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[Fiery Phoenix]

Yup, thanks for stopping by, Syl. Much appreciated.

[Jhourney]

So I was browing the forums and noticed the KAST got a Bioware flag, got me worried a moment there lol Good to see you in here Sylvf and thank you for the feedback, even if you can't talk about what we most want to hear

I'm keeping myself busy and will get the DLC, with or without Kaidan. Mostly because it's the last bridge to ME3. Will I be upset if there's not even a brief mention of Kaidan in a DLC centered around the Alliance? Depends really. If other LI's are recognized as such again or get a brief comment but the VS don't even get that, yeah I'll be upset.

Truthfully though, after all this time, I'm getting tired of searching the horizon (pun intended) for news or even the slightest of hints. And oddly enough rather used to getting whatever false hope I personally build up crushed into tiny pieces. I'm looking forward to the DLC despite being disappointed about the lack of VS content but I have no one to blame but myself for that one.

Glad I'm getting the Shepard/Kaidan story closure I need later this year. I'm way too attached to the both of them after all these years

[MICHELLE7]

Jhosephine wrote...

Truthfully though, after all this time, I'm getting tired of searching the horizon (pun intended) for news or even the slightest of hints. And oddly enough rather used to getting whatever false hope I personally build up crushed into tiny pieces.

Same here...that's why I don't lurk as often as I used to.

If other LI's are recognized as such again or get a brief comment but the VS don't even get that, yeah I'll be upset.

Especially since it's alliance...who would they mention beside the VS....Tali?

Back to DA2.

[Jhourney]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

Especially since it's alliance...who would they mention beside the VS....Tali?

Back to DA2.

Oh gosh, I hope not lol It's funny but shortly after ME2 was released I was debating the whole Cerberus/Alliance/Pirate Shepard situation and wasn't sure what my feelings were on the Alliance anymore. Now, I'm thrilled to get some Alliance content, especially with a voiced Hackett! After all these years we finally get to meet face to face!

So....what if Shepard gets the option to 'officially rejoin" the Alliance in this DLC? That would eliminate the option of Kaidan returning on the crew as a liaison. Which is an angle I personally like However, since they say cheating on your ME1 LI has some impact on ME3, I can only assume they will save that stuff for ME3 itself. If the option is even there to begin with. See this is why I'm looking forward to this DLC, it will close some doors and maybe open a few new ones for me to fuss over till ME3 is released 

*goes back to DA2 as well and happily fries people with lightning bolts*

Modifié par Jhosephine, 25 mars 2011 - 08:07 .

[soren7550]

rudenotginger wrote...

Elysis wrote...

 What's with the gloom and depressing posts in here... 
Seriously? Arrival looks like a sweet DLC, even without Kaidan. 

Mass Effect is a trilogy. Which is why I believe people should hold judgement AFTER ME3 is released. I know a lot of of you guys in this forum consider Mass Effect like a Shepard/Kaidan story. But it's not, it's a Shepard/Bust some Reapers' ass story.
Personally, I'm super hyped about this DLC, and ME3, because Bioware never let me down so far. If ME3 doesn't hold a nice conclusion to Shenko, I'll get over it if the plot blows my mind away. If not, THEN I'll be able to rage and say how much BW sucks on these threads.
And I'm confident that everything will turn out great  So Cheer up guys!

I agree, I don't think we should give up before ME3 gets here. Sure, Liara got a DLC, but she's the SB now, so it's highly unlikely that she will be a squadmate in ME3. On the other hand, keeping Kaidan (or Ashley) out of ME2 and the SM garantees that this character will be alive to (hopefully) have a larger role in ME3. And (also hopefully), no VS DLC = biggest role in ME3?

On another note, where to we post our prompt project entries?

I'm with you two on this one.

[FireEye]

Eh.

As I've said, I went into ME2 expecting Kaidan to die in the first five minutes.  At the time, I was fine with it, since I was more interested in the Reaper and Prothean plot.  ME2 has absolved me of that interest entirely, and there was nothing to replace it; Kaidan and Ashley are the sole interest I have in the Mass Effect universe now. 

