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[Cypher0020]

Really??! Yaaaaaaaay!

Spectres Kaidan and Shepard....... to me that is the ultimate form of badass......

I can only imagine family life with kids down the line....

"your parents are Spectres?!"

[Vertigo_1]

meonlyred wrote...

I imagine in the middle of the trial Kaidan storms in throws Shepard over his shoulder and as he is stomping out, Shepard waves happy as a little lamb to the shocked crowd.

no? Well that is how it plays out in this deranged mind.

Hah I can see this happening!  Someone with artistic talent could/should draw this!

[M-Sinistrari]

keekee53 wrote...

Do you guys really think Kaidan will be a Spectre? I am not so sure. I totally believe Kaidan has the rank and skill to be a Spectre but I am having a hard time imagining Ashley being a Spectre due to her rank. According to Wiki, her title was Operations Chief in Mass Effect 2...Operations Chief to Spectre seems pretty farfetched. I know we try not to lump the two characters together but whether or not the VS is a Spectre would be something I think shared between the two characters. If Bioware decides to make the VS a Spectre, they better have a solid story for Ashley.

Going from what the Salarian Councilor says during Shep's spectreing, a Spectre's already been through the test of battle and ability.  Nothing's ever really been said as to what profession a someone's got to be to be concidered.  We know Shep qualified from thier background along with the game events up to that point, so I dont' find it a stretch at all for Kaidan or Ashley to also be concidered especially since they also have the been present at taking down Sovereign on thier record.

[MizzNaaa]

This page doesn't have a ToP Kaidan!!

Shame on you guys.

Here, have a Kaidan.

[Psara]

MICHELLE7 wrote...


...Just did the Horizon bit again and again...it's funny...this is only my third complete playthrough and I've done that bit on Horizon at least 15 times...yes wanting to make sure I get just the right answers...not that the dialogue for it makes much difference as far as we know anyway.

I've been meaning to ask for ages: has anyone seen a dialogue tree for Horizon online?

[nranola]

Jhosephine wrote...

Dunno if this guy has been brought up before, but I stumbled upon him by accident and thought he had Kaidan's mouth at least...there was just something about this Libanese male model that made me think of Kaidan. It's not him but still

https://home.kpn.nl/...aidan/model.jpg

*goes back to browsing male models*

Now that's what I can dedication! I didn't think it could be done, but I think you may have just tracked down Kaidan's face model. xD He looks very much like him +/- a few stuff here and there.

Cypher0020 wrote...

Spectres Kaidan and Shepard....... to me that is the ultimate form of badass......

I can only imagine family life with kids down the line....

"your parents are Spectres?!"

I wouldn't want to be that kid. Can you just imagine the pressure? xD

[Funkcase]

keekee53 wrote...

Do you guys really think Kaidan will be a Spectre? I am not so sure. I totally believe Kaidan has the rank and skill to be a Spectre but I am having a hard time imagining Ashley being a Spectre due to her rank. According to Wiki, her title was Operations Chief in Mass Effect 2...Operations Chief to Spectre seems pretty farfetched. I know we try not to lump the two characters together but whether or not the VS is a Spectre would be something I think shared between the two characters. If Bioware decides to make the VS a Spectre, they better have a solid story for Ashley.

Kaidan can, no doubt, he has skill and a higher rank. But Ashley has the skill too, and the Spectre's are not Alliance, i'm sure they place skill over rank. In real life, a private in the British army can become a part of the S.A.S if he possessed the skill. Even if rank does matter, Ashley is a chief, she's basically a sergeant, for a soldier that is a very high rank, Kaidan likely joined as a officer, meaning he skipped the enlisted and NCO ranks.

Ps. I seen the Kaidan ME3 pic, he look's bad ass!

[BECC4]

Well put Funk, I totally agree, Ash would make an excellent Spectre but obviously in a totally different way to Kaidan. I also agree re the military credentials after all Garrus was earmarked as a potential Spectre and wasn't even in the military so the way I see it is it's the skill set that's important not rank in a given organisation and Ashley has certainly demonstrated her skills whilst working with Shepard and no doubt in the interim as well.

