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I'm glad he's welcoming that input...Anders didn't bother me so much...because I romanced him as a MaleHawke...but I'm thinking if they back off pushing the LI's in your face I'll enjoy talking with the characters more...the Jacob interaction still bothers me.



I agree, I havent romanced Anders but he :ph34r:'s me everytime just because I'm nice. No-one else ever did, i dont mind s/s. Glad it's happening for those who want it. I just want romances to be unsaid unless I initiate, just like in ME2 no ninjaromances!! :wizard:


I just nothing like the Jacob situation please. I watched the videos of the romance and its a shame that I cant get past the initial beginning of the "I want to have sex with you here on this table" lean that FemShep does :crying:



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Casey Hudson just tweeted this on twitter:

"Happy to confirm #ME3 supports wider options for love interests incl. same-sex for m&f chars, reactive to how you interact w/them in-game."

Perhaps more people will begin to appreciate Kaidan if he's an LI for male Shepard? A girl can hope =)



Good news for people who wanted S/S, just feel bad that their romances won't run through all three games.

Now all I want at E3 is some video of Kaidan in game please, :wub:


IMO the M/F romance with Kaidan didn't really run through all three games...yeah our Sheps got to see him for an argument on Horizon...didn't really get ro romance him though.

I second that motion on some video of Kaidan in game...a screenshot...something...devs...please something.

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IMO the M/F romance with Kaidan didn't really run through all three games...yeah our Sheps got to see him for an argument on Horizon...didn't really get ro romance him though.



Good point.:wizard:

I just want to see him in his new gear, gonna be sweeeeet. B)

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Dont know why, but i like midle Kaidan the most


Because Kaidan looks hot in N7 armor? :lol:

What I found interesting when I was editing that was that Kaidan and Sheploo have very similar facial structure, like the shape and size of their noses, the shape and size of their mouths, the distance between eyes. Kaidan's jaw is a little bigger, Sheploo's eyes are set deeper, and their brow ridges are different, but there's a good deal of similarity.

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ZombieGeisha wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...


IMO the M/F romance with Kaidan didn't really run through all three games...yeah our Sheps got to see him for an argument on Horizon...didn't really get ro romance him though.



Good point.:wizard:

I just want to see him in his new gear, gonna be sweeeeet. B)




I just want to see him not wearing his new gear......... :wub::wub:

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noxpanda wrote...

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MICHELLE7 wrote...


IMO the M/F romance with Kaidan didn't really run through all three games...yeah our Sheps got to see him for an argument on Horizon...didn't really get ro romance him though.



Good point.:wizard:

I just want to see him in his new gear, gonna be sweeeeet. B)




I just want to see him not wearing his new gear......... :wub::wub:



HOW DARE YOU?!

Me too......

:wizard:

I hope love scenes are done like ME1, I don't want no fade to black. I know what sex is..:lol: or do i?

hmmmm

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ZombieGeisha wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...


I'm glad he's welcoming that input...Anders didn't bother me so much...because I romanced him as a MaleHawke...but I'm thinking if they back off pushing the LI's in your face I'll enjoy talking with the characters more...the Jacob interaction still bothers me.



I agree, I havent romanced Anders but he :ph34r:'s me everytime just because I'm nice. No-one else ever did, i dont mind s/s. Glad it's happening for those who want it. I just want romances to be unsaid unless I initiate, just like in ME2 no ninjaromances!! :wizard:


I just nothing like the Jacob situation please. I watched the videos of the romance and its a shame that I cant get past the initial beginning of the "I want to have sex with you here on this table" lean that FemShep does :crying:



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I did a save before I went to talk to him (thankfully) and when I heard how she responded to him I immediately quit and reloaded...I thought "that's not my Shep"...she seemed more out of character than on Horizon. Yeah that lean on the table puts me off too. I was a bad MaleHawke though...Anders was after Isabela and before Merrill...he was jealous all the way through the rest of the game...it was probably to most fun playthrough I had.

As for Shep...I can't see myself going all the way back through ME1 and ME2 with a MaleShep just so I can romance Kaidan...I'm very partial to Jennifer Hale as the voice of Shepard...I might be able to do one from scratch playthrough of ME3 with a MaleShep if I hear the S/S romance is really good...I'd miss her voice though.

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ZombieGeisha wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...