[MizzNaaa]

Well...I am optimistic and will stay that way until ME3 is released. And I see what role Kaidan has and whether or not it would make me a happy person. Frankly my only demand is that he stays in character, tells my sheppie he loves her...any thing else works for me as long as it doesn't have death...or anything close to death.

So yeah...and if the reaper story is exceptionally compelling...like it was in ME1 it might lessen the pain

not completely tho. Plus I still have my Thane love and Garrus love...? Oh sh** a guy with a killing disease and a guy who likes to catch missiles with his face...doesn't look good either *sigh*

[FireEye]

MizzNaaa wrote...

So yeah...and if the reaper story is exceptionally compelling...like it was in ME1 it might lessen the pain

It has to be built on the Reaper plot of ME2, though, which means I already can't take it seriously. 


Ah well.  There's always ME1.  And my Alliance marines. 

[sagefic]

@ everything Sylvf wrote...

wow, thanks for the input. that makes my fangeek day.

i have nothing else to do then but wait. kaidan's waiting, too:



(oh, and Elysis - i totally hear you.)

[Never]

Well I guess it's good to know one way or the other finally. I don't have to search the site everyday for news about the VS DLC. Pretty sadface, but I'm sure ME3 will make up for it.

[Commander Kurt]

rudenotginger wrote...

On another note, where to we post our prompt project entries?

Entries, yay!

I reckon you're not a member of the group (KAAS)? You can either join the group, or perhaps send your entry to Night. You need to be accepted as a member to join, but that isn't a big deal (they let me in).

http://social.bioware.com/group/1137/

Otherwise, if you don't want to become a member you could send it to me and I'll try to get it to the right place. I don't know for sure if you can submit one without being a member, but I can certainly ask.

[MizzNaaa]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

An excellent bonus for staying faithful throughout ME2 would have to be a wedding scene or something similar..... sorry lost in thought, I was day dreaming about Kaiden's possible proposal.

How do you think it would go?

OMG OMG OMG OMG!

I can't even being to describe how a Kaidan proposal would go....he's a romantic so maybe the traditional way? takes shepard out for a fancy dinner and tries to propose but they keep getting interrupted until he loses all hope and then when they go back home she asks him what's wrong...he gathers up his courage to tell her and they make love all night long...

That's just one possible idea...there are so many! lol

[Jhourney]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

An excellent bonus for staying faithful throughout ME2 would have to be a wedding scene or something similar..... sorry lost in thought, I was day dreaming about Kaiden's possible proposal.

How do you think it would go?

Not good at coming up with decent stuff myself but I'm sure Kaidan will be slightly clumsy, rubbing his neck and whatnot before taking a deep breath and sweeping Shepard of her feet I do wonder if Bioware will ever go down that route though. If DA2 is anything to go by, they are taking steps in the right direction romance wise. (although NOT where the number of dialogue is concerned) But even though people around the lead character can marry/are married or whatever, it's just not done for the hero. Maybe because it eliminates certain roleplay angles, making the hero's relationship too linear?
Lots of folks out there who just don't want to have their character married Having the option (without seeing the actual wedding scene) of a proposal would be nice for once though. Heck, Kaidan could be fishing for Shepard's views on the subject in a prior dialogue where your answer will determine if the proposal is ever going to happen to make sure people can still have an effect on the relationship status Without any negative effect if the relationship doesn't go there ofcourse.

I think it's just easier to leave it to the player's interpretation where the relationship goes after the game ends. But again, seeing the timespan of the trilogy....I would LOVE the option in ME3. However, it's rather sad there are this many LI's with different views, different characters and different types of relationships. If they give the Kaidan/Shepard one the option of a proposal, I'm sure others will need to get the same or there will be an uproar within the different fangroups
I'm really curious to see where it's all going.

[MICHELLE7]

Jhosephine wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

Especially since it's alliance...who would they mention beside the VS....Tali?

Back to DA2.

Oh gosh, I hope not lol It's funny but shortly after ME2 was released I was debating the whole Cerberus/Alliance/Pirate Shepard situation and wasn't sure what my feelings were on the Alliance anymore. Now, I'm thrilled to get some Alliance content, especially with a voiced Hackett! After all these years we finally get to meet face to face!