Either as the council or one of the council races humans would certainly be pushing for more human Spectres where better to start than with the team that took down Saren? Whether it be Kaidan or Ash that survived. Even if the council refute the Reaper existence Shep's team are still regarded as hero's as they stopped the Geth resistance. I suspect Anderson is simply under strict orders to keep the VS quiet about certain beliefs sort of an 'I believe you but don't shout about it til we can prove it' sort of arrangement.

[MICHELLE7]

Psara wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...


...Just did the Horizon bit again and again...it's funny...this is only my third complete playthrough and I've done that bit on Horizon at least 15 times...yes wanting to make sure I get just the right answers...not that the dialogue for it makes much difference as far as we know anyway.

I've been meaning to ask for ages: has anyone seen a dialogue tree for Horizon online?

I'd like to know that myself...I was looking online for one when I was replaying it and couldn't really find anything but then again I was in a hurry...wanted to get back to the game.

meonlyred wrote...

I imagine in the middle of the trial Kaidan
storms in throws Shepard over his shoulder and as he is stomping out,
Shepard waves happy as a little lamb to the shocked crowd.

no? Well that is how it plays out in this deranged mind. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png

:DWorks for me.

nranola wrote...

Cypher0020 wrote...

Spectres Kaidan and Shepard....... to me that is the ultimate form of badass......

I can only imagine family life with kids down the line....

"your parents are Spectres?!"

I wouldn't want to be that kid. Can you just imagine the pressure? xD

lol If the kid takes after Shep he/she will be able to handle the pressure...if I was Shep I'd have had nervous break down by now. Of course Kaidan handles the pressure pretty well himself.

Modifié par MICHELLE7, 07 mai 2011 - 11:59 .

[Jenova65]

I agree too, Funkcase............ I only wish I could have Ashley as well as Kaidan, she is always my Shepard's best friend and is a really capable soldier

Modifié par Jenova65, 07 mai 2011 - 10:57 .

[nranola]

Psara wrote...

I've been meaning to ask for ages: has anyone seen a dialogue tree for Horizon online?

Ask and you shall receive:

Romance dialogue.
Regular dialogue.

------

     Mechanic: No! Don't let them get away!

> It's too late.
     Shepard: There's nothing we can do. They're gone.
> What do you expect me to do?
     Shepard: That ship is huge. Exactly how are we supposed to catch it?

     Mechanic: Half the colony's in there! They took Egan and Sam and... and Lilith! Do something!

> I'm sorry.
     Shepard: I didn't want it to end this way. I did what I could.
     Party Member: <consoles Shepard>
> Blame them, not me.
     Shepard: I did my best. You just hid in your damned bunker.
     Party Member: <supports Shepard>

     Mechanic: Shepard? Wait. I know that name.
     Mechanic: Sure, I remember you. You're some type of big Alliance hero.
     Kaidan: Commander Shepard. Captain of the Normandy. The first human Spectre. Savior of the Citadel.
     Kaidan: You're in the presence of a legend, Delan. And a ghost.
     Mechanic: All the good people we lost, and you get left behind. Figures.
     Mechanic: Screw this. I'm done with you Alliance types.

     Kaidan: I thought you were dead, Shepard. We all did.
     Kaidan: I thought you were dead, Commander. We all did.

> It's good to see you again.
     Shepard: It's been too long, Kaidan. How've you been?
     Kaidan: Is that all you have to say? You show up after two years and just act like nothing happened.
> You sound angry.
     Shepard: You don't sound too happy to see me. Something bothering you, Kaidan?
     Kaidan: Yeah, something's bothering me. I spent the past two years believing you were dead!
> I was. We can't get into it.
     Shepard: A reunion has to wait. Cerberus brought me back to stop attacks like this.
     (Jump to *)

     Kaidan: I thought we had something, Shepard. Something real. I... I loved you.
     Kaidan: Thinking you were dead tore me apart. How could you put me through that?
     Kaidan: I would've followed you anywhere, Commander. Thinking you were gone... it was like losing a limb.
     Kaidan: Why didn't you try to contact me? Why didn't you let me know you were alive?

