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[Selenora]

Chignon wrote...

Another poll and Kaidan is in need of some votes.

Voted

[Renessa]

/delurking

Wow - you already cracked the 100 page barrier! Congrats!

Aslanasadi wrote...

I think it would be interesting to that they are "forced" to help each other...or that Kadian would help Shepard to get out of trouble one time. Oh, and I don't mean her being a damsel in distress...I thought more about something funny, even so I know this are just my personal wishes, because I love funny things

I must admit, I would love some humour when Shep and Kaidan finally reunite (and they will reunite!). I don't know, perhaps they stumble over each other during a mission, Shep working for herself and Kaidan working for the Alliance and there are after the same thing and have to somehow work together or something like that. Kaidan has a very dry sense of humour in ME, but it hardly ever comes through in the love scenes.

None of my Sheps would want Kaidan to grovel for forgiveness. Sophia (Paragon to the bone) totally agrees with Kaidan about Cerberus, she was just too stunned to tell him so on Horizon and Judith might want to shout at him a little bit, but actually, she was quite impressed that Kaidan finally stood up to her and anyway he looked soo sexy...

[Nightodie]

@ Caradore & Renessa Welcome (I'm at work, so I will post som links & an official welcome in the morning... But they are also in my sig.


@ Renessa please refer to Pacifien's Rules on the first page regarding page counts, thank you.


As for ME3... I like a lot of the suggestions so far, of course I am kind of partial to Sesh's Idea of nekkid Kaidan... I mean really... That @ Caradore & Renessa Welcome (I'm at work, so I will post som links & an official welcome in the morning... But they are also in my sig.


@ Renessa please refer to Pacifien's Rules on the first page regarding page counts, thank you.


As for ME3... I like a lot of the suggestions so far, of course I am kind of partial to Sesh's Idea of nekkid Kaidan... I mean really... That Booty!!!






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Modifié par Nightodie, 07 février 2011 - 06:49 .

[sapphyreelf]

[catabuca]

Elysis wrote...

 @SilentK : Be careful though, once you go renegade, you never go back 

Ha! This, totally.

Actually, I'm a paragade/renagon fan, and not a fan of all out 100% renegade (where you have to choose racist options). But my current ME1 Shep, Mark (who I'm playing solely for the 'Ash lives' save game to import to ME3), is pretty damn badass, his renegade meter is a good 75% full atm (done Feros, currently on Noveria, picked up Liara, not done Virmire). An earth-born Torfan hero, he takes no crap from anyone, but is respectful (mostly) to superiors. Apart from that guy who wanted to do an inspection of the Normandy. He hates that guy.

He's not racist, but takes a pragmatic approach to working with aliens. He is wary of blindly believing they are our friends, because he's seen a lot of **** serving in the military and he knows that to go around blindly believing anything is a surefire way to get a bullet in the back. But he recognises the bigger picture, and knows that when a galaxy is at stake (I that renegade Shep always talks with such bravado about saving the galaxy, it's so cheesy ) allies come in all shapes and sizes. If pushed to make a declaration of how he really feels, he'd probably agree with Kaidan's assessment that aliens are jerks and saints just like us. Mark Shepard is an equal opportunities badass - he'll tear you a new one regardless of how many fingers on one hand you've got.

(Phew, I managed to keep this on topic with a sneaky reference to Kaidan )

[SilentK]

PopDisaster wrote...

SilentK wrote...

I'm quite curious of how Shepard and Kaidan will move forward in ME3.

On one hand Horizon didn't leave my Shepard skipping happily back to her ship but one another level I'm quite intrigued by how they choose to put some distance between Shepard and his/her ME LI in ME2. Prior to this I played DA and I think the LI of that game are well written and feel very much like different characters. That game plays out under a shorter time span so after you bedded ( or got them in the tent ) there isn't much progression on the part of the relationship. Ok, you can bed Zevran and Morrigan early in the game but there isn't anywhere near the situation of Shepard and Kaidan.

Think about it, over the span of ME1 you fell in love and defeated Saren. The beginning of ME2 sees Kaidan lose the woman he loves, then apparently she comes back from the dead working for what previously was a enemy. In ME3 we'll get some way to see how your Shepard and Kaidan choose to move on from this point. This is quite different from the old " You have now succeeded to woo me, let's tumble"  (don't get me wrong, I love DA to bits). However painful it is in ME2 I'm happy to see where this goes in ME3, this is the last game so different endings can go in very different directions. This is Bioware so I'm very hopeful and expect to see a good plot.