So....what if Shepard gets the option to 'officially rejoin" the Alliance in this DLC? That would eliminate the option of Kaidan returning on the crew as a liaison. Which is an angle I personally like However, since they say cheating on your ME1 LI has some impact on ME3, I can only assume they will save that stuff for ME3 itself. If the option is even there to begin with. See this is why I'm looking forward to this DLC, it will close some doors and maybe open a few new ones for me to fuss over till ME3 is released 

*goes back to DA2 as well and happily fries people with lightning bolts*

If she rejoins the alliance they would probably have to raise her rank for Kaidan to rejoin her on the new Normandy or he'd probably have his own command elsewhere (I'm assuming that if she rejoined the ship would become Alliance property much to my thrill...stick it TIM).

But in thinking about that would Bioware really re-visit the same scenario as Kaidan being under her command. I will really hate it if he can't be a squadmate...might put a damper on the whole game for me.

Romance  is one thing but I like the LI to be with the squadmates...beside if it's possibly the end of the world wouldn't two people in love want to spend as much time together  just in case they might breathe their last. Maybe that would be reason enough for Kaidan to leave the Alliance and join Shepard if she doesn't rejoin...or if they won't assign him to her ship if she does.

[MICHELLE7]

Jhosephine wrote...


Not good at coming up with decent stuff myself but I'm sure Kaidan will be slightly clumsy, rubbing his neck and whatnot before taking a deep breath and sweeping Shepard of her feet I do wonder if Bioware will ever go down that route though. If DA2 is anything to go by, they are taking steps in the right direction romance wise. (although NOT where the number of dialogue is concerned) But even though people around the lead character can marry/are married or whatever, it's just not done for the hero. Maybe because it eliminates certain roleplay angles, making the hero's relationship too linear?

They are giving happy endings now...not like DAO and the ritual (blah) but they seemed to have back tracked on amount of dialogue and number and intensity of scenes. They even give the same bedroom scene for the rival romance as the friendship romance..at least they did for Anders...you get different scenes leading up to that but that's about all.

And I don't expect them to roll back to ME for the big romance scene but you'd think we'd get at least as much as we got in DAO. Everything seemed awful short and I'm still laughing about the Sebastion romance...I haven't finished it quite yet but so far joining the Chantry in a chaste marriage with a chantry priest?...come on didn't anyone watch the Thornbirds?

I'm hoping that by the time we get to ME3 they haven't gone to a complete blank screen like they do with Fable for Kaidan...just don't know if I could take that seriously on an artistic level especailly after ME1.

[Jhourney]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

I'm hoping that by the time we get to ME3 they haven't gone to a complete blank screen like they do with Fable for Kaidan...just don't know if I could take that seriously on an artistic level especailly after ME1.

I think the scenes for men were basically the same in DA2 as ME2. What I don't get is why scenes are toned down so much for women. What I meant with a step in the right direction is the pacing. Not the silly timespan as a whole but at least they got rid of the smexy scene before the final battle thing.
But there was just more things going on in DAO but dialogue wise that one was insane with the shere amount of it, compared to ME and DA2. 
The number of LI's in ME3 is going to influence the depth of the relationship I'm sure. Which is why I fear they are going to take the easy way out where Kaidan and Shepard are concerned and them making up, the big conversation where the outcome of cheating on Kaidan will be revealed as well

But who knows, we might get something in Arrival. From what I understand, the one saying there was no VS in there only played the first part of the DLC? It would be nice to at least lay some groundwork in the DLC, so it won't feel too rushed in ME3. But yes, at least let someone take off their shirt or something in our scenes...this fully clothed, few second scenes while the camera pans to a lit candle has been done now, time to get creative 

Few more days till Arrival and then a long, long wait till ME3 and finally some more Kaidan.

Modifié par Jhosephine, 26 mars 2011 - 01:06 .

[rudenotginger]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Fiddles_stix wrote...

An excellent bonus for staying faithful throughout ME2 would have to be a wedding scene or something similar..... sorry lost in thought, I was day dreaming about Kaiden's possible proposal.

How do you think it would go?