> I didn't want to hurt you.
     Shepard: I'm sorry, Kaidan. I was clinically dead. It took two years to bring me back.
     Shepard: So much time has passed. You've moved on. I don't want to reopen old wounds.
     (Jump to **)
> Too much time has passed.
     Shepard: I was out for two years. You've moved on with your career and your life. Why reopen old wounds?
     **Kaidan: I did move on. At least, I thought I did. But now we've got reports about you and Cerberus.
> I wasn't even conscious!
     Shepard: Not my choice. I spent the last two years in some kind of coma while Cerberus rebuilt me.
     *Kaidan: You're with Cerberus now? I can't believe the reports were right.
> I have important things to do.
     Shepard: You're still with the Alliance. You've turned a blind eye to the problem. But human colonies are disappearing. I'm trying to save them.
     Kaidan: Really? Is that what you're doing? Because I saw reports that you were working with Cerberus.

     Party Member: <questions reports>
     Kaidan: Alliance intel thought that Cerberus might be behind the missing human colonies. They got a tip this colony might be the next one to get hit.
     Kaidan: Anderson stonewalled me, but there were rumors that you weren't dead. That you were working for the enemy.

> Cerberus isn't the enemy.
     Shepard: Our colonies are disappearing. The Alliance turned its back on them. Cerberus is the only group willing to do something about it.
     Kaidan: You can't really believe that! We both know what Cerberus is like. What they're capable of.
> That's why you're on Horizon.
     Shepard: Building the defense towers was just a cover story. The Alliance sent you here to investigate me, didn't they?
     Kaidan: I was here for Cerberus. You were just a rumor.
> I don't work for Cerberus.
     Shepard: Cerberus and I want the same thing: to save our colonies. That doesn't mean I answer to them.
     Kaidan: Do you really believe that? Or is that just what Cerberus wants you to think?

     Kaidan: I wanted to believe the rumors that you were alive, but I never expected anything like this.
     Kaidan: You turned your back on everything we believed in. You betrayed the Alliance. You betrayed me.
     Kaidan: You turned your back on everything we stood for!

> I'm not a traitor.
     Shepard: Kaidan, you know me. You know I'd only do this for the right reason.
> Look at the big picture.
     Shepard: This isn't about me working for Cerberus, Kaidan. Something far more important is at stake.
> Get over it.
     Shepard: The past is done. You need to focus on what's happening now.

     Shepard: You saw it yourself. The Collectors are targetting human colonies and they're working with the Reapers.
     Kaidan: I want to believe you, Shepard. But I don't trust Cerberus. They could be using the threat of a Reaper to manipulate you.
     Kaidan: What if they're behind it? What if they're working with the Collectors?
     Party Member: <comment about Kaidan's doubts>

> You're too emotional, Kaidan.
     Shepard: You're letting how you feel about their history get in the way of the facts.
     Kaidan: Maybe. Or maybe you feel like you owe Cerberus because they saved you. Maybe you're the one who's not thinking straight.
> So you won't listen?
     Shepard: I can see you won't listen to reason.
     Kaidan: You show up after two years and tell me you're working with Cerberus. What does reason figure into any of this?

     Kaidan: You've changed. But I still know where my loyalties lie. I'm an Alliance solider. Always will be.
     Kaidan: I've got to report back to the Citadel. They can decide if they believe your story or not.

> Don't go. Join me.
     Shepard: I could use someone like you in my crew, Kaidan. It'll be just like old times.
     Kaidan: No, it won't. I'll never work for Cerberus.
> Goodbye.
     Shepard: So long, Kaidan.
     Kaidan: So long, Commander. Good luck.
     (Jump to ***)
> Fat chance.
     Shepard: We both know how that's gonna turn out. The Alliance will try to blame Cerberus just like you did.
     Kaidan: A leopard can't change its spots. Cerberus can't be trusted.

     Kaidan: Goodbye, Shepard. And be careful.

     ***Shepard: Joker -- send the shuttle to pick us up. I've had enough of this colony.

I'm not sure if the "So long, Commander." line only triggers with that particular dialogue option, or if the romance flag and gender has something to do with it. Everything else should be accurate.

Modifié par nranola, 07 mai 2011 - 12:06 .

[MICHELLE7]

BECC4 wrote...

Well put Funk, I totally agree, Ash would make an excellent Spectre but obviously in a totally different way to Kaidan. I also agree re the military credentials after all Garrus was earmarked as a potential Spectre and wasn't even in the military so the way I see it is it's the skill set that's important not rank in a given organisation and Ashley has certainly demonstrated her skills whilst working with Shepard and no doubt in the interim as well.

