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[shotgun-shepard]

I knew I was going to regret deciding to romance Thane on my renegade Shep playthrough! Yummy spectre Kaidan, I agree that if it is true he and Ash both deserve the rank and its nice to see that the council are even pretending to give a damn about humanity (I saved you so three species would owe us a favour...).

Maybe I will call it off with Thane...I felt it was a bit of a double standard anyway because I renegaded Kaidan in ME1 on this run...so deciding to date an alien isn't really right. No paramour achievement for me, I'll let Thane down gently and Famke Shepard can go it alone until 3.

Gah I can't beleive I feel guilty about cheating on a collection of pixels...wait, yes I can

EDIT: Top of the page toplessness 

Modifié par shotgun-shepard, 21 avril 2011 - 10:02 .

[syllogi]

AkodoRyu wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Hehe, I will hope that the 2 Spectre rule will be broken this time. At least in my game.

Have I mentioned that I *love* the idea that Kaidan will be on equal footing with Shepard in ME3? Yay!

Well, this. But not.

For me Kaidan was already mentally equal to Shepard, especially after Horizon. He didn't need flashy guns, super ranks or anything else besides his personality or resolve to impress me. Maybe biotics, yeah, because I roleplay my ME1 Shepard as biotic failure.

But a Spectre... I'll have to process this, if this is true.

Oh, I totally agree on how you see him.  But I was never comfortable with the superior/subordinate relationship.  I would even go so far to say that it would be more realistic for my main Shepard to have been single in both ME 1 & 2, even if she was attracted to Kaidan, because even in crazy circumstances, she shouldn't have broken that particular rule.  So I'm hoping that at least this part of the article is true.

[syllogi]

THANK YOU AGAIN COLLIDER

[meonlyred]

I feel the same about romancing Kaidan in ME1. Kaidan is Shepard's equal, it just sucks that he is a subordinate. A part of my mind is screaming 'WTF are you doing!?' given it's a small part that I usually ignore but still it's there. I have one playthrough with a Shepard who didn't romance anyone in ME1 or ME2, in hopes that Kaidan can be a 'new' romance in ME3. Kind of like they get a second chance to be together.

@The Kaidan dancing gif
You have any idea how hard it is to write a seriously post when at the top of my screen is Kaidan dancing? It is very distracting...

[Geirahod]

TeenZombie wrote...

THANK YOU AGAIN COLLIDER

[Lovestories]

TeenZombie wrote...

THANK YOU AGAIN COLLIDER

=O THANK YOU FOR THIS. Thank you so very much... LOL

Anyway, hmm Kaidan a Spectre, for some reason I feel as if I am slightly dissapointed, like Bioware could have done something more interesting, of course I don't know exactly what. But I have no real problem with him being one. Funny though in my game Shepard is no longer one, poor Shep ex upstaging you in rank. lol =P

Sidenote: @GeiraHod, I'm liking your signature lol

Modifié par Lovestories, 22 avril 2011 - 02:23 .

[AkodoRyu]

Lovestories wrote...
Anyway, hmm Kaidan a Spectre, for some reason I feel as if I am slightly dissapointed, like Bioware could have done something more interesting(...)

Yes, that was my first thought too, a kind of a cheap way to make VS more flashy, but I'm shutting up right now and waiting for confirmation.

But then again, a Spectre wearing Alliance dress uniform under the armor.

[Aggie Punbot]

With all of the awesome people fleeing this thread due to potential ME3 spoilers, would it be possible to make a separate ME3-spoiler-free thread within the Kaidan Alenko Appreciation Society's discussion boards where they could congregate with no fear of being spoiled? I'd hate to see people have to give up the mutual Kaidan Love Appreciation because of that.

[Cypher0020]

Hmmmm.... well that is an official scan... and BW did say they were saving Ash/Kaidan for a big role in ME3.... spectre is pretty big.....

but damn...Shep/Kaidan as Spectre duo.......I'm drooling at the thought of it.

