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[ViSeiRa]

Nope, what you need to do is import your character from Witch Hunt to GOA and finish it and then the GOA last save is the one you should import to DA2.

You can also make sure by checking the size of the last (autosave) in Witch Hunt and the first save in GOA, after import they should be nearly identical with GOA's saves increasing in size the more you progress......

All saves contain the decisions of the module they were imported from... so Awakening saves have Origins decisions and in your case Witch Hunt has both Awakening and Origins decisions and then GOA will have all decisions from the previous three modules.

Also as a side note the best order to play the game is this: Origins -> Awakening -> GOA -> Witch Hunt.... but it's not forced on you, as long as you can import from Witch Hunt to GOA (haven't tried it) you should be fine.

Modifié par ViSeirA, 08 janvier 2011 - 02:33 .

[ViSeiRa]

Tough luck, you should be fine the way you're going to do it now, Witch Hunt is about 1-2 hours anyway so I think you can go through it fairly quickly after finishing GOA.

[Arthur Cousland]

Witch Hunt and GoA are both around 2 hours long, not counting reloads in GoA. As long as you have some Awakening save to upload, it shouldn't take long.

[marshalleck]

Doctor-Chalmers wrote...

I didn't think you could do that because somebody else on the forums implied that you couldn't import from WH to GOA (and because of the chronological errors), but that does make things a lot easier and yet does make a lot of sense given that DA2 logically shouldn't judge the order you ticked boxes in DAO and its spawn, merely whether or not you ticked boxes x, y, and z.

Thanks for your advice.
GOA is about to finish downloading, so I'll check whether or not you can import from Witch Hunt to GOA.

Edit: You can't import from Witch Hunt to Golems. 
Only from Golems to Witch Hunt. 

Oh well. 

So, I'm going to make a backup of all my save files and then delete my Witch Hunt data from Dragon Age.
Then I'll import from Awakenings to Golems, then Golems to Witch Hunt. Hopefully it'll all work out. 

If anybody's got any words of warning or advice to the contrary, please don't hesitate to say.

I've been mulling over downloading Golemns just because of all the drama surrounding the supposed difficulty of the last boss. Not that this helps you much, but thanks to this post I now know the best order to take my newest Warden through the game with a minimum of hassle. Thanks. :happy:

[DavidSims]

You import a single save file into DA2. If you want to know what data is being imported, trace that save game back to its genesis; that is when you created a new character. If you created an Orlesian Warden then that is a new character and the genesis of a save game. There is no import history for such a save game. An Origins save game imported into Awakening does however have a full history of Origins decisions.



If you took your end of Awakening save and imported it into Golems, then took your Awakening save and imported it into Witch Hunt, the new Golems save game would have no knowledge of Witch Hunt data and the Witch hunt save would have no knowledge of the Golems data. You must import your save games in a single chain tracing all the way back to origins to be able to import all data (Origins->Awakening->Golems->Witch Hunt).



Think of the decision data like an item in your inventory. Jokes aside about DLC items and Awakening imports, imagine you got an item at the same time you made the decision and never disposed of it. If the item would be in your inventory in the save file you import into DA2, then the decision will be imported. If the item wouldn't be there because it's in a different branch of your save game tree, then it will not be imported. There is no world state/decision tracking on a per character basis that transcends individual save files.

[RogueWriter3201]

This *might* seem like a foolish question, but, as someone who hasn't been able to pick up the DLCs yet (I know, I know. Trust me, it's not for lack of wanting to) I was curious as to where Leliana's Song fits into all this? I know it's essentially a standalone module that really only covers her time before the events of Origins, but, does that bit of DLC factor into this whole Save -> Import deal?

[KennethAFTopp]

By importing a single save file into DA2 does that mean that every Hawke you make will have the same Save file background?

[SammyJB17]

glenboy24 wrote...

This *might* seem like a foolish question, but, as someone who hasn't been able to pick up the DLCs yet (I know, I know. Trust me, it's not for lack of wanting to) I was curious as to where Leliana's Song fits into all this? I know it's essentially a standalone module that really only covers her time before the events of Origins, but, does that bit of DLC factor into this whole Save -> Import deal?

It wouldn't matter if it did. Leliana's Song didn't have any decisions, since the events had already happened as Leliana said. That being said, it's still a fun time and I thought it was definitely worth it.

[Shiratori]

KennethAFTopp wrote...

By importing a single save file into DA2 does that mean that every Hawke you make will have the same Save file background?

No because importing kicks in when you start a new game.  Each time I start a new game, I'm given the choice to import a save from the DA1 games or simply choose one of the 3 "Histories" as if I never owned DAO.  So each time you start a new game, you can choose a whole differeing Origins story to bring over (which is my plan).

[cephasjames]

DavidSims wrote...

You must import your save games in a single chain tracing all the way back to origins to be able to import all data (Origins->Awakening->Golems->Witch Hunt).

Is this posted anywhere, like the FAQ? Because this is the first time I, as an infequent gawker, have seen it difinitively stated that this is the order to play in order to have everything imorted correctly.

[BTCentral]

cephasjames wrote...

Because this is the first time I have seen it difinitively stated that this is the order to play in order to have everything imorted correctly.

Same here, I *think* I did mine in the wrong order though.
Origins -> Golems -> Witch Hunt ... Awakening
                     |-------------------------------^

As if I recall correctly, my Witch Hunt Save would not import into Awakening, but Golems did.

