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[Raven_26]

fhsocc3rchick wrote...

I'm sorry that this is off topic, but I had to tell someone about this thought. I've always wondered who would play kaidan in a live action movie and I think I finally found someone who would fit. It's an actor from the first resident evil movie, Martin Crewes. http://t0.gstatic.co...EgCOeoxHwYOl48I

Oh nice. My hubby is convinsed that Kaidan is modeled after casey hudson, so now every time I see an interwie with Casey I try to look for similarities with Kaidan lol

[Jhourney]

ZombieGeisha wrote...

At least we know by the gamplay when we first meet Kaidan. Hearing Ashley's voice over the radio and I was like that'd be Kaidan in my game wohoo!
it's looking good but March? *runs and tries to make time machine*

Indeed, it's easy to swap out Ash with Kaidan and from the background pic at Casey's presentation and the stuff we see in the demos, I'm pretty sure Kaidan will be with us at the start and then actually join us (or rather Shepard joins him ) after the Earth thing. I'm assuming the pic with Ash and Shepard in a car(?) is them getting to the trial though but it could be from later in the game
In any case, the game starts with a bang that's for sure and it's great that we'll be hearing Anderson talking to Kaidan and seeing him come to our rescue....I'll be a puddle of goo from the start, with my jaw dropping down to the basement while watching those first scenes

So Anderson calls Ash lieutenant...what does that mean for Kaidan? What rank will he get in ME3? 

[mineralica]

The moment with Ash and Shepard in a car has one strange detail - Shepard's jaw. It looks like he didn't shave for at least two days - hard to imagine he forgot about this while on Normandy, so it's likely either between interrogation and trial or after the rescue.

And the emptiness of this page lead me into the darkest corners of this thread:

Not really bad corners, though

[AnimeAngel90]

Jhosephine wrote...

ZombieGeisha wrote...

At least we know by the gamplay when we first meet Kaidan. Hearing Ashley's voice over the radio and I was like that'd be Kaidan in my game wohoo!
it's looking good but March? *runs and tries to make time machine*

Indeed, it's easy to swap out Ash with Kaidan and from the background pic at Casey's presentation and the stuff we see in the demos, I'm pretty sure Kaidan will be with us at the start and then actually join us (or rather Shepard joins him ) after the Earth thing. I'm assuming the pic with Ash and Shepard in a car(?) is them getting to the trial though but it could be from later in the game
In any case, the game starts with a bang that's for sure and it's great that we'll be hearing Anderson talking to Kaidan and seeing him come to our rescue....I'll be a puddle of goo from the start, with my jaw dropping down to the basement while watching those first scenes

So Anderson calls Ash lieutenant...what does that mean for Kaidan? What rank will he get in ME3? 

I think I saw someone speculating that Anderson was actually calling Joker "lieutenant"? We do know that is Joker's title, and I thought Ashley would be higher in rank than that by this game - especially with all the Specter rumours flying around. But its hard to tell exactly what Anderson is saying (though you can clearly hear Ashley's voice, yay!). Why do these people always talk over the demos? 

In other news, I need to stop taking Ashley and Kaidan everywhere. I shall be devastated on Virmire and left with only half of my current team of awesome. But I adore Kaidan and I feel bad for Ashley about the whole Virmire thing and its just too hard to pick someone else

[Jhourney]

AnimeAngel90 wrote...

I think I saw someone speculating that Anderson was actually calling Joker "lieutenant"? We do know that is Joker's title, and I thought Ashley would be higher in rank than that by this game - especially with all the Specter rumours flying around. But its hard to tell exactly what Anderson is saying (though you can clearly hear Ashley's voice, yay!). Why do these people always talk over the demos? 

In other news, I need to stop taking Ashley and Kaidan everywhere. I shall be devastated on Virmire and left with only half of my current team of awesome. But I adore Kaidan and I feel bad for Ashley about the whole Virmire thing and its just too hard to pick someone else

But Anderson never calls Joker by his rank, well not unless he's angry with him..Joker is just Joker to him...I think. If they promote Ash through the roof, the same has to be done for Kaidan and what will that make him? Admiral? I have no idea...he was a staff commander in ME2 so that would mean he could be Captain Alenko in ME3? That's just with 1 rank I think, otherwise he's heading for admiral...and I prefer the sound of captain over admiral

[AnimeAngel90]

This is where my lack of knowledge in this game world bites me a little XD Perhaps Joker is trying to tell them he can't land straight away and Anderson's just frustrated and worried? Or your idea makes much more sense!

