youtube.com/watch

You need the better version, That remix!!!

[Had-to-say]

Jacob is a loyal companion. He doesn't have much drama but he does have farther issues. As a solider he seems functional. Maybe they should show the ways he tries to come to grip with his father's treason for more drama. Jacob seems like a goody goody maybe he is too good. Thus the problem with his character. Face wise he reminds me of Kayne West or Michael Jai White. I happen to like his character. They could have given us a really bad stereotype instead lol. That would surely upset fans or maybe not. I can easily see Jacob taking a bullet or juming on a grenade for my Shepard as a form of atonement for his father's lack of morality. Which would be really tragic for such a noble character.

Captain Anderson also has many noble qualities. Did Jacob and Miranda do the nasty? I think other NPC having sex could really add that drama that Jacob seems to be lacking. Where is our ships William Riker? I always got the impression Will was banging aliens. Jacob is fine the way he is. He isn't too vanilla for me.

Modifié par Had-to-say, 08 janvier 2011 - 07:02 .

[Shotokanguy]

Jacob was just...there. They can fix him by just giving him some reason for being there.

[Kloreep]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

He's the only squad member who isn't bat**** crazy.

Yeah, I think that actually is his "problem."

Basically, Jacob is Shepard. Except with a whole he-saved-the-Citadel instead of she-saved-the-galaxy thing. He's just an unabashed hero without much in the way of personal problems. (There is his loyalty mission, but he seems incredibly capable of taking it in stride, or at least keeping it inside.) It's a good mold for a player character like Shepard, to give the player some room to define Shepard. But it doesn't make for a very interesting party member, not when he's going to get compared to an ethically challenged genius on
caffeine, an assassin, Batman, a monk/warrior...

I am hoping to see him again too. Aside from Joker, he was about the only one wearing a Cerberus uniform I actually felt I could trust.

I think SpartanJLC is right. No need for anything drastic, just let him show a bit more personality. Given how tight-lipped he's shown himself to be, I'm not sure how that would happen while feeling authentic, but hey, they have a good writing team; I'm sure they can think of something.

I suppose one way to go might be to give Jacob his own command of some sort. He does seem to be in an awfully low position in the Normandy command structure - third string at most, and it's hard to tell if he even ranks that with the loose integration of all the squadmates - compared to what he's capable of.

[PiEman]

ShadyKat wrote...

cachx wrote...

Tribbleofdoom wrote...

The solution to any problem is to turn said problem into a cyborg.

Kojima did it, so can Bioware.

Cyborg ninja Jacob for ME3 !

Only one problem, Raiden still sucked.

Hold your blasphemous tongue or have it CUT FROM YOUR **** MOUTH!

[lazuli]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

To be fair Jacob had his own set of issues to deal with in ME2.Hopefully in ME3 they let him show more personality.

Part of his personality is that he doesn't like to "show more personality."  He deals with his issues privately.  He's a professional.

And to the original poster, I don't like your idea at all.  I do appreciate, though, that you took a different path instead of wholeheartedly jumping aboard the "Jacob is boring" bandwagon.

Modifié par lazuli, 08 janvier 2011 - 06:28 .