IMO the M/F romance with Kaidan didn't really run through all three games...yeah our Sheps got to see him for an argument on Horizon...didn't really get ro romance him though.



Good point.:wizard:

I just want to see him in his new gear, gonna be sweeeeet. B)




Or out of gear:whistle:

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noxpanda wrote...

ZombieGeisha wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...


IMO the M/F romance with Kaidan didn't really run through all three games...yeah our Sheps got to see him for an argument on Horizon...didn't really get ro romance him though.



Good point.:wizard:

I just want to see him in his new gear, gonna be sweeeeet. B)




I just want to see him not wearing his new gear......... :wub::wub:


You little minx...you beat me to it:lol:Well I guess we all have the same idea...works for me.

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I hope love scenes are done like ME1, I don't want no fade to black. I know what sex is..:lol: or do i?

hmmmm


I'm hoping said game which shall not be mentioned which shall be released Tuesday might possibly influence BW a little. Maybe if they don't get any negative feedback for their "skin" scenes BW will feel a little more free to return to the love scenes of ME1.

I just can't imagine going from what we had with Kaidan in ME1 to a fade to black. It would be a disappointment for sure at least for me.

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MICHELLE7 wrote...

noxpanda wrote...

ZombieGeisha wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...


IMO the M/F romance with Kaidan didn't really run through all three games...yeah our Sheps got to see him for an argument on Horizon...didn't really get ro romance him though.



Good point.:wizard:

I just want to see him in his new gear, gonna be sweeeeet. B)




I just want to see him not wearing his new gear......... :wub::wub:


You little minx...you beat me to it:lol:Well I guess we all have the same idea...works for me.


Me a minx?! I have no idea what your talking about! I.... erm....... Can't lie to save my life!
Hehehe Kaidan does look yummy in his new armour but he'll look so much yummier not wearing it! <3 I also support the return of the ME1 style love scenes the ME2 ones were dull by comparison! :?

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Kaidan looks like he's growling in this one...me kinda like that expression. Wonder what Sbarge would sound like growling?


Like it would cause this............
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Kaidan's voice always reminds me of the episode of Black Books where Fran meets Howell Granger, the man with the ridiculous sexy voice.

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Would people prefer Kaidan to be a bit more Han Solo/Kirk or should he go all gruff and serious like Solid Snake?  
He seemed a bit humorless in ME 1


I'm
not a fan or ST, so "Kirk" is a person unknown to me, but as far as I
know Snake, he always had something funny to say to the situation,
stupid handshakes with Hal, he liked women... Still, this concept
doesn't fit Kaidan whatsoever, if his personality changes, my intuition
says it won't be like that.


I agree. What I love about Kaidan's sense of humor is that it's entirely appropriate; he's a subordinate officer, he's very aware of his rank and position and the fact that he has to behave in a certain way publically because he represents the Alliance, and also because he's a stable L2 biotic. He's also very open-minded, tolerant, and respectful of other cultures and beliefs. If he always acted like a snarky action hero or a badass anti-hero, it would undermine what he stands for.

There's a C-Sec officer (Eddie Lang?) in the wards near the med clinic who gushes about Shepard when you talk to him; Kaidan mutters, "Looks like you have a fan." The delivery is perfect, and it's a perfect line for him IMO, because the teasing is directed at Shepard but it's not too forward. Kaidan is naturally pretty reserved, but I felt like in ME, he had to be even more reserved with Shepard because she's his CO; if he's the LI then he has to be more careful not to seem too familiar unless they're speaking privately, so several of his best lines are with Ashely, because he can be more open with her. I enjoyed it because it made the romance more believable, and it made Kaidan more adorable when he tripped up, and his quips seemed like a shared secret.

His sense of humor is still pretty dry, not morbid but he is definitely more sarcastic than jovial. I trust the writers to keep true to his character, but I would love to see more open flirtation and/or teasing now that he and Shepard are on more equal footing. It would also be great to see him joke with other squaddies, particularly Garrus, who I think has a similar sense of humor.

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His sense of humor is still pretty dry, not morbid but he is definitely more sarcastic than jovial. I trust the writers to keep true to his character, but I would love to see more open flirtation and/or teasing now that he and Shepard are on more equal footing. It would also be great to see him joke with other squaddies, particularly Garrus, who I think has a similar sense of humor.


This is another tweet by Casey just a little while ago:

I'm confident that our writing team will handle LI's in #ME3 with sophistication and perserve continuity.