Not good at coming up with decent stuff myself but I'm sure Kaidan will be slightly clumsy, rubbing his neck and whatnot before taking a deep breath and sweeping Shepard of her feet I do wonder if Bioware will ever go down that route though. If DA2 is anything to go by, they are taking steps in the right direction romance wise. (although NOT where the number of dialogue is concerned) But even though people around the lead character can marry/are married or whatever, it's just not done for the hero. Maybe because it eliminates certain roleplay angles, making the hero's relationship too linear?
Lots of folks out there who just don't want to have their character married Having the option (without seeing the actual wedding scene) of a proposal would be nice for once though. Heck, Kaidan could be fishing for Shepard's views on the subject in a prior dialogue where your answer will determine if the proposal is ever going to happen to make sure people can still have an effect on the relationship status Without any negative effect if the relationship doesn't go there ofcourse.

I think it's just easier to leave it to the player's interpretation where the relationship goes after the game ends. But again, seeing the timespan of the trilogy....I would LOVE the option in ME3. However, it's rather sad there are this many LI's with different views, different characters and different types of relationships. If they give the Kaidan/Shepard one the option of a proposal, I'm sure others will need to get the same or there will be an uproar within the different fangroups
I'm really curious to see where it's all going.

A joker interupt just as Shepard is about to say yes would be awesome.

You have a point about the problems with all the variables. I hope though there is a serious bonus to staying faithful (not that I'd do anything else). But you're probably right, player interpretation wise.

With some work though it could be done, I imagine the epilogue section of ME3 will involve lots of talking to people and medals etc (if Shepard survives). A conversation with an LI at the end about future plans now the galaxy has been saved 3 times could have some kind of settling down option.

I just want a moment of closure with Kaiden, that's all, is it really that much to ask Bioware?

Sorry, I'm really not on board with the marriage thing. Even as a paragon, Shepard just doesn't strike me as the marrying type. Kaidan maybe, but not Shepard.

[rudenotginger]

Commander Kurt wrote...

rudenotginger wrote...

On another note, where to we post our prompt project entries?

Entries, yay!

I reckon you're not a member of the group (KAAS)? You can either join the group, or perhaps send your entry to Night. You need to be accepted as a member to join, but that isn't a big deal (they let me in).

http://social.bioware.com/group/1137/

Otherwise, if you don't want to become a member you could send it to me and I'll try to get it to the right place. I don't know for sure if you can submit one without being a member, but I can certainly ask.

Hi Kurt! Yes, I'm a member, I posted my intro a few days ago. I guess that means I have to post my entry there. I'm not 100% happy with it yet though, I might take another couple of days to tweak it.

[sagefic]

 this was posted in the last thread, but i found it and feel it should be revived. from chignon:

[MICHELLE7]

Jhosephine wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

I'm hoping that by the time we get to ME3 they haven't gone to a complete blank screen like they do with Fable for Kaidan...just don't know if I could take that seriously on an artistic level especailly after ME1.

I think the scenes for men were basically the same in DA2 as ME2. What I don't get is why scenes are toned down so much for women. What I meant with a step in the right direction is the pacing. Not the silly timespan as a whole but at least they got rid of the smexy scene before the final battle thing.
But there was just more things going on in DAO but dialogue wise that one was insane with the shere amount of it, compared to ME and DA2. 
The number of LI's in ME3 is going to influence the depth of the relationship I'm sure. Which is why I fear they are going to take the easy way out where Kaidan and Shepard are concerned and them making up, the big conversation where the outcome of cheating on Kaidan will be revealed as well

But who knows, we might get something in Arrival. From what I understand, the one saying there was no VS in there only played the first part of the DLC? It would be nice to at least lay some groundwork in the DLC, so it won't feel too rushed in ME3. But yes, at least let someone take off their shirt or something in our scenes...this fully clothed, few second scenes while the camera pans to a lit candle has been done now, time to get creative 

Few more days till Arrival and then a long, long wait till ME3 and finally some more Kaidan.

Yeah, the dialogue thing was killing me...I had to practically fight to get the hearts for Merrill with my MaleHawke. I kept thinking I had done something wrong and had messed up the relationship...wasn't even sure until she finally approached me at the mansion that I had succeeded in romancing her. Sebastion is just as bad and worse is the fact that the relationship is really delayed until Act 3 and then it goes absolutely nowhere. Still haven't gotten around the Fenris but I think Anders was a little better...he had more hearts to respond to and the rival romance was a little kinkier in the dialogue.