Ranking systems in this game confuse me a little though - though if it Ashley he's talking to, and the VS does become a Spectre, looks like it might not be from the beginning of the game then. I mean, its not like everyone calls Shepard "Spectre" but after Shep becomes a Spectre they don't call her by her real rank anymore. When she gets the normandy, isn't she technically a Captain then? Gah, I should just play more!

And oh yes, Captain Alenko does sound good

[meonlyred]

3 ranks in almost as many years. That is a lot. I thought he was talking to Joker or maybe Vega?

[noxpanda]

I presumed Anderson was talking to Joker since hes a flight leiutenant (spelling?) but it was difficult to hear what he was saying. Also i imagine its more important to talk to joker than keep talking to ash, since hes the one flying the normandy (i presume).
Lol i hope they haven't promoted the VS again, the normandy ain't that large and theres already an admiral, two lt commanders (shep and kaidan) at this rate if they keep promoting everyone theres gonna be an all out war for who gets the loft!
Also they should promote joker already! I don't actually know if there is a higher rank for a pilot, but hes def earned a few promotions!

[Homebound]

Why the hell is Ashley in the E3 trailer Alenko-thread? D:<

[noxpanda]

Hellbound555 wrote...

Why the hell is Ashley in the E3 trailer Alenko-thread? D:<

Why not?
We do occasionally talk about people other than Kaidan, not for very long admittedley... :innocent:


*edit* Oh i just got the gist of what you were asking! I'm guessing its because they are trying to even out time between the VS, so since kaidan's been in the first pics, ash gets the first screentime. Thats my theory anyhow

Modifié par noxpanda, 07 juin 2011 - 11:08 .

[Raven_26]

Jhosephine wrote...

AnimeAngel90 wrote...

I think I saw someone speculating that Anderson was actually calling Joker "lieutenant"? We do know that is Joker's title, and I thought Ashley would be higher in rank than that by this game - especially with all the Specter rumours flying around. But its hard to tell exactly what Anderson is saying (though you can clearly hear Ashley's voice, yay!). Why do these people always talk over the demos? 

In other news, I need to stop taking Ashley and Kaidan everywhere. I shall be devastated on Virmire and left with only half of my current team of awesome. But I adore Kaidan and I feel bad for Ashley about the whole Virmire thing and its just too hard to pick someone else

But Anderson never calls Joker by his rank, well not unless he's angry with him..Joker is just Joker to him...I think. If they promote Ash through the roof, the same has to be done for Kaidan and what will that make him? Admiral? I have no idea...he was a staff commander in ME2 so that would mean he could be Captain Alenko in ME3? That's just with 1 rank I think, otherwise he's heading for admiral...and I prefer the sound of captain over admiral

If you remember back to ME1 "Joker's" full name and rank is, Flight Lieutenant Jeff Moreau, and yes Anderson does call him by rank is ME1 when he makes that comment about nihlus lol

Edit: Ups to late XD

Modifié par Raven_26, 07 juin 2011 - 12:23 .

[Jhourney]

Raven_26 wrote...

If you remember back to ME1 "Joker's" full name and rank is, Flight Lieutenant Jeff Moreau, and yes Anderson does call him by rank is ME1 when he makes that comment about nihlus lol

Edit: Ups to late XD

Yes I know Joker's rank, but it's Ash you hear talking to Anderson in the demo I believe..hence the discussion about her being promoted yet again. Or maybe Anderson is just calling Joker and getting Ashley *chuckles* I don't know, it's all speculation. I don't get the rank stuff anyway since Shepard is still Commander since the start of ME1 and has done tons to earn a promotion...or maybe she did since there are two(?) commander ranks. There was time to slap a promotion on her between the end of ME1 and her dying in ME2.
No clue, I seriously hope Kaidan is still Commander Alenko....love the ring of that  Same goes for Shepard, would love for her to still be Commander Shepard in ME3...no point in changing it for the last game if you ask me

Modifié par Jhosephine, 07 juin 2011 - 12:30 .