While all that sounds good I do know they have changed character before...Anders and even Liara although they brought a little bit of her back for the DLC. I believe that the comment was directed toward a couple of comments that were concerned with changing the character of  certain LI's (Kaidan and Garrus I believe were mentioned) by making them s/s relationships. I can see where they could go wrong...Kaidan seemed pretty much in character for ME2...I don't want to see him stray too far from the guy we first met in ME1...as far as I was concerned he was the perfect LI.

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To be honest..none of the currently existing male love interests would really fit for M/M imo. The reason is that literally all of them had history with women already and all of their romances are quite tailored to females/female Shepard in the dialog.

Kaidan in particular...there's much pointing to the romance being with a woman. There's the story of Rana (the girl he had a crush on or a relationship with), his comments about Liara, the asari, the dancers in Chora's Den, reading novels where the main character explores space in search of a beautiful woman, "it's been a long time since a woman's made me feel..."

Generally speaking, the romances with the female love interests to tend to be far more gender neutral.

I'm at least a little skeptical of their ability to maintain character continuity and possibly opening up pre-existing love interests to the other gender.
Not that it's impossible to do it well, but I haven't fully liked how Mass Effect has approached certain things.

Horizon being one example.

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To be honest..none of the currently existing male love interests would really fit for M/M imo. The reason is that literally all of them had history with women already and all of their romances are quite tailored to females/female Shepard in the dialog.

Kaidan in particular...there's much pointing to the romance being with a woman. There's the story of Rana (the girl he had a crush on or a relationship with), his comments about Liara, the asari, the dancers in Chora's Den, reading novels where the main character explores space in search of a beautiful woman, "it's been a long time since a woman's made me feel..."

Generally speaking, the romances with the female love interests to tend to be far more gender neutral.

I'm at least a little skeptical of their ability to maintain character continuity and possibly opening up pre-existing love interests to the other gender.
Not that it's impossible to do it well, but I haven't fully liked how Mass Effect has approached certain things.

Horizon being one example.


Agreed. I worry about how they will handle this. If it's the whole DA2 approach all of a sudden, I am going to be disappointed. If they can create a completely new alien race for women, why can't they create new LI's  for s/s romances?
Is it so horribly wrong to have romances that are for straight men/women only or gay only?

Every character can change...but in this case, the change will only occur by a certain approach? Where's the credibility in that? I see Kaidan in a certain light, have known him for years now and he's my Shepard's only LI throughout a trilogy...but if I decide to go through the same trilogy as a male Shepard, Kaidan's going to change on me between ME2 and ME3 and only then?
Kaidan won't show any interest in a male Shepard for 2/3rd of the trilogy but if you come on to him in ME3, he'll do a 180 and be open to it with what...hidden feelings for male Shepard for alll these years?

I don't know....not a fan of the 'cameleon' characters like in DA2 that seem to change depending on your character. It feels strange somehow, even if you don't notice it unless you play both genders. I just prefer all different characters that cater to different gamers, this switching around feels like some bad Soap.

In the end I won't notice it in my playthrough and it will have no affect on my game, but it will affect my perception of a character.
I'm glad there will be s/s romances for the gay gamers though, don't get me wrong..took them a while to give us women romances too (and even equally as much)...I just hope it's handled well. If that's the case anyway, since Hudson's tweets are vague to say the least ;)

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Collider wrote...

To be honest..none of the currently existing male love interests would really fit for M/M imo. The reason is that literally all of them had history with women already and all of their romances are quite tailored to females/female Shepard in the dialog.

Kaidan in particular...there's much pointing to the romance being with a woman. There's the story of Rana (the girl he had a crush on or a relationship with), his comments about Liara, the asari, the dancers in Chora's Den, reading novels where the main character explores space in search of a beautiful woman, "it's been a long time since a woman's made me feel..."

Generally speaking, the romances with the female love interests to tend to be far more gender neutral.

I'm at least a little skeptical of their ability to maintain character continuity and possibly opening up pre-existing love interests to the other gender.
Not that it's impossible to do it well, but I haven't fully liked how Mass Effect has approached certain things.

Horizon being one example.


This is what's got me concerned and why I've started following Casey's tweets...I think Kaidan would have been alright as a M/M at the beginning if they had included that but after two games and his character being so well established I have to admit I'm worried...that's why I said I can see where they can go wrong.

