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[Sialater]

Wow, I take a day off to be sick and we're already at 20 pages.

And apparently, I need a ToP hug:

Modifié par Sialater, 13 janvier 2011 - 02:36 .

[Naemi79]

http://social.biowar...4&poll_id=13883



Wow! Now he is ahead by 5 votes over Tali!



Never thought I´d live to see that



Go go Kaidan!!

[close2myheart]

I always love that animation when Kaidan hugs Shepard in Horizon just not the scene afterwards <_<
Edit: typo & gramar

Modifié par close2myheart, 13 janvier 2011 - 05:45 .

[mineralica]

Naenwen wrote...

http://social.biowar...4&poll_id=13883

Wow! Now he is ahead by 5 votes over Tali!

Never thought I´d live to see that

Go go Kaidan!!

I need my eyes checked.
I wish scenario writers see that, too.

Modifié par mineralica, 13 janvier 2011 - 05:36 .

[Siansonea]

If there's one thing that poll proves, it's that a character like Kaidan has a fan base with staying power. And perhaps the fact that Kaidan is doing so well, even with Tali in the poll, will serve as a wake-up call to the devs who may not realize just how popular he is. The Talimancers got their day in ME2, I hope Kaidan (and Ashley, for that matter) gets a chance to shine in ME3.



I was a Kaidan supporter in the old ME1 threads (back then I was just Siansonea), and I can't even tell you how full of trolls that old thread was. Those old threads were less 'fan support' and more 'defend your favorite'. The mantra back then was "Kaidan is a wuss", primarily because he —shockingly—turns down a three-way with Shepard and Liara. I'll give you one guess what the median age of Kaidan's detractors was.



I'm pleased that Kaidan is leading my poll, even if Tali closes the gap again. Who says nice guys finish last?

[pprrff]

Have you ever felt that in ME1, you conversation with Kaidan felt like an episode of the Simpsons, that is the beginning has nothing to do with rest of the dialogue. It might be a weird thing to pick up but every time I talk to him, he will start by saying something about the council or aliens and then all of a sudden seg into his life at the Brain camp. I was a little confuse at first. Does anyone else feel that too?

[Sialater]

pprrff wrote...

Have you ever felt that in ME1, you conversation with Kaidan felt like an episode of the Simpsons, that is the beginning has nothing to do with rest of the dialogue. It might be a weird thing to pick up but every time I talk to him, he will start by saying something about the council or aliens and then all of a sudden seg into his life at the Brain camp. I was a little confuse at first. Does anyone else feel that too?

No.  The Brain Camp story was him warning your Shepard about taking the easy way out.  There wasn't anything really sudden about it.

[BECC4]

Not really he links it in, it's like real conversation where you go on a tangent but then you get to the point at the end of your story *shrug*



Not fangirlism, I honestly never had trouble following him.

[pprrff]

Fair enough, he does bring it together at the end, but I thought it was weird at first. I am just used to other characters conversation, like 'this is my sister, I will tell you a story her ...' or 'I was a merc once and here is a story from that time ..'

[Elysis]

 Well Kaidan is nothing like any other character 

[pprrff]

or he is so enamoured with Jane Shepard that he can't collected his thoughts into a single coherent story

[Shenzi]

BECC4 wrote...

Not really he links it in, it's like real conversation where you go on a tangent but then you get to the point at the end of your story *shrug*

Not fangirlism, I honestly never had trouble following him.

I've never had any problems following him either.

[syllogi]

pprrff wrote...

or he is so enamoured with Jane Shepard that he can't collected his thoughts into a single coherent story

He tells the same story to a male Shepard.  I never got the impression that his segues from talking about the mission into his personal story were handled badly...I actually enjoyed the fact that he appears to be telling you about his past NOT because he needs you to fix him, or go on a mission to avenge somebody, or find something, but rather, he's relating his past history to the current situation, and using his experience to explain his views.

It was pretty different from the usual Bioware character formula, and I enjoyed it, but I know it's not for everyone.  I'm glad they wrote him that way, though.

[Pacifien]

Kaidan fans: I'm about to blow. your. minds.

No wait, that sounds waaaaay too out of proportion with what I'm about to do. I am not about to blow your minds.

Modifié par Pacifien, 13 janvier 2011 - 08:26 .

[Sialater]

Pacifien wrote...

Kaidan fans: I'm about to blow. your. minds.

Uh... ok?

[syllogi]

Pacifien wrote...

Kaidan fans: I'm about to blow. your. minds.

No wait, that sounds waaaaay too out of proportion with what I'm about to do. I am not about to blow your minds.

OOH!  Did you find out who wrote him???

[jtav]

Quick question: did Kaidan grow up in Vancouver or do his parents just live there now?

[Pacifien]

TeenZombie wrote...
OOH!  Did you find out who wrote him???

I DID!

The Production of Mass Effect

[Pacifien]

jtav wrote...
Quick question: did Kaidan grow up in Vancouver or do his parents just live there now?

He mentions his parents retired there, which leads me to believe he did not grow up in the same area. Otherwise, he wouldn't have made the distinction of calling it his parents' retirement home.

[Chignon]

Pacifien wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...
OOH!  Did you find out who wrote him???

I DID!

The Production of Mass Effect

Kotaku mentions Mac Walters writing Wrex and Garrus for Mass Effect 1. Mac Walters mentions how the process of writing dialogue changes in Mass Effect 2.
* From Lukas Kristjanson via PM, summarized with permission:
Dusty Everman contributed to the writing of the Normandy crew in ME2.

[...]

"ME1 was split by planet and character, more or less. I did writing for Kaidan, pretty sure it was Chris and/or Drew who fleshed that out after I was off project closer to release. I did fiddlybits with all of the followers and lots of areas like the Citadel, but I was primarily tasked with the major dialogues on Feros and Virmire. I got to do a little something with Kaidan, Ash, and Wrex on one of those, if I recall correctly. Patrick took over maintenance on Feros and I think Mac and Drew were Virmire."

He makes sure to credit Cookie Everman and Karin Weekes, two editors for Mass Effect, for being the first line of feedback to the writers, helping them polish the writing to make the voices consistent.

EDIT

Thank you for finding that out, Pacifien!

Modifié par Chignon, 13 janvier 2011 - 08:48 .

[Pacifien]

He did clarify that Chris's contribution to Kaidan seemed significant enough that Chris could have claimed credit for Kaidan just as much.

[Sialater]

Pacifien wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...
OOH!  Did you find out who wrote him???

I DID!

The Production of Mass Effect

That was a little confusing.  Dusty Everman wrote him?  Or Lukas Kristjanson?

And can we send him booze as a thank you?

[syllogi]

So Lukas wrote both Kaidan *and* Jacob? Interesting...

[Pacifien]

Sialater wrote...
That was a little confusing.  Dusty Everman wrote him?  Or Lukas Kristjanson?

And can we send him booze as a thank you?

I'll try to clean it up later to make it clearer, but Dusty Everman wrote the Normandy crew for Mass Effect 2, like Kelly. Lukas Kristjanson wrote for Kaidan, along with Chris L'Etoile and Drew Karpyshyn.

[JaerWolfe]

TeenZombie wrote...

So Lukas wrote both Kaidan *and* Jacob? Interesting...

If by 'interesting' you mean a complete and total mind **** of armageddon proportions. Sure.