[Raven_26]

Jhosephine wrote...

Raven_26 wrote...

If you remember back to ME1 "Joker's" full name and rank is, Flight Lieutenant Jeff Moreau, and yes Anderson does call him by rank is ME1 when he makes that comment about nihlus lol

Edit: Ups to late XD

Yes I know Joker's rank, but it's Ash you hear talking to Anderson in the demo I believe..hence the discussion about her being promoted yet again. Or maybe Anderson is just calling Joker and getting Ashley *chuckles* I don't know, it's all speculation. I don't get the rank stuff anyway since Shepard is still Commander since the start of ME1 and has done tons to earn a promotion...or maybe she did since there are two(?) commander ranks. There was time to slap a promotion on her between the end of ME1 and her dying in ME2.
No clue, I seriously hope Kaidan is still Commander Alenko....love the ring of that  Same goes for Shepard, would love for her to still be Commander Shepard in ME3...no point in changing it for the last game if you ask me

Ahh sorry my bad, when I saw the demo I thought he was calling Joker, Ash did anwser didn't she?
Hmm, so if Ash has been promoted yet again, has Kaidan be to?
I
don't think Shep has gone up in Rank, in ME1, Shep is a Specter and not
sure if the Alliance can still give her promotions since technely s/he
doesn't anwser to the Alliance. And in ME2 s/he dies and is "working
with" Cerberus, and in ME3 is on earth for a trial?

Very confusing with the ranks XD

[thirteenthchime]

Raven_26 wrote...

Ahh sorry my bad, when I saw the demo I thought he was calling Joker, Ash did anwser didn't she?
Hmm, so if Ash has been promoted yet again, has Kaidan be to?
I
don't think Shep has gone up in Rank, in ME1, Shep is a Specter and not
sure if the Alliance can still give her promotions since technely s/he
doesn't anwser to the Alliance. And in ME2 s/he dies and is "working
with" Cerberus, and in ME3 is on earth for a trial?

Very confusing with the ranks XD

In the demo, Anderson radios the Normandy and Ash responds  
Ash: Admiral, what's you're location?
Anderson: I have [shuttle/Shepard?] I'm activating ??? Lieutenant [???]  
-transmission cuts out-
Anderson: Lieutenant, can you hear me? 

So in the context of the scene, he was speaking with Ashley. It's possible that he switches mid-conversation and tries to converse with Joker, but keep in mind that Jeff left the Alliance fleet to join Cerberus. I don't doubt he will be reinstated or that he's piloting the Normandy, but it is something that lends a little more credence to the idea that Anderson is speaking to Ashley.

Ashley's promotion makes sense in light of her being a Spectre - she goes from NCO to a commissioned officer. I mentioned on the LJ group that I can picture some Alliance bureaucrat somewhere grousing over the idea of an NCO being a Spectre and the need for Ash to become an officer for the prestige factor alone (if she hadn't already been commissioned before then). Also, especially in light of her family history, making the jump from NCO to Lieutenant is a big deal and a nice arc for Ash. Not sure that they would feel the similar need to promote Kaidan yet again since he's already jumped two ranks [Staff Lieutenant ->Lieutenant Commander ->Staff Commander] whereas Ash went [Gunnery Chief ->Operations Chief-> Lieutenant]. Presumably Ash is only a 2nd Lieutenant at this point. And while I'm discussing rank, Captain Anderson is now Admiral Anderson  

Also, I was always under the impression that Shepard, despite being a Spectre, is still very much so under the authority of the Alliance. She/he doesn't have to be since Spectres are above the law in many ways, but rather, Shepard chooses to continue to be Alliance. Theoretically, Shepard could have left the Alliance Navy after being made a Spectre, but it makes sense for both parties to continue the relationship - after all, the Alliance gives Shepard resources (the Normandy and her crew) where the Council does not, and in return the Alliance gets a special operative who can work outside of the political/diplomatic system when necessary, but whom they can always disavow as working directly for them. 

Modifié par thirteenthchime, 07 juin 2011 - 02:34 .

[syllogi]

Hellbound555 wrote...