Hmm.... as much as I would like a VS-dlc, I wouldn't want to resolve it completely with Kaidan over just a mission. Let this relationship grow slowly and it will be all the sweeter for it. Maybe just a way to explain yourself a bit, hear him out how he coped with those two years. Fully expect Bioware to play my heartstrings like a harp   <3   

A lot of people on here seem to want Kaidan/Shep to work through their differences and talk things out first... from my point of view, Horizon wasn't that big a deal... Couples fight all the time and I saw it as just that. Kaidan has already apologized....Ok, a formal apology might be good. And Shep is no longer with Cerberus. The only thing I see them really needing to talk about is her death. And then, maybe not even that. I'm in the school of thought that thinks that sometime after Horizon, he finds out what really happened to her (like getting access to all the Cerberus data on her ressurection somehow). And after learing this, I don't see him wanting to bring it up right away... "Hey Shep, you died and then experiements were performed on you for 2 years by a terriorist org. Want to talk about it?" I just don't see it likely. (And things aren't going to be worked out over several missions - Especially w/ the immeadiate threat of the Reapers.)

It just seems to me that there isn't a lot to "work out." I think there needs to be a conversation where Shep either says she still has feelings or not and whether or not she wants to continue the relationship. Because it's pretty clear to me that Kaidan still has feelings and wants to continue things.

Now, if Shep went with someone else in ME2, then that needs to recognized.

Hey     always fun to see things from another prespective. I guess that just because my husband and I are much into talking about things I transfer that into how I see my shepard reacting to situations. But this is the fun things about forum, you discuss things and see how others view it. I could really see them having a big discussion and talking things trough but it's all theories and fantasies until the game and dlc comes out       Hmmm.... I would like to see them work at it a bit but that's just from my point of view. But then I've always been supertalkative. Guess we just have to wait and see how bioware sees it   

[Jenova65]

I've only done one renegade play through and that made me twitch, was so happy to go back to being a goody two shoes! So I guess you can go back............... ;-)

I seriously feel *uncomfortable* playing renegade, I don't enjoy it. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with standing up and being counted and heck, I do it plenty IRL but the way they write renegade Shepard just comes off sounding like a rotten person sometimes.

I would prefer that so much didn't hinge on being one or the other cos there are some renegade choices I like and some paragon choices that make think that BioWare think you don't mind being walked over if you are a paragon..........

[catabuca]

On the VS DLC topic, I'm in two minds about whether us not getting it would be a bad thing or not.

On the one hand, it'll certainly sting, and be just another snub - I can't see it in any other context than 'well, Liara got her own DLC/bridging story'. So if we don't get VS DLC, it will be really hard for me to not see it as some sort of confirmation that the VS just isn't as important as Liara.

On the other hand, I still have faith in the devs' words that they wanted the VS to be alive in ME3 (hence why you couldn't recruit them in 2). If there isn't VS DLC, it could honestly be because there are plans for them in ME3 that a bridging story would ruin or confuse. Like, for example, the story of Shep and Kai/Ash's reunion and reconciliation forms a major mission plot point in the main game of 3. In that case, it would be right from a writing pov to save them for the main game.

Even if the latter is the case, I'll still be pissed if the last piece of DLC isn't VS-oriented somehow. If we hadn't had LotSB I know I wouldn't feel as strongly about that.

[catabuca]

Jenova65 wrote...

I've only done one renegade play through and that made me twitch, was so happy to go back to being a goody two shoes! So I guess you can go back............... ;-)
I seriously feel *uncomfortable* playing renegade, I don't enjoy it. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with standing up and being counted and heck, I do it plenty IRL but the way they write renegade Shepard just comes off sounding like a rotten person sometimes.
I would prefer that so much didn't hinge on being one or the other cos there are some renegade choices I like and some paragon choices that make think that BioWare think you don't mind being walked over if you are a paragon..........

It's far harder to be a renegade in ME2, imo. Apart from the racist options (which I never choose), the ME1 renegade choices were merely taking a no-nonsense, hard line and pragmatic approach to the situation (and, imo, it's certainly possible for a renegade Shep to be 'good' morally).