I'll probably just take my Awakening save and do Golems and Witch Hunt again just incase.

Modifié par BTCentral, 10 janvier 2011 - 10:16 .

[KennethAFTopp]

Shiratori wrote...

KennethAFTopp wrote...

By importing a single save file into DA2 does that mean that every Hawke you make will have the same Save file background?

No because importing kicks in when you start a new game.  Each time I start a new game, I'm given the choice to import a save from the DA1 games or simply choose one of the 3 "Histories" as if I never owned DAO.  So each time you start a new game, you can choose a whole differeing Origins story to bring over (which is my plan).

That was also my first impression.

[Mikka-chan]

cephasjames wrote...
]Is this posted anywhere, like the FAQ? Because this is the first time I, as an infequent gawker, have seen it difinitively stated that this is the order to play in order to have everything imorted correctly.

I don't think it is, but it's the order that those DLC's came out and the order that the events actually 'should' have happened by date.  You can tell a bit by importation- you can't really import a Witch Hunt save in to the others, I think.  Having said that, from what he said, as long as you keep following the importation chain (it's all one character, being imported), you should be fine.  If you do Origins and then Golems then Awakening, as long as you can import your Origins character in to Golems then that same character in to Awakening, you should be okay.  If the Golems character can't be imported in to Awakening, then one would have a problem.


This does seem to confirm that you can only import one data: you can't import your Warden who made the Ultimate Sacrifice *and* your Orlesian Warden who did Awakening->Golems->Witch Hunt.  It was expected, as your Ultimate Sacrifice couldn't be imported properly in to Awakenings, but I sort of wished it would have worked anyway.  Ah well.

(I wonder, if you do choose to import an Orlesian, will it take Default Dark Ritual Warden's information for anything involving the Gray Warden, or the Dalish Elf Ultimate Sacrifice default?  Hm.)

[randle94]

Don't suppose anyone knows but, what will happen if I import an Origins save only? what will happen in regards to the events which would occur if I imported an awakening save ( Amarantine/wardens keep ect)?

[Shiratori]

Likely the same thing as Mass Effect 2. There are default game states. If your import doesn't include decisions that would affect those states, the default is chosen.

[Maria Caliban]

Is there any way to import decisions from Origins and Awakening *and* have DA 2 acknowledge the ultimate sacrifice ending?

That is, if I do the US, import into Awakening, and then import into DA 2, will the game remember that the warden is dead or will it decide the dark ritual was performed?

[thesuperdarkone]

Shiratori wrote...

Likely the same thing as Mass Effect 2. There are default game states. If your import doesn't include decisions that would affect those states, the default is chosen.

 

Knowing Bioware, they'll probably put all the bad decisions like all companions are dead and no Vigilance:pinched:

[TJPags]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Is there any way to import decisions from Origins and Awakening *and* have DA 2 acknowledge the ultimate sacrifice ending?

That is, if I do the US, import into Awakening, and then import into DA 2, will the game remember that the warden is dead or will it decide the dark ritual was performed?

I'm pretty sure I've read that, with this issue, the Origins flag will over-ride the Awakening flag.  So that yes, DA2 will recognize the US, and treat everything else as if done by an Orlesian Warden.

[commanderVal]

(snip)
nothing to say

Modifié par commanderVal, 16 janvier 2011 - 01:01 .

[deuce985]

Can we get this stickied? I'm sure a lot of people are confused on how save files will translate to DA2 and I bet they have plenty of people who imported wrong as I originally did. This post clarified everything for me from Bioware...

[PirateT138]

Not directly, but you could import characters who did not perform the ritual (should be dead as a door nail). Implying that performing the ritual was the default.

[Bryy_Miller]

thesuperdarkone wrote...

Shiratori wrote...

Likely the same thing as Mass Effect 2. There are default game states. If your import doesn't include decisions that would affect those states, the default is chosen.

 

Knowing Bioware, they'll probably put all the bad decisions like all companions are dead and no Vigilance:pinched:

The three defaults of DA2 are wildly varied.

[snfonseka]

DavidSims wrote...

You import a single save file into DA2. If you want to know what data is being imported, trace that save game back to its genesis; that is when you created a new character. If you created an Orlesian Warden then that is a new character and the genesis of a save game. There is no import history for such a save game. An Origins save game imported into Awakening does however have a full history of Origins decisions.

If you took your end of Awakening save and imported it into Golems, then took your Awakening save and imported it into Witch Hunt, the new Golems save game would have no knowledge of Witch Hunt data and the Witch hunt save would have no knowledge of the Golems data. You must import your save games in a single chain tracing all the way back to origins to be able to import all data (Origins->Awakening->Golems->Witch Hunt).

Think of the decision data like an item in your inventory. Jokes aside about DLC items and Awakening imports, imagine you got an item at the same time you made the decision and never disposed of it. If the item would be in your inventory in the save file you import into DA2, then the decision will be imported. If the item wouldn't be there because it's in a different branch of your save game tree, then it will not be imported. There is no world state/decision tracking on a per character basis that transcends individual save files.

What he is saying that if you import:
A to B
and
A to C

that B does not have knowledge about C and C does not have any knowledge about B.

But if you import:
A to B to C
or
A to C to B

Both C and B know the existence of each other.

Modifié par snfonseka, 19 janvier 2011 - 04:19 .