Either as the council or one of the council races humans would certainly be pushing for more human Spectres where better to start than with the team that took down Saren? Whether it be Kaidan or Ash that survived. Even if the council refute the Reaper existence Shep's team are still regarded as hero's as they stopped the Geth resistance. I suspect Anderson is simply under strict orders to keep the VS quiet about certain beliefs sort of an 'I believe you but don't shout about it til we can prove it' sort of arrangement.

I think that the council picked them based upon exceptional ability and self reliance if I recall. Both Kaidan and Ash had the exceptional ability from the start but I think they needed to get out from under the shadow of Shepard to really become self reliant. And no doubt they have proven themselves. They were probably sponsered by Anderson the same way he sponsered (if thats the word) Shepard. And at the mention of Garrus...I think he would still make a good Spectre.

[MICHELLE7]

nranola wrote...

Psara wrote...

I've been meaning to ask for ages: has anyone seen a dialogue tree for Horizon online?

Ask and you shall receive:

Romance dialogue.
Regular dialogue.

------

     Mechanic: No! Don't let them get away!

> It's too late.
     Shepard: There's nothing we can do. They're gone.
> What do you expect me to do?
     Shepard: That ship is huge. Exactly how are we supposed to catch it?

     Mechanic: Half the colony's in there! They took Egan and Sam and... and Lilith! Do something!

> I'm sorry.
     Shepard: I didn't want it to end this way. I did what I could.
     Party Member: <consoles Shepard>
> Blame them, not me.
     Shepard: I did my best. You just hid in your damned bunker.
     Party Member: <supports Shepard>

     Mechanic: Shepard? Wait. I know that name.
     Mechanic: Sure, I remember you. You're some type of big Alliance hero.
     Kaidan: Commander Shepard. Captain of the Normandy. The first human Spectre. Savior of the Citadel.
     Kaidan: You're in the presence of a legend, Delan. And a ghost.
     Mechanic: All the good people we lost, and you get left behind. Figures.
     Mechanic: Screw this. I'm done with you Alliance types.

     Kaidan: I thought you were dead, Shepard. We all did.
     Kaidan: I thought you were dead, Commander. We all did.

> It's good to see you again.
     Shepard: It's been too long, Kaidan. How've you been?
     Kaidan: Is that all you have to say? You show up after two years and just act like nothing happened.
> You sound angry.
     Shepard: You don't sound too happy to see me. Something bothering you, Kaidan?
     Kaidan: Yeah, something's bothering me. I spent the past two years believing you were dead!
> I was. We can't get into it.
     Shepard: A reunion has to wait. Cerberus brought me back to stop attacks like this.
     (Jump to *)

     Kaidan: I thought we had something, Shepard. Something real. I... I loved you.
     Kaidan: Thinking you were dead tore me apart. How could you put me through that?
     Kaidan: I would've followed you anywhere, Commander. Thinking you were gone... it was like losing a limb.
     Kaidan: Why didn't you try to contact me? Why didn't you let me know you were alive?

> I didn't want to hurt you.
     Shepard: I'm sorry, Kaidan. I was clinically dead. It took two years to bring me back.
     Shepard: So much time has passed. You've moved on. I don't want to reopen old wounds.
     (Jump to **)
> Too much time has passed.
     Shepard: I was out for two years. You've moved on with your career and your life. Why reopen old wounds?
     **Kaidan: I did move on. At least, I thought I did. But now we've got reports about you and Cerberus.
> I wasn't even conscious!
     Shepard: Not my choice. I spent the last two years in some kind of coma while Cerberus rebuilt me.
     *Kaidan: You're with Cerberus now? I can't believe the reports were right.
> I have important things to do.
     Shepard: You're still with the Alliance. You've turned a blind eye to the problem. But human colonies are disappearing. I'm trying to save them.
     Kaidan: Really? Is that what you're doing? Because I saw reports that you were working with Cerberus.

     Party Member: <questions reports>
     Kaidan: Alliance intel thought that Cerberus might be behind the missing human colonies. They got a tip this colony might be the next one to get hit.
     Kaidan: Anderson stonewalled me, but there were rumors that you weren't dead. That you were working for the enemy.