In ME2, however, the renegade choices have Shep come across as a complete turd. A self-obsessed, non-thinking jerk who doesn't care about anyone. Well, that's the impression I get anyway. I have a far harder time being renegade in ME2 ... and perhaps that's also because I really, really hate Cerberus and so many of the renegade options mean siding with them (in convos with TIM, at any rate).

So I have no problem being a non-racist renegade in ME1, but in ME2 my Sheps veer more to the side of paragade, with the slightest hint of renagon at best (or worst).

[mineralica]

In ME1 I didn't like the renegade way to handle Feros. Colonists are so easy kicked down with gas, so justification "they can hurt me!" sounds poor. Of course, Shepard can be just out of grenades, but there is a grenade box at main square... Feeling that two squaddies with Shep, in fact, just killed bystanders also doesn't make me feel good.

In ME2 several renegade actions are super dumb (selling Legion as an example), but in general I felt easier to be a renegade. Maybe because my morality compass stayed in ME1?

[Jenova65]

catabuca wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

I've only done one renegade play through and that made me twitch, was so happy to go back to being a goody two shoes! So I guess you can go back............... ;-)
I seriously feel *uncomfortable* playing renegade, I don't enjoy it. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with standing up and being counted and heck, I do it plenty IRL but the way they write renegade Shepard just comes off sounding like a rotten person sometimes.
I would prefer that so much didn't hinge on being one or the other cos there are some renegade choices I like and some paragon choices that make think that BioWare think you don't mind being walked over if you are a paragon..........

It's far harder to be a renegade in ME2, imo. Apart from the racist options (which I never choose), the ME1 renegade choices were merely taking a no-nonsense, hard line and pragmatic approach to the situation (and, imo, it's certainly possible for a renegade Shep to be 'good' morally).

In ME2, however, the renegade choices have Shep come across as a complete turd. A self-obsessed, non-thinking jerk who doesn't care about anyone. Well, that's the impression I get anyway. I have a far harder time being renegade in ME2 ... and perhaps that's also because I really, really hate Cerberus and so many of the renegade options mean siding with them (in convos with TIM, at any rate).

So I have no problem being a non-racist renegade in ME1, but in ME2 my Sheps veer more to the side of paragade, with the slightest hint of renagon at best (or worst).

I find it easier in 2, lol! In ME Shepard often just sounds a bit stupid in ME when choosing renegade dialogue, where in two the renegade interrupts can actually be useful (think gunship )  
Just goes to show, how different we all are. Wouldn't do for us all to be alike, eh?  At least we all love Kaidan whatever flavour we choose!

[Jenova65]

mineralica wrote...

In ME1 I didn't like the renegade way to handle Feros. Colonists are so easy kicked down with gas, so justification "they can hurt me!" sounds poor. Of course, Shepard can be just out of grenades, but there is a grenade box at main square... Feeling that two squaddies with Shep, in fact, just killed bystanders also doesn't make me feel good.
In ME2 several renegade actions are super dumb (selling Legion as an example), but in general I felt easier to be a renegade. Maybe because my morality compass stayed in ME1?

WWKD? - What would Kaidan do? 

[Cypher0020]

Hey everyone... again



Ok, I know Shep is 3 years or so younger than Kaidan, but since I play Teddy as an Adept, it got me to thinking...



What do you think BaaT would have been like if Shep was there with Kaidan?



(I'm still trying to work out how Teddy trained her biotics in my headcanon)



Also, can your Shep relate to Kaidan IF biotic? I just got from the Wiki that human biotics are really, really, really rare,

[Jenova65]

Cypher0020 wrote...

Hey everyone... again

Ok, I know Shep is 3 years or so younger than Kaidan, but since I play Teddy as an Adept, it got me to thinking...

What do you think BaaT would have been like if Shep was there with Kaidan?

(I'm still trying to work out how Teddy trained her biotics in my headcanon)

Also, can your Shep relate to Kaidan IF biotic? I just got from the Wiki that human biotics are really, really, really rare,

I think my Shepard would have had an unrequited crush on him......  *remembers really liking a boy 3 years above* 
I actually think it is weird that there isn't a fair bit of specific dialogue if Shep is biotic and why Shep is so uninformed when talking to Dr Chakwas about Kaidan... 

Modifié par Jenova65, 07 février 2011 - 10:16 .

[Cypher0020]

Awwww! That's cute. See, I wouldn't have been afraid of Kaidan like that Rahna person...he was defending her!