Think about it... Kai/Ash would be equal to Shep in rank now....no more Alliance trappings so they could pursue a romance or a freidnship....plus free to fight the Reapers?

I also like Kai's new look in the pic too....

[BECC4]

@TS2Aggie I agree about the spoiler thing it's a pretty huge spoiler, I know spoilers are allowed in here but still seems a little unfair peopmfeel they have to leave 7mths before the game is set to be released.

[noxpanda]

I reckon that article is just speculation, most of it looked like rehashed info/pics from the game informer article. I can't really see Kaidan being a spectre, after all he states on Horizon that hes alliance through and through, why would he suddenly decide to work for the council instead? Also i've not seen it mentioned anywhere else, so until bioware confirm it i'm just gonna take a seat on the skeptics bench

[syllogi]

TS2Aggie wrote...

With all of the awesome people fleeing this thread due to potential ME3 spoilers, would it be possible to make a separate ME3-spoiler-free thread within the Kaidan Alenko Appreciation Society's discussion boards where they could congregate with no fear of being spoiled? I'd hate to see people have to give up the mutual Kaidan Love Appreciation because of that.

I understand how you feel, but considering that there's a thread titled "Virmire Survivor is a Spectre" in the Story discussion forum right now, it's really hard to get away from these spoilers.   Plus, we'll probably be getting newer people coming to the thread all the time, excited to share new info.  Someone can ask them to go elsewhere, but by then, the spoiler is already in the thread.

I'd really like a ME3 forum where we can discuss this stuff, I wish they would just open it up now.

[darknoon5]

Hey, just dropping in here to post a link to my poll on the VS as a spectre, as I figure you VS fans will have some interesting view on this topic.
(yes, I did copy and paste this post in the other VS thread. Sorry for the Laziness.)

[Ananka]

darknoon5 wrote...

Hey, just dropping in here to post a link to my poll on the VS as a spectre, as I figure you VS fans will have some interesting view on this topic.
(yes, I did copy and paste this post in the other VS thread. Sorry for the Laziness.)

Voted!

I think Kaidan would make a great spectre, not so sure about Ash though... To me, Ashley seems to be a good soldier, but not extraordinarily good. That's just my impression though...

I'm fine with either of the VS becoming spectres, but I don't want it to become too much like two grey wardens saving the world against horrible monsters.
Also, Seeing as my otherwise Oh-so-paragon Shepard told the council to cram the spectre reinstatement in ME2, the VS might just become the ONLY human spectre there is.

Edit: It just dawned on me that having told the council to cram it, followed by defying cerberus and stealing their ship, while not being trusted by the alliance may not leave my Shep in the best tactical position for ME3...

Modifié par Annaka, 22 avril 2011 - 01:50 .

[M-Sinistrari]

Annaka wrote...

Edit: It just dawned on me that having told the council to cram it, followed by defying cerberus and stealing their ship, while not being trusted by the alliance may not leave my Shep in the best tactical position for ME3...

I did a playthrough like that in hopes of having a challenge to overcome.  Doing a 'Shep against everyone' playthrough should be intriguing to see how it plays out.

[MizzNaaa]

darknoon5 wrote...

Hey, just dropping in here to post a link to my poll on the VS as a spectre, as I figure you VS fans will have some interesting view on this topic.
(yes, I did copy and paste this post in the other VS thread. Sorry for the Laziness.)

Voted and shared my opinion

Also about the "Shep against everyone" topic. Once I'm done with finals I plan on doing a perfect playthrough (for the heck of it, and for screenshots) with my main Shep. Then I'mma make another one with a male Shep who's going to be Ash's babe (gonna get the savegame from MEsaves because I can never kill Kaidan ) and I'm going to finish my maleshep who romanced Jack. one of those is going to follow the Shep against everyone scenario.

[darknoon5]

Thanks, the people in the Ashley thread ignored me
Also thanks for any comments. Personally I agree that Kaidan is more qualified then Ashley, but I want a fair pool of comments.

[Chignon]

noxpanda wrote...