> Cerberus isn't the enemy.
     Shepard: Our colonies are disappearing. The Alliance turned its back on them. Cerberus is the only group willing to do something about it.
     Kaidan: You can't really believe that! We both know what Cerberus is like. What they're capable of.
> That's why you're on Horizon.
     Shepard: Building the defense towers was just a cover story. The Alliance sent you here to investigate me, didn't they?
     Kaidan: I was here for Cerberus. You were just a rumor.
> I don't work for Cerberus.
     Shepard: Cerberus and I want the same thing: to save our colonies. That doesn't mean I answer to them.
     Kaidan: Do you really believe that? Or is that just what Cerberus wants you to think?

     Kaidan: I wanted to believe the rumors that you were alive, but I never expected anything like this.
     Kaidan: You turned your back on everything we believed in. You betrayed the Alliance. You betrayed me.
     Kaidan: You turned your back on everything we stood for!

> I'm not a traitor.
     Shepard: Kaidan, you know me. You know I'd only do this for the right reason.
> Look at the big picture.
     Shepard: This isn't about me working for Cerberus, Kaidan. Something far more important is at stake.
> Get over it.
     Shepard: The past is done. You need to focus on what's happening now.

     Shepard: You saw it yourself. The Collectors are targetting human colonies and they're working with the Reapers.
     Kaidan: I want to believe you, Shepard. But I don't trust Cerberus. They could be using the threat of a Reaper to manipulate you.
     Kaidan: What if they're behind it? What if they're working with the Collectors?
     Party Member: <comment about Kaidan's doubts>

> You're too emotional, Kaidan.
     Shepard: You're letting how you feel about their history get in the way of the facts.
     Kaidan: Maybe. Or maybe you feel like you owe Cerberus because they saved you. Maybe you're the one who's not thinking straight.
> So you won't listen?
     Shepard: I can see you won't listen to reason.
     Kaidan: You show up after two years and tell me you're working with Cerberus. What does reason figure into any of this?

     Kaidan: You've changed. But I still know where my loyalties lie. I'm an Alliance solider. Always will be.
     Kaidan: I've got to report back to the Citadel. They can decide if they believe your story or not.

> Don't go. Join me.
     Shepard: I could use someone like you in my crew, Kaidan. It'll be just like old times.
     Kaidan: No, it won't. I'll never work for Cerberus.
> Goodbye.
     Shepard: So long, Kaidan.
     Kaidan: So long, Commander. Good luck.
     (Jump to ***)
> Fat chance.
     Shepard: We both know how that's gonna turn out. The Alliance will try to blame Cerberus just like you did.
     Kaidan: A leopard can't change its spots. Cerberus can't be trusted.

     Kaidan: Goodbye, Shepard. And be careful.

     ***Shepard: Joker -- send the shuttle to pick us up. I've had enough of this colony.

I'm not sure if the "So long, Commander." line only triggers with that particular dialogue option, or if the romance flag and gender has something to do with it. Everything else should be accurate.

A big thanks!:)Saves me a lot of searching.

I've never used the "Goodbye" option at the end...don't like him going back to calling her Commander...oooh flashback...remembered him calling her Shepard at the beacon on Eden Prime when he tried to get to her and Ash held him back...guess he was into her from the beginning. I will move on with my thoughts now...

Modifié par MICHELLE7, 07 mai 2011 - 12:22 .

[nranola]

[quote]MICHELLE7 wrote...

[quote]Cypher0020 wrote...

Spectres Kaidan and Shepard....... to me that is the ultimate form of badass......

I can only imagine family life with kids down the line....

"your parents are Spectres?!"

[/quote]
I wouldn't want to be that kid. Can you just imagine the pressure? xD[/quote]

lol If the kid takes after Shep he/she will be able to handle the pressure...if I was Shep I'd have had nervous break down by now. Of course Kaidan handles the pressure pretty well himself.

[/quote]
Hah, true enough. An L2 dad and a Prothean beacon-ized mom who have gone through all sorts of hell together. Handling the pressure will probably carry on to the child.

[quote]MICHELLE7 wrote...

A big thanks!:)Saves me a lot of searching.