I can live with the dialogue in DA2...there isn't really any history between Hawke and the other characters save her mother and siblings but ME is all history. If the dialogue is as skimpy for ME3 I just don't see how it could possibly work...It would be like Shepard's greeting to Kaidan at Horizon...that's all she's gonna say?  Horizon deserves a big explanation when Shenko next meets and the dialogue should reflect that. And I am with you on the shirt off...let's see some skin please. You see more on television.

[Quaay]

Yea I know some people don't want the marriage thing for their Shepard but I kinda do. I hate marriage irl but after being apart from Kaidan for so long I really wanna lock that down lol. I want the Rachni Queen to sing at our wedding and then live happily ever after!

ME3 better start off with working the relationship out so he can be by my side for the whole game. None of that make up and have sex only before the final battle crap please.

[MizzNaaa]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Fiddles_stix wrote...

An excellent bonus for staying faithful throughout ME2 would have to be a wedding scene or something similar..... sorry lost in thought, I was day dreaming about Kaiden's possible proposal.

How do you think it would go?

Not good at coming up with decent stuff myself but I'm sure Kaidan will be slightly clumsy, rubbing his neck and whatnot before taking a deep breath and sweeping Shepard of her feet I do wonder if Bioware will ever go down that route though. If DA2 is anything to go by, they are taking steps in the right direction romance wise. (although NOT where the number of dialogue is concerned) But even though people around the lead character can marry/are married or whatever, it's just not done for the hero. Maybe because it eliminates certain roleplay angles, making the hero's relationship too linear?
Lots of folks out there who just don't want to have their character married Having the option (without seeing the actual wedding scene) of a proposal would be nice for once though. Heck, Kaidan could be fishing for Shepard's views on the subject in a prior dialogue where your answer will determine if the proposal is ever going to happen to make sure people can still have an effect on the relationship status Without any negative effect if the relationship doesn't go there ofcourse.

I think it's just easier to leave it to the player's interpretation where the relationship goes after the game ends. But again, seeing the timespan of the trilogy....I would LOVE the option in ME3. However, it's rather sad there are this many LI's with different views, different characters and different types of relationships. If they give the Kaidan/Shepard one the option of a proposal, I'm sure others will need to get the same or there will be an uproar within the different fangroups
I'm really curious to see where it's all going.

A joker interupt just as Shepard is about to say yes would be awesome.

You have a point about the problems with all the variables. I hope though there is a serious bonus to staying faithful (not that I'd do anything else). But you're probably right, player interpretation wise.

With some work though it could be done, I imagine the epilogue section of ME3 will involve lots of talking to people and medals etc (if Shepard survives). A conversation with an LI at the end about future plans now the galaxy has been saved 3 times could have some kind of settling down option.

I just want a moment of closure with Kaiden, that's all, is it really that much to ask Bioware?

I hope they could at least give us the option like those who romanced Liara...if you remember the conversation in LoTSB "Marriage, old age and a lot of little blue children."

Whether or not it would happen depends solely on the player's interpretation but the option was mentioned, that's all I ask for.

[Commander Kurt]

I would prefer no wedding... And I do need that man to be a squad member, I think. I just really hope that ME3 will be a great game, the trilogy deserves a good ending. After ME2, I'm so used to getting the romance from fanfic I think I will be more sad when that ends than I will be if I'm disappointed with the romance in ME3.

I've accepted that the romances in ME1 are not to be topped (or even matched), sadly.


And guys! A general request. I get that people want to discuss DA2, but I haven't had time to play it yet. Could you please just mark spoilers so that I can enjoy discussing Kaidan without reading those??

rudenotginger wrote...

Hi Kurt! Yes, I'm a member, I posted my intro a few days ago. I guess that means I have to post my entry there. I'm not 100% happy with it yet though, I might take another couple of days to tweak it.

Hey Rude, good to have you onboard! Hehe.. I posted mine friday, then ended up rewriting the whole thing.

But if you're a member you post it in one of the group discussions (named the Kaidan Alenko Prompt Project, I think).