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Will the graphics be a step up from Dragon Age:Origins?


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errant_knight wrote...

I was talking about the flatness, not the layering. To me, the picture on the left looks flatter in every sense. Regarding whether it's a fair comparision, these are the images we have and what people are comparing verbally, so I don't see the unfairness. It's just an illustration of the conversation.


You're looking at massive armour versus what might be medium armour. That isn't a good comparison.

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The Sebastian trailer did not impress me graphically. It looked less like deliberate stylization and more like, "Man, that guy needs more face texture." IMO.



The arrowing of the piece of paper was neat, though.

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I don't even know how to start describing how wrong you are.


Ah yes because those things totally aren't personal interpretation! :o

Oh noes you must be right! There's no way it'll be better to some people and worse to others no way! IMPOSSIBLE! 

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They've only started the polishing stages I'd assume, everything is done now time to make it look better. Two months is longer than you think and by the time it's done I'm sure it'll look great.

QFT.

I take it no one listened to the devs when they said the last few months were when they began to polish everything (textures, animations, and such).

You can't just work on a game right up until launch and still have time to distribute it.  At some point it goes in the can, bugs and all.

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In Exile wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

I was talking about the flatness, not the layering. To me, the picture on the left looks flatter in every sense. Regarding whether it's a fair comparision, these are the images we have and what people are comparing verbally, so I don't see the unfairness. It's just an illustration of the conversation.


You're looking at massive armour versus what might be medium armour. That isn't a good comparison.

Okay.... And the jpg of Alistair was lower resolution than the picture of Hawke, both on the screen (IMO) and in the jpg (definitely)

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Modifié par errant_knight, 08 janvier 2011 - 08:25 .


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I seem to recall a newer screenshot where Hawke's starting armor (non-exaggerated) looks quite a bit better than that strange leathery looking plate.

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you mean with the warden like armor? Yeah where is that shot? That armor was quite pretty.

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filaminstrel wrote...

I seem to recall a newer screenshot where Hawke's starting armor (non-exaggerated) looks quite a bit better than that strange leathery looking plate.

Really? I don't recall that. Can you find it? Because it there's better, then it really isn't fair to compare against this one. If it's the same armor. If not, this is still valid.

Modifié par errant_knight, 08 janvier 2011 - 08:28 .


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I prefer Hawke's armor compared to Aliatair's from a model point of view, don't see a lot of difference in details.:unsure:

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I haven't read all the replys. However I do recall that some of the people didn't like how Dragon Age Orgins looked so they did indeed improve the graphics engine not that you need it. We can't tell this from a list of screen shots which game in graphics is better

However whenever a game remmonds that your PC setting be at least with a 460 video card. That's a good sign of things to come. Personally I own a 580 GTX. I want to see every trickle of detail that comes out to play. However I do remember that the devs said the graphics will be improved massively, so think of orgins on roids.

Though we can debate this back and forth. Aside from youtube videos showing little clips no one can be certain expect to quote what the devs have already said

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You don't see a difference in how three dimensional it looks, or the way light refracts off it?

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hhh89 wrote...

I prefer Hawke's armor compared to Aliatair's from a model point of view, don't see a lot of difference in details.:unsure:


The main difference is in lighting - there isn't any in the DA2 screenshot...it is an old build though. But then, there wasn't much lighting to speak of in the new trailer either.

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I think this issue with the low resolution looking textures is strictly because we're looking at the Xbox360 version of the game.



The game will look much better on the PC.

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errant_knight wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

I seem to recall a newer screenshot where Hawke's starting armor (non-exaggerated) looks quite a bit better than that strange leathery looking plate.

Really? I don't recall that. Can you find it?


Nope. ;_;

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Busomjack wrote...

I think this issue with the low resolution looking textures is strictly because we're looking at the Xbox360 version of the game.

The game will look much better on the PC.


:o

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filaminstrel wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...
I seem to recall a newer screenshot where Hawke's starting armor (non-exaggerated) looks quite a bit better than that strange leathery looking plate.

Really? I don't recall that. Can you find it?

Nope. ;_;

Brockololly posted it IIRC. Was this the armour?

Modifié par axa89, 08 janvier 2011 - 08:59 .


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axa89 wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...
I seem to recall a newer screenshot where Hawke's starting armor (non-exaggerated) looks quite a bit better than that strange leathery looking plate.

Really? I don't recall that. Can you find it?

Nope. ;_;

Brockololly posted it IIRC. Was this the armour?

That...does the argument that DA2 armors are as good or better no favors, and the lighting is so poor.... I think I better just ignore it as I think bringing that shot into the discussion really might be unfair.

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errant_knight wrote...
That...does the argument that DA2 armors are as good or better no favors, and the lighting is so poor.... I think I better just ignore it as I think bringing that shot into the discussion really might be unfair.

The lighting is bad because it's a photo of a screen displaying the game.
Anyway, this is not the same screen Brockololly posted.

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errant_knight wrote...
That...does the argument that DA2 armors are as good or better no favors, and the lighting is so poor.... I think I better just ignore it as I think bringing that shot into the discussion really might be unfair.


Your milleage varies, I suppose. I think it drives a stake through the heart of the argument completely, with the improved templar armour looking better than the DA:O equivalent and Hawke's armour being so many times better than any DA:O suit it's really incomparable.

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filaminstrel wrote...

The Sebastian trailer did not impress me graphically. It looked less like deliberate stylization and more like, "Man, that guy needs more face texture." IMO.

The arrowing of the piece of paper was neat, though.


Exactly my thoughts, the mouth moved but the rest of the face seemed expressionless, even the lip synching was slightly off. Wooden is the word I'd use for it sadly

Modifié par Blakes 7, 08 janvier 2011 - 09:43 .


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[zoom in to see the crappy textures and no lighting]

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Modifié par DarthCaine, 08 janvier 2011 - 09:46 .


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DarthCaine wrote...

Can you honestly say, this armor looks good?

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yes, but i'm biased towards white armor with golden linings, not that it matters much.

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

yes, but i'm biased towards white armor with golden linings, not that it matters much.

I'm not talking about the color and crap. Just zoom in to see the crappy textures and where the heck is the lighting?

Modifié par DarthCaine, 08 janvier 2011 - 09:45 .


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I believe this is the screenshot you are looking for?
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Mind you, it was taken off of a TV screen at a convention I believe. It looks better than some of the armor, but still the disparity in textures between the heads and the armor is striking in almost every screen we've seen.

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Brockololly wrote...

Mind you, it was taken off of a TV screen at a convention I believe. It looks better than some of the armor, but still the disparity in textures between the heads and the armor is striking in almost every screen we've seen.

That looks good IMO, as do some other screenshots with Hawke only armor. However the new trailer is just filled with crappy low res textures

Modifié par DarthCaine, 08 janvier 2011 - 09:47 .