I've never used the "Goodbye" option at the end...don't like him going back to calling her Commander...oooh flashback...remembered him calling her Shepard at the beacon on Eden Prime when he tried to get to her and Ash held him back...guess he was into her from the beginning. I will move on with my thoughts now...

[/quote]
You're welcome! I'm away from my gaming computer so I had to do something to keep me sane. xD

I'm not sure if he reverts to the Commander line on a romanced Shep if you choose the neutral response. I'll check my game when I get back home (won't be any time soon), if someone hasn't already done so by then.

I loved that scene! I was sold on the pairing from that point on. And don't forget the little smile he does in the Med Bay after that. <3

[MICHELLE7]

nranola wrote...

I loved that scene! I was sold on the pairing from that point on. And don't forget the little smile he does in the Med Bay after that. <3

Love his smile especially this one:

[ADLegend21]

I just got Kaidan's email after Horizon for my femshep (who romances Ashley in her canon PT) and it's adorable. She'll be staying faithful in this no relationship drama PT.

[MizzNaaa]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

nranola wrote...

I loved that scene! I was sold on the pairing from that point on. And don't forget the little smile he does in the Med Bay after that. <3

Love his smile especially this one:

That is the most adorable smile ever:wub::wub:

[nranola]

MizzNaaa wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

nranola wrote...

I loved that scene! I was sold on the pairing from that point on. And don't forget the little smile he does in the Med Bay after that. <3

Love his smile especially this one:

http://social.biowar...0/1137/2205.jpg

That is the most adorable smile ever:wub::wub:

Cute! <3 I like how he looks so innocent and angelic when he smiles and absolutely terrifying when he's pissed. Have you seen that look on his face on Horizon? Scary. >__<;;

From which scene/mission was that screenshot taken? I can't seem to recall seeing him smile apart from that Med Bay scene.

[blackashes411]

It's the cutscene after killing Saren/Sovereign once and for all, where, while Shep's squadmates and Anderson are freaking out that she might've died, she emerges and stands on top of the ship's wreckage, looking glorious and badass. One of her squadmates always looks up to Shep in that scene, smiling.

Luckily, it's Kaidan who does it in that scene.

Modifié par blackashes411, 07 mai 2011 - 11:30 .

[nranola]

blackashes411 wrote...

It's the cutscene after killing Saren/Sovereign once and for all, where, while Shep's squadmates and Anderson are freaking out that she might've died, she emerges and stands on top of the ship's wreckage, looking glorious and badass. One of her squadmates always looks up to Shep in that scene, smiling.

Luckily, it's Kaidan who does it in that scene.

Oh d'oh, how could I forget about that? No wonder he looks so happy. xD Thanks for jogging my memory.

[AkodoRyu]

Kaidan first smiled still on the bridge, on the very beginning of the game. I hope his eyes will be fixed in ME3 and more expressive though



Still, I don't know what this pixel guy did to me, but the more I think about ME3, the more I miss him. I don't have time to replay ME1, so I'm watching my recordings. Maybe it's just Sbarge, but even Horizon stopped sucking so much.

[Pups_of_war_76]

I just read some Shenko fic that was really good.

Now I just feel like nomming on Kaidan for a while.

Modifié par Pups_of_war_76, 08 mai 2011 - 07:11 .

[Fault Girl]

I cant wait till 2012 to see him, not fair

[AnimeAngel90]

Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

I just read some Shenko fic that was really good.

Now I just feel like nomming on Kaidan for a while.

Ooh, please share!

Uhh, I'll give you, um, a Kaidan plushie? (oh god wouldn't that be the most adorable thing ever )

[nranola]

AkodoRyu wrote...

Kaidan first smiled still on the bridge, on the very beginning of the game. I hope his eyes will be fixed in ME3 and more expressive though

http://i51.tinypic.com/2j13cow.jpg

Still, I don't know what this pixel guy did to me, but the more I think about ME3, the more I miss him. I don't have time to replay ME1, so I'm watching my recordings. Maybe it's just Sbarge, but even Horizon stopped sucking so much.

What? But... when? How? I'm guessing I didn't choose the right dialogue options in the cockpit?

ME2 was a great improvement on expressions; I'm almost certain that ME3 won't disappoint in that regard. But yeah, that cross-eyed bit on Horizon was odd to watch. xP