Yeah....that convo with Chakwas is a little..w.eird...espeically if Shep has a higher quality implant.....I wanted more info on biotics, espceically if I'm one myself.....

[Sialater]

Persephone Rising is updated!  Chapter 20 has been posted.

[meonlyred]

Cypher0020 wrote...

Hey everyone... again

Ok, I know Shep is 3 years or so younger than Kaidan, but since I play Teddy as an Adept, it got me to thinking...

What do you think BaaT would have been like if Shep was there with Kaidan?

(I'm still trying to work out how Teddy trained her biotics in my headcanon)

Also, can your Shep relate to Kaidan IF biotic? I just got from the Wiki that human biotics are really, really, really rare,

I think things might have went a lot different. When Vyrnnus broke Rahna's arm I'm sure my paragon Shepard would have stood up to him to. But if it was Shepard's arm that Vyrnnus broke I wonder if Kaidan would have stood up for her. I like to think they would have a crush on each other. And I doubt Shepard would have stunned Kaidan like Rahna did. Would that mean Kaidan would not be as self controlled as we see him now?

Would make ME1 really interesting if they had meet on BAat then 15 years later meet again while serving on the Normandy.

[Melindil]

With the release of Evolution and the resulting discussions revolving around General Williams's possible involvement with Cerberus, I've been wondering if there would be any ways to have some sort of tie-in for Kaidan as well. It raised this question in my mind: could Conatix (and subsequently BAaT) have been somehow affiliated with Cerberus? And what would Kaidan's reaction to that be?

Whenever Kaidan discussed Conatix and BAaT, I always got the feeling that there was a lot more to it; that is, that there was some larger force driving the company and the program. I could never put my finger on it. After thinking about it though, it strikes me as something Cerberus would do. They would want to be on the ground floor of projects involving human biotics, considering how such things could be beneficial to the advancement and betterment of humanity. Even if Cerberus in its early years was not directly involved with Conatix and BAaT, I still get the impression that the organization would have been somehow involved, no matter how obliquely.

Modifié par Melindil, 07 février 2011 - 03:09 .

[FireEye]

Melindil wrote...

With the release of Evolution and the resulting discussions revolving around General Williams's possible involvement with Cerberus, I've been wondering if there would be any ways to have some sort of tie-in for Kaidan as well. It raised this question in my mind: could Conatix (and subsequently BAaT) have been somehow affiliated with Cerberus? And what would Kaidan's reaction to that be?

Whenever Kaidan discussed Conatix and BAaT, I always got the feeling that there was a lot more to it; that is, that there was some larger force driving the company and the program. I could never put my finger on it. After thinking about it though, it strikes me as something Cerberus would do. They would want to be on the ground floor of projects involving human biotics, considering how such things could be beneficial to the advancement and betterment of humanity. Even if Cerberus in its early years was not directly involved with Conatix and BAaT, I still get the impression that the organization would have been somehow involved, no matter how obliquely.

From conversations with Kaidan, I got the impression that it was the Alliance pushing for Conatix and BAaT, which is where I thought the "coming back to serve on his own terms" thing comes from.

Granted, in ME1 Cerberus originated within the Alliance, and since ME2 Cerberus has been shoved into all sorts of niches where it wasn't originally, so it could be.  Although Cerberus also wasn't the only company with weird human experiments going on, either.

If Cerberus was involved with BAaT, I suspect Kaidan would be less inclined to trust them than he already is, +/- a remark along the lines of, "Well, that figures, doesn't it...." 

[RGC_Ines]

catabuca wrote...

On the VS DLC topic, I'm in two minds about whether us not getting it would be a bad thing or not.
On the one hand, it'll certainly sting, and be just another snub - I can't see it in any other context than 'well, Liara got her own DLC/bridging story'. So if we don't get VS DLC, it will be really hard for me to not see it as some sort of confirmation that the VS just isn't as important as Liara.
On the other hand, I still have faith in the devs' words that they wanted the VS to be alive in ME3 (hence why you couldn't recruit them in 2). If there isn't VS DLC, it could honestly be because there are plans for them in ME3 that a bridging story would ruin or confuse. Like, for example, the story of Shep and Kai/Ash's reunion and reconciliation forms a major mission plot point in the main game of 3. In that case, it would be right from a writing pov to save them for the main game.
Even if the latter is the case, I'll still be pissed if the last piece of DLC isn't VS-oriented somehow. If we hadn't had LotSB I know I wouldn't feel as strongly about that.