I reckon that article is just speculation, most of it looked like rehashed info/pics from the game informer article. I can't really see Kaidan being a spectre, after all he states on Horizon that hes alliance through and through, why would he suddenly decide to work for the council instead? Also i've not seen it mentioned anywhere else, so until bioware confirm it i'm just gonna take a seat on the skeptics bench

The same happened with Shepard in ME1. S/he was working for the Council but still did the odd job for the Alliance and Admiral Hackett.

[MizzNaaa]

Chignon wrote...

noxpanda wrote...

I reckon that article is just speculation, most of it looked like rehashed info/pics from the game informer article. I can't really see Kaidan being a spectre, after all he states on Horizon that hes alliance through and through, why would he suddenly decide to work for the council instead? Also i've not seen it mentioned anywhere else, so until bioware confirm it i'm just gonna take a seat on the skeptics bench

The same happened with Shepard in ME1. S/he was working for the Council but still did the odd job for the Alliance and Admiral Hackett.

The only reason I decided not to believe in what that magazine is saying, is because of their being so unprofessional. Plus the page with all the squaddies is just speculation, they say yes to those confirmed, and they say that the characters they like best but weren't confirmed would probably make a comeback, and those they don't like wouldn't come back probably. Nothing they said is confirmed, and frankly it seemed like reading a blog entry a group of fans made. I respect everybody's opinion, but it's not for sure, nothing they said is confirmed.

Not that I mind Kaidan being a Spectre 

Modifié par MizzNaaa, 22 avril 2011 - 04:57 .

[noxpanda]

Chignon wrote...

noxpanda wrote...

I reckon that article is just speculation, most of it looked like rehashed info/pics from the game informer article. I can't really see Kaidan being a spectre, after all he states on Horizon that hes alliance through and through, why would he suddenly decide to work for the council instead? Also i've not seen it mentioned anywhere else, so until bioware confirm it i'm just gonna take a seat on the skeptics bench

The same happened with Shepard in ME1. S/he was working for the Council but still did the odd job for the Alliance and Admiral Hackett.

Very true

I dunno, just sounds like lazy writing to me. (Council): 'Oh look shep died, ahh well just grab one of their squadmates as a replcement human spectre, shep will be unaware of this despite possibley being reinstated as a spectre herself/himself'

Mind you shep can't even send an email so i suppose she wouldn't be having a chat with other spectres/spectre candidates.

I also don't see why the council would want another spectre thats gonna run around insisting that reapers exist, maybe i'm being overly skeptical again and that turian councillor finally accepted the truth. It would probably work better for playthroughs were you didn't protect the council during the battle of the citadel.

[MizzNaaa]

I still stand by my opinion that the PS magazine people are merely speculating (and trolling) to be honest. I mean, just look at the oh-supposedly-so-funny opinions of the characters, and their speculations about who's coming back and who's not. They should know that fans of the franchise are going to be devouring every bit of info, new or old, confirmed or not, and they're using that to get some attention.

Just compare the article to the GI article and you'll see what I mean.

Reminds me of Fox news :/

Modifié par MizzNaaa, 22 avril 2011 - 05:11 .

[JaerWolfe]

@noxpanda....you're underestimating the politics involved. Both the human Councillor, whether Udina or Anderson, and the Alliance would want any human Spectre to have loyalties with them. Even when Shepard was made Spectre it was more of a political lollipop given to humans than because she had earned or deserved it.

@mizznaaa...whether the VS is or isn't a Spectre is actually pretty irrelevent to me, but it's one of the few plot lines I see as actually having been started in ME1 rather than just tossed in for the kicks and giggles.
There is a lot of similarity between the VS and Shepard no matter how you play them. But for a happenstance and a quick grab, the VS could have been Shepard and been messed with by the beacon in ME1.
To illustrate:
Kaidan: Special Commendations, a rare, stable L2 biotic.
Ashley: Survived when her entire unit was killed on Eden Prime.

Squint a bit and you have War Hero background and Sole Survivor. Or a Shepard in the making, if you will.

