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Kaidan Alenko Support Thread Part 3


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#7776
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Hellbound555 wrote...

im an avid tali fan so i dont keep up on the downlow on kaidan as much. any news on our favourite vs on the citadel?

Nothing new, unfortunately.

To be fair, there hasn't been that much Ashley "love" either...

I'd disagree with that. She got a full reveal of her new outfit looks like, and her role in the story. At E3 no less.
She's once again overshadowing Kaidan.

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Collider wrote...


To be fair, there hasn't been that much Ashley "love" either...

I'd disagree with that. She got a full reveal of her new outfit looks like, and her role in the story. At E3 no less.
She's once again overshadowing Kaidan.


I must agree with Collider. Ash got a lot more of exposure than Kaidan did.

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It's true, Ashley was on the cover and in the dmeo of ME1 and of course her new pic was the talk of the BSN. but It was on kaidan's pic in the PS3 magazine that mentioned that he and Ash are spectre's. I would hae loved for Kaidan to have been in the demo, but of course GArrus was in the supporting male role, AGAIN.

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Hi Everyone, when they were doing to E3 demos they showed Garrus’ and Liara’s Power Screen I noticed that they have a Paragon and Renegade bar. In Me1 and 2 only Shepard had that bar. 
 
Does this mean that Kaidan and the other squad mates can earn Paragon and Renegade points? Can Shep influence and intimidate Kaidan into more Renegade or Paragon decisions? Or will it only influence Kaidan’s relationship with Shep? Can they have a Paragon Relationship or Renegade Relationship similar to the Friendship/Rivalry relationship we see in DA2? 
 
It also begs the questions, can we have a Renegade or Paragon Romance with Kaidan (Renemance/Paramance????)  

 So many questions!  It will be interesting to see what they will do. I can’t wait until March!!!!  Image IPB

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drsxf7 wrote...

Hi Everyone, when they were doing to E3 demos they showed Garrus’ and Liara’s Power Screen I noticed that they have a Paragon and Renegade bar. In Me1 and 2 only Shepard had that bar. 
 
Does this mean that Kaidan and the other squad mates can earn Paragon and Renegade points? Can Shep influence and intimidate Kaidan into more Renegade or Paragon decisions? Or will it only influence Kaidan’s relationship with Shep? Can they have a Paragon Relationship or Renegade Relationship similar to the Friendship/Rivalry relationship we see in DA2? 
 
It also begs the questions, can we have a Renegade or Paragon Romance with Kaidan (Renemance/Paramance????)  

 So many questions!  It will be interesting to see what they will do. I can’t wait until March!!!!  Image IPB


Well, we have been promised that ME3 will feature "the most comprehensive, *big-marketing-words* dialogue system ever featured in a Mass Effect game", whatever that means. Maybe squadmates will get their own paragon/renegade scores.

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Friendship/Rivalry romance isn't really something I want them to borrow from Dragon Age 2.
I wouldn't object to it if it had been there since ME1, but it hasn't.

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Collider wrote...

Friendship/Rivalry romance isn't really something I want them to borrow from Dragon Age 2.
I wouldn't object to it if it had been there since ME1, but it hasn't.


There's a couple of things I don't want them to import from DA2, but that would be getting off-topic.

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I don't think that the Paragon/Renegade is anything new. Pushing Garrus to be less Punisher and more Batman.... Pushing Kaidan/Ash to be more or less xenophobic... Those were clearly Paragon/Renegade influences, but now we'll be able to clearly track it.

For Kaidan, I have no idea what to expect in terms of character development or Paragon/Renegade paths. Think they'll hit up the xenophobia again?

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Those were clearly Paragon/Renegade influences, but now we'll be able to clearly track it.

Do we know for certain? The UI itself doesn't necessarily mean anything.

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Collider wrote...

Those were clearly Paragon/Renegade influences, but now we'll be able to clearly track it.

Do we know for certain? The UI itself doesn't necessarily mean anything.


Well, no, I don't know if that's what's going to happen for certain, but that would be my guess. In ME2, Garrus remembered if you pushed him to be Paragon or Renegade back in ME1. So, my guess is that each character's Paragon/Renegade scores will increase based on how Shepard interacts with him or her. For Garrus, it'll probably be about going rogue again... For Liara, it'll probably be Shadow Broker stuff... But Kaidan? I don't even know.