Why the hell is Ashley in the E3 trailer Alenko-thread? D:<

Why would it bother you?  

Whether people like it or not, Ashley and Kaidan are forever tied together, at least as far as their roles in the story, after Virmire.  When we see Ashley in marketing material for ME3, we're going to talk about it, and we're going to speculate about how Kaidan will be portrayed in those same scenes.  It's natural.  I would expect the same sort of discussion would go on in the Ashley thread, much like there was when it was discovered that Kaidan has a Spectre symbol on his new armor.  As we've seen from the new demo footage, Ashley is indeed also a Spectre.

As long as they're written as separate characters, with their own distinct personalities, I don't mind the fact that their roles are going to be identical.  So yeah, everything we see about Ashley from now on, will be relevant to Kaidan.

[Raven_26]

thirteenthchime wrote...

Raven_26 wrote...

Ahh sorry my bad, when I saw the demo I thought he was calling Joker, Ash did anwser didn't she?
Hmm, so if Ash has been promoted yet again, has Kaidan be to?
I
don't think Shep has gone up in Rank, in ME1, Shep is a Specter and not
sure if the Alliance can still give her promotions since technely s/he
doesn't anwser to the Alliance. And in ME2 s/he dies and is "working
with" Cerberus, and in ME3 is on earth for a trial?

Very confusing with the ranks XD

In the demo, Anderson radios the Normandy and Ash responds  
Ash: Admiral, what's you're location?
Anderson: I have [shuttle/Shepard?] I'm activating ??? Lieutenant [???]  
-transmission cuts out-
Anderson: Lieutenant, can you hear me? 

So in the context of the scene, he was speaking with Ashley. It's possible that he switches mid-conversation and tries to converse with Joker, but keep in mind that Jeff left the Alliance fleet to join Cerberus. I don't doubt he will be reinstated or that he's piloting the Normandy, but it is something that lends a little more credence to the idea that Anderson is speaking to Ashley.

Ashley's promotion makes sense in light of her being a Spectre - she goes from NCO to a commissioned officer. I mentioned on the LJ group that I can picture some Alliance bureaucrat somewhere grousing over the idea of an NCO being a Spectre and the need for Ash to become an officer for the prestige factor alone (if she hadn't already been commissioned before then). Also, especially in light of her family history, making the jump from NCO to Lieutenant is a big deal and a nice arc for Ash. Not sure that they would feel the similar need to promote Kaidan yet again since he's already jumped two ranks [Staff Lieutenant ->Lieutenant Commander ->Staff Commander] whereas Ash went [Gunnery Chief ->Operations Chief-> Lieutenant]. Presumably Ash is only a 2nd Lieutenant at this point. And while I'm discussing rank, Captain Anderson is now Admiral Anderson  

Also, I was always under the impression that Shepard, despite being a Spectre, is still very much so under the authority of the Alliance. She/he doesn't have to be since Spectres are above the law in many ways, but rather, Shepard chooses to continue to be Alliance. Theoretically, Shepard could have left the Alliance Navy after being made a Spectre, but it makes sense for both parties to continue the relationship - after all, the Alliance gives Shepard resources (the Normandy and her crew) where the Council does not, and in return the Alliance gets a special operative who can work outside of the political/diplomatic system when necessary, but whom they can always disavow as working directly for them. 

Hmm, exelent points. That leaves some food for thought, I had not thought of it like that, but yes it kinda makes sence.

[Fiery Phoenix]

There is also the fact that ManShep is the version of Shepard portrayed in advertisements and commercials. We know Kaidan tends to be tied with FemShep, who is basically non-existent as far as marketing goes. This, however, could mean a chance to see Kaidan in-game as part of the supposedly upcoming FemShep trailer.

[noxpanda]

thirteenthchime wrote...

Raven_26 wrote...

Ahh sorry my bad, when I saw the demo I thought he was calling Joker, Ash did anwser didn't she?
Hmm, so if Ash has been promoted yet again, has Kaidan be to?
I
don't think Shep has gone up in Rank, in ME1, Shep is a Specter and not
sure if the Alliance can still give her promotions since technely s/he
doesn't anwser to the Alliance. And in ME2 s/he dies and is "working
with" Cerberus, and in ME3 is on earth for a trial?