I'm not opposed to M/M...like I said I romanced Anders as a MaleHawke but unlike most DA fans I hadn't played Awakenings and I didn't know his previous character. That change in character really upset some people and when they made him a M/M romance even more so. I will feel their pain if they do the same thing to Kaidan.

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Agreed. I worry about how they will handle this. If it's the whole DA2 approach all of a sudden, I am going to be disappointed. If they can create a completely new alien race for women, why can't they create new LI's  for s/s romances?
Is it so horribly wrong to have romances that are for straight men/women only or gay only?

Every character can change...but in this case, the change will only occur by a certain approach? Where's the credibility in that? I see Kaidan in a certain light, have known him for years now and he's my Shepard's only LI throughout a trilogy...but if I decide to go through the same trilogy as a male Shepard, Kaidan's going to change on me between ME2 and ME3 and only then?
Kaidan won't show any interest in a male Shepard for 2/3rd of the trilogy but if you come on to him in ME3, he'll do a 180 and be open to it with what...hidden feelings for male Shepard for alll these years?

I don't know....not a fan of the 'cameleon' characters like in DA2 that seem to change depending on your character. It feels strange somehow, even if you don't notice it unless you play both genders. I just prefer all different characters that cater to different gamers, this switching around feels like some bad Soap.

In the end I won't notice it in my playthrough and it will have no affect on my game, but it will affect my perception of a character.
I'm glad there will be s/s romances for the gay gamers though, don't get me wrong..took them a while to give us women romances too (and even equally as much)...I just hope it's handled well. If that's the case anyway, since Hudson's tweets are vague to say the least ;)


I think that when it comes down to it... an s/s romance in itself would be out of character for some of the LI's and if they force it just to appease certain fans it will destroy that LI's character. At least one of the tweets back to Casey made that point and I hope he seriously considers it. There has been talk of new LI's now so it may be that this might not even affect the old ones.

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I think that when it comes down to it... an s/s romance in itself would be out of character for some of the LI's and if they force it just to appease certain fans it will destroy that LI's character. At least one of the tweets back to Casey made that point and I hope he seriously considers it. There has been talk of new LI's now so it may be that this might not even affect the old ones.


Yeah, his tweets are rather contradicting...but he's basically tweeting whatever information he's allowed to share, even if that information is subject to change. Confusing for us though.
Sometimes I think Kaidan's permanent squad status isn't as permanent either if you read some of the tweets. And then he tweets that we shouldn't believe all that's being said or printed...so...does that apply to his twitter account to then? :P

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The devs have said "don't believe everything you read" before about things that were actually true and did actually happen in game.

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Jhosephine wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

I think that when it comes down to it... an s/s romance in itself would be out of character for some of the LI's and if they force it just to appease certain fans it will destroy that LI's character. At least one of the tweets back to Casey made that point and I hope he seriously considers it. There has been talk of new LI's now so it may be that this might not even affect the old ones.


Yeah, his tweets are rather contradicting...but he's basically tweeting whatever information he's allowed to share, even if that information is subject to change. Confusing for us though.
Sometimes I think Kaidan's permanent squad status isn't as permanent either if you read some of the tweets. And then he tweets that we shouldn't believe all that's being said or printed...so...does that apply to his twitter account to then? :P


He's driving me crazy...yeah I picked up on the thing about maybe not being permanent. So I go back and forth being estatic to biting my fingernails and worrying. Thankful my game comes in this week...keep my mind partially off of ME3 and whether we will get "our" Kaidan back.

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The devs have said "don't believe everything you read" before about things that were actually true and did actually happen in game.


No kidding...they like to toy with us.

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Collider wrote...

The devs have said "don't believe everything you read" before about things that were actually true and did actually happen in game.


Which means we don't know what to believe:pinched: Like I said I think they enjoy teasing us or maybe that's tormenting.It's going to be a long time till 2012.:(

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Jhosephine wrote...

Collider wrote...

The devs have said "don't believe everything you read" before about things that were actually true and did actually happen in game.


No kidding...they like to toy with us.


Once again someone beats me to it...is it the forum or my browser in the fritz here...

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Looks like they are having the same discussion over on the Ash thread about s/s that we are...I was wondering if they were as concerned...seem to be stating the same thing that her character is already established and that to change her orientation now would change her character.