[MizzNaaa]

JaerWolfe wrote...

@mizznaaa...whether the VS is or isn't a Spectre is actually pretty irrelevent to me, but it's one of the few plot lines I see as actually having been started in ME1 rather than just tossed in for the kicks and giggles.
There is a lot of similarity between the VS and Shepard no matter how you play them. But for a happenstance and a quick grab, the VS could have been Shepard and been messed with by the beacon in ME1.
To illustrate:
Kaidan: Special Commendations, a rare, stable L2 biotic.
Ashley: Survived when her entire unit was killed on Eden Prime.

Squint a bit and you have War Hero background and Sole Survivor. Or a Shepard in the making, if you will.

I actually agree with you, Jaer. The only thing I'm not so happy about is the article itself and the way the writers are practically trolling to get a rise of the fans of the characters who aren't confirmed yet.

As for the spectre thing, I actually like it. I'm a bit worried about how they'd explain it, as I too believe it should have started from ME1, but the only explanation I could give is that Shepard was more famous I guess and the council were still trying their hand at having a human spectre. If the council was saved, then they owe humans and have a human councilor, so it makes sense that they recruit more human spectres, and who'd be better than those squaddies of Shepard herself. If the council was sacrificed, a new council is made, with humans dominating it, it would also make sense that the Alliance would use human spectres.

So yeah, I think it makes sense, let's just hope the writing shows that well, that is if it's true.

[JaerWolfe]

MizzNaaa wrote...
I actually agree with you, Jaer. The only thing I'm not so happy about is the article itself and the way the writers are practically trolling to get a rise of the fans of the characters who aren't confirmed yet.

As for the spectre thing, I actually like it. I'm a bit worried about how they'd explain it, as I too believe it should have started from ME1, but the only explanation I could give is that Shepard was more famous I guess and the council were still trying their hand at having a human spectre. If the council was saved, then they owe humans and have a human councilor, so it makes sense that they recruit more human spectres, and who'd be better than those squaddies of Shepard herself. If the council was sacrificed, a new council is made, with humans dominating it, it would also make sense that the Alliance would use human spectres.

So yeah, I think it makes sense, let's just hope the writing shows that well, that is if it's true.

The article was garbage. There's too much they messed up.

As for the writing showing it...welcome to my nightmare. This is my biggest concern for ME3. Don't get me wrong, I will buy the game day one and play it, but the writing in ME2 was terrible when it came to major plot points. I just beat the game again last night...alas, poor Jacob, Thane and Garrus, I knew you well. Jack, WTF happened? You were loyal and Tali wasn't how did you die and not her????...and it's become a bit painful in areas to even listen to.
Why, yes, I'm still bitter about the 'good kid' thing.

[noxpanda]

JaerWolfe wrote...

@noxpanda....you're underestimating the politics involved. Both the human Councillor, whether Udina or Anderson, and the Alliance would want any human Spectre to have loyalties with them. Even when Shepard was made Spectre it was more of a political lollipop given to humans than because she had earned or deserved it.

@mizznaaa...whether the VS is or isn't a Spectre is actually pretty irrelevent to me, but it's one of the few plot lines I see as actually having been started in ME1 rather than just tossed in for the kicks and giggles.
There is a lot of similarity between the VS and Shepard no matter how you play them. But for a happenstance and a quick grab, the VS could have been Shepard and been messed with by the beacon in ME1.
To illustrate:
Kaidan: Special Commendations, a rare, stable L2 biotic.
Ashley: Survived when her entire unit was killed on Eden Prime.

Squint a bit and you have War Hero background and Sole Survivor. Or a Shepard in the making, if you will.

Yeah i'm by no means politically savvy, i'm just concerned ME3 will suddenly give us a second spectre with no real explanation behind it.

I also think that article was terrible, so much so that i didn't even bother to read much of it.

I'm just really hope we'll get a well written and thought out storyline conclusion for ME3, i won't be surprised if we don't, but ya know, i'm still hoping