Very confusing with the ranks XD

In the demo, Anderson radios the Normandy and Ash responds  
Ash: Admiral, what's you're location?
Anderson: I have [shuttle/Shepard?] I'm activating ??? Lieutenant [???]  
-transmission cuts out-
Anderson: Lieutenant, can you hear me? 

So in the context of the scene, he was speaking with Ashley. It's possible that he switches mid-conversation and tries to converse with Joker, but keep in mind that Jeff left the Alliance fleet to join Cerberus. I don't doubt he will be reinstated or that he's piloting the Normandy, but it is something that lends a little more credence to the idea that Anderson is speaking to Ashley.

Ashley's promotion makes sense in light of her being a Spectre - she goes from NCO to a commissioned officer. I mentioned on the LJ group that I can picture some Alliance bureaucrat somewhere grousing over the idea of an NCO being a Spectre and the need for Ash to become an officer for the prestige factor alone (if she hadn't already been commissioned before then). Also, especially in light of her family history, making the jump from NCO to Lieutenant is a big deal and a nice arc for Ash. Not sure that they would feel the similar need to promote Kaidan yet again since he's already jumped two ranks [Staff Lieutenant ->Lieutenant Commander ->Staff Commander] whereas Ash went [Gunnery Chief ->Operations Chief-> Lieutenant]. Presumably Ash is only a 2nd Lieutenant at this point. And while I'm discussing rank, Captain Anderson is now Admiral Anderson  

Also, I was always under the impression that Shepard, despite being a Spectre, is still very much so under the authority of the Alliance. She/he doesn't have to be since Spectres are above the law in many ways, but rather, Shepard chooses to continue to be Alliance. Theoretically, Shepard could have left the Alliance Navy after being made a Spectre, but it makes sense for both parties to continue the relationship - after all, the Alliance gives Shepard resources (the Normandy and her crew) where the Council does not, and in return the Alliance gets a special operative who can work outside of the political/diplomatic system when necessary, but whom they can always disavow as working directly for them. 

Joker bloody better be the pilot of the normandy, else all my sheps are going on strike and joining up for indocrination fun and frolicks!

Every half way decent ship needs its snarky pilot!

I'm fairly sure i heard Joker on the legion vid though, so i'm pretty sure hes back in his pilot of the normandy role.

Am i the only one whos really begrudging the alliance taking the normandy and messing with shep's stuff and painting their logos and terrible colours all over it? I'm really hoping i get an in game option to either nick the normandy back and strip all that terrible blue off the walls or the option to renegade punch whatever alliance fool thought it was a good idea to mess with shep's ship!


*edit* Damn my reading sucks today! Just realised you said 'don't doubt' which i read as 'doubt' Bleh! Well hopefully half of that post made at least some vague sense.....

Modifié par noxpanda, 07 juin 2011 - 04:06 .

[Sialater]

According to the Joker thread, Seth Green's been tweeting about his VO work for ME.

So, yes, he's back.

And with that... I begin my spoiler hiatus. See y'all in March 2012, except for fic updates.

[noxpanda]

Did someone say theres supposed to be some more ME3 stuff coming from E3? Or was that it for the ME excitement for a few weeks?

[syllogi]

noxpanda wrote...

Did someone say theres supposed to be some more ME3 stuff coming from E3? Or was that it for the ME excitement for a few weeks?

According to IGN's schedule of events, there is a Mass Effect 3 presentation today at 4 pm Eastern time.  I haven't heard anything about what will be included, but we haven't seen all the demos yet, have we?

[Fiery Phoenix]

There is at least one more demo yet to see the light.

[irJessica]

I've just noticed the release date for Europe.
I'm quite gutted I have to wait an extra 3 days.
And stay off the internet for 3 days

[noxpanda]

Yay to more stuff from E3!
Booo! to getting ME3 later than the states!

Oh i saw you guys nattering about alt appearances packs with the CE, have they said if the alt app pack will be available to purchase seperately? Cos i can't really afford the CE at the moment, so i'd prefer to just buy standard edition and the alt app pack seperately.

[Jean]

Speaking of Sheploo, he definitely looks a lot more... sympathetic to me this game. Like a more of a real person.