I would be very happy if we get or  DLC only for VS or just a chance to stabilize Shep/VS LIs relationship before ME3. And not only re-union but also officially broke up with ME1 LIs. Devs were talking about " consequences" if we start a new relationship in ME2, but while Shep is not able to definetly finish  previous relationship with VS, or promise that they will be together again, it havn't sense for me. And while I doubt that those consequences will be really a " big deal" ( becouse romances aren't a main plot of this game, a lot of new players in ME2 havn't any relationships with VS, also there will be more new players coming with ME3) I just want to have everything "clear".

[jeweledleah]

Sialater wrote...

Persephone Rising is updated!  Chapter 20 has been posted.

I only have one complaint.

write faster O_O!  I swear between waiting for ME3 and waiting for updated chapters, all I do is wait O_O /stomps foot and pouts.  I'm too old to make it look adorable aren't I...damn   great chapter

on talking things over with Kaidan - Kaidan seems like the sort of person who's just going to pretend that nothing happened, even if your particular Shepard is.  he'd want to say something, after all he had opinions, suggestions and sometimes warnings for you through out ME1.  I personaly don't think that Shepard and him will be able to come to terms without airing some concerns and grievances.  the conversation itself though, where and how it happens, now that would be interesting.  for some reason I'm seeing Shepard put it off and then they get into some sort of serious, life threatening situation and end up talking it over, becasue there might not be any time left for them afterwards  (sorta goes with Kaidan thinking things over untill Ilos and being cautions, untill he realizes that Shep and him might not have time left to go slow and easy)

[Sialater]

jeweledleah wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Persephone Rising is updated!  Chapter 20 has been posted.

I only have one complaint.

write faster O_O!  I swear between waiting for ME3 and waiting for updated chapters, all I do is wait O_O /stomps foot and pouts.  I'm too old to make it look adorable aren't I...damn   great chapter

on talking things over with Kaidan - Kaidan seems like the sort of person who's just going to pretend that nothing happened, even if your particular Shepard is.  he'd want to say something, after all he had opinions, suggestions and sometimes warnings for you through out ME1.  I personaly don't think that Shepard and him will be able to come to terms without airing some concerns and grievances.  the conversation itself though, where and how it happens, now that would be interesting.  for some reason I'm seeing Shepard put it off and then they get into some sort of serious, life threatening situation and end up talking it over, becasue there might not be any time left for them afterwards  (sorta goes with Kaidan thinking things over untill Ilos and being cautions, untill he realizes that Shep and him might not have time left to go slow and easy)

LMAO, once a week isn't fast enough?

As far as the reunion, I'm partial to what I've written in A Paragon Of Virtue.  The subplot of their romance, not the Normandy chase.

[jeweledleah]

Sialater wrote...

LMAO, once a week isn't fast enough?

As far as the reunion, I'm partial to what I've written in A Paragon Of Virtue.  The subplot of their romance, not the Normandy chase.

the speed I read with I almost wsh I didn't start reading the story, untill if was finished O_O

I did like A paragon of virtue a great deal

[Sialater]

jeweledleah wrote...

Sialater wrote...

LMAO, once a week isn't fast enough?

As far as the reunion, I'm partial to what I've written in A Paragon Of Virtue.  The subplot of their romance, not the Normandy chase.

the speed I read with I almost wsh I didn't start reading the story, untill if was finished O_O

I did like A paragon of virtue a great deal

It'll be a while before The Shepard Project is finished.  Good thing Jilly and Sapphy and I get along.

And I'm glad you liked their reunion in aPoV. 

[siriusrambles]

Cypher0020 wrote...
Hey everyone... again
Ok, I know Shep is 3 years or so younger than Kaidan, but since I play Teddy as an Adept, it got me to thinking...
What do you think BaaT would have been like if Shep was there with Kaidan?
(I'm still trying to work out how Teddy trained her biotics in my headcanon)
Also, can your Shep relate to Kaidan IF biotic? I just got from the Wiki that human biotics are really, really, really rare.

my shep would have attempted to figure out how kaidan styled his hair bump as well as tried to touch it under the guise of science friendship. as a vanguard there would have been a mutual understanding of the stigma attached to biotics. they would have been allies throughout their years of training.