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According to the save game editor it's remembered. I even tweaked it a few times myself. Ash/Kaidan can only be renegaded/paragon'd if you romance them though. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 09 juin 2011 - 01:07 .


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Really? I can't find the flags/value for paragon or renegade Kaidan/Ashley. Just for Garrus.

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drsxf7 wrote...

Hi Everyone, when they were doing to E3 demos they showed Garrus’ and Liara’s Power Screen I noticed that they have a Paragon and Renegade bar. In Me1 and 2 only Shepard had that bar. 
 
Does this mean that Kaidan and the other squad mates can earn Paragon and Renegade points? Can Shep influence and intimidate Kaidan into more Renegade or Paragon decisions? Or will it only influence Kaidan’s relationship with Shep? Can they have a Paragon Relationship or Renegade Relationship similar to the Friendship/Rivalry relationship we see in DA2? 
 
It also begs the questions, can we have a Renegade or Paragon Romance with Kaidan (Renemance/Paramance????)  

 So many questions!  It will be interesting to see what they will do. I can’t wait until March!!!!  Image IPB


Whoooooa nice catch! I wouldn't put it past BioWare to pull that. I think that would be pretty cool, especially it means more in depth relationships. 

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How many other people here are total spelling-****s (and I don't use that term lightly) when it comes to Kaidan's name? There are times when I don't want to be like "you're doing it wrong", and then there are the countless times on tumblr that I've gotten up in people's grills about it...:o

I just don't understand why it's so hard...D:<

#7790
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I've seen it so much that it doesn't bother me.
I've taken a look at the game files...for both ME1 and ME2, Kaidan's name is misspelled in them as "Kaiden." And in the male Shepard version of genesis, his name is misspelled there too.

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Its like "Gray" and "Grey" both are technically right, just depending on where you are from. But yes "Kaiden" is a knee-jerk for me too.

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Collider wrote...

Those were clearly Paragon/Renegade influences, but now we'll be able to clearly track it.

Do we know for certain? The UI itself doesn't necessarily mean anything.


Here you go:

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/78652178599915520
"Just watched your @gamespot piece from earlier, did I see right that squadmates have their own Paragon/Renegade meters? #ME3"

"Yea, we wanted to show some of the RPG stuff, but screens aren't done. Squad renegade/paragon won't be there."

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 09 juin 2011 - 02:43 .


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Thanks for clearing that up, Vertigo. I'm glad the squad members don't have their own meter.

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... :lol:

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Collider wrote...


Those were clearly Paragon/Renegade influences, but now we'll be able to clearly track it.

Do we know for certain? The UI itself doesn't necessarily mean anything.


Here you go:

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/78652178599915520
"Just watched your @gamespot piece from earlier, did I see right that squadmates have their own Paragon/Renegade meters? #ME3"

"Yea, we wanted to show some of the RPG stuff, but screens aren't done. Squad renegade/paragon won't be there."



That explains it!  Thanks Vertigo!! 

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... :lol:

O hai Ash, didn't know you were a biotic too.  ;)

Great pic, Fire!  :D

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She looks caught in a stasis field

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Collider wrote...

Really? I can't find the flags/value for paragon or renegade Kaidan/Ashley. Just for Garrus.

Huh. You're right it's only Garrus.

I must be confused. 

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Oh, well, I would have thought a bit of paragon/renegade based romance would have been interesting but probably too insane to hammer in.

... with that being said, 2012 seems so far off ;_;


ETA: Gotta try to remember if there's any other gaming shows other than E3 where there's a chance of more ME3 information.

Modifié par Kia Purity, 09 juin 2011 - 05:35 .


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Hmmm.... jupp, I would quite like the idea of paragon/renegade relationships but it isn't that important to me. I'm sure that the romance-arcs will be well written. Just getting a brand new Shep through ME, just got of Eden Prime. I am so much looking forward to the Kaidan romance again. It was 2 Sheps ago so it's about time to get some Kaidan-time again =)