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Hey, Kaidan fans, could any of you please explain to me what has to be done for Kaidan to acknowledge the fact that I'm a biotic?  Much appreciated >.<


It's a bugged dialogue, but it should appear in the second conversation when you're talking about BaAt (Brain Camp). Since it's bugged though, it doesn't always appear and I've even heard of it popping up on soldiers.

To date, I've gotten it with my adept and both vanguards.

In over 60 playthroughs I can't remember ever getting that acknowledgement and I usually play as an adept or sentinel.  I didn't even know it existed, lol.

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Sialater wrote...

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Hey, Kaidan fans, could any of you please explain to me what has to be done for Kaidan to acknowledge the fact that I'm a biotic?  Much appreciated >.<


It's a bugged dialogue, but it should appear in the second conversation when you're talking about BaAt (Brain Camp). Since it's bugged though, it doesn't always appear and I've even heard of it popping up on soldiers.

To date, I've gotten it with my adept and both vanguards.


Argh, that's frustrating!  I'm playing a female vanguard and I get nothing from the BaAT convo or the Vyrnus one afterwards :/.   I could have sworn I've heard it in a playthrough before though... I vaguely remember him talking about his implant and how he "spikes higher than most L3's, except for you."  Something like that.  I can't for the life of me get him to bloody say it though :/

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I'm running a sentinel right now.... and I don't think I've ever gotten it the 8+ times I've beaten Mass Effect....maybe Shep has to be an Adept?

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Nope. Doesn't even have to be romanced. I've gotten it on Adept Avery. And Vanguard Meghan.

And now, I just got it on my singleShep Vanguard, Rachel. It was right after Feros which I do second.


That's why I said it was bugged.

Modifié par Sialater, 26 juin 2011 - 01:33 .


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Okay here is the clip of when he says it.

Apparently it only happens when you "don't romance him."  Okay, well I haven't romanced him, so either he's going to say the above later in the game, or something went wrong somewhere.  Incidentally, I've been keeping a log of my conversations (trying to make a canon walkthrough), so I looked over the conversations I've had with the guy:

POST BEACON

Not great – Don't blame yourself – Thanks

AFTER BECON DEBRIEFING


How are you holding up? – You helped – Jenkins will be missed –  seems like you've been around – I don't have one [shep's Earthborn] – We want to brief the council

KAIDEN/ASH (CITADEL SCENIC)

He's right, Chief – We have to work to measure up – What's not to like? – Forget it [at Kaidan fumbling over his words]

POST PLOT WORLD 1

For what? – Don't worry about it – An old fashioned view [no matter what option I pick here she says the same exact thing, "well, well, you're a romantic..."] – That's all right –  You doubt it was accidental? – Intentional exposures?Jump ZeroFriends – Time to talk then – Did you love her? – Sounds rough, go on – I want to know my crew [honest answer] – To some degree [this is the friendliest, non-romantic option, but no matter what, Kaidan's all, "wooo, I'll have to *puts sunglasses on* process that ma'am..."]

POST PLOT WORLD 2

I'm listening – Are you concerned? – My interests? – It's not like that – I'm here aren't I? – Bad experience? – Experts? – Why not Asari? – Why couldn't we do it alone? – You had a bad teacher? – Why tell me? – You're assuming a lot – You're out of line

For some reason, the post plot world 1 convo unavoidably causes Kaidan to think Shep is flirting with her; she's just being friendly.  Did the seed get planted in his head because I said "Don't blame yourself" in the first convo with him?

Modifié par AwesomeName, 26 juin 2011 - 02:19 .


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The non-romance thing isn't true. I've romanced him with EVERY Shepard except Rachel. And I got it on my Adept Avery and on Meghan the Vanguard.

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Were you romancing him/giving him the wrong idea before he said it though?

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first conversation is always like that - I've been wondering if that neutral line was bugged. if you don't pick an option to say that you were bored - he assumes that you are interested regardless of which conversation ender you chose. I've actually deliberately tried blaming him for the beacon, got the frown and everything and he still said that he needed to process it, and fumbled with words on the Citadel, which basically suggests that he likes Shepard from the very beginning and rather then starting a romance with him, you either need to ignore him, or shot him down.

I've never actually gotten that biotic reference either, romanced or non romanced (my adept playthrough was actually non romance where I didn't go for the scene on the citadel and shot him down with "I was waiting fro a good part" response)

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AwesomeName wrote...

Were you romancing him/giving him the wrong idea before he said it though?


Nope.  Rachel shut him down romance-wise in the first convo.  It's breaking my heart to hear "Commander" in that voice for the first time EVER.

It is a BUGGED line.

Modifié par Sialater, 26 juin 2011 - 03:05 .


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Hmm, I guess it is then!

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The Kaidan biotic spike conversation only occurred with Sheploo in my playthroughs.  Must be luck of the draw.

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Just to add some weirdness to this. I got this convosation on both a Solider (360) as well as an infiltrator (PC).

Both Male, dunno if that makes a difference.

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Never got it. Does seem like it is bugged which is annoying *sad face*

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AwesomeName wrote...

Sialater wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

Hey, Kaidan fans, could any of you please explain to me what has to be done for Kaidan to acknowledge the fact that I'm a biotic?  Much appreciated >.<


It's a bugged dialogue, but it should appear in the second conversation when you're talking about BaAt (Brain Camp). Since it's bugged though, it doesn't always appear and I've even heard of it popping up on soldiers.

To date, I've gotten it with my adept and both vanguards.


Argh, that's frustrating!  I'm playing a female vanguard and I get nothing from the BaAT convo or the Vyrnus one afterwards :/.   I could have sworn I've heard it in a playthrough before though... I vaguely remember him talking about his implant and how he "spikes higher than most L3's, except for you."  Something like that.  I can't for the life of me get him to bloody say it though :/


I feel like I got this when I tried playing through as a male biotic... I thought it was somewhere right after eden prime. I remember talking to Chakwas about his headaches first... and then talking to him and he mentions his family?? (Dad was proud eventually...)  I think it was that conversation. I don't think I've gotten it as a female (but my femShep is almost always a soldier.)

Modifié par PopDisaster, 27 juin 2011 - 04:54 .


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Wow.  I'm glad I never got that bugged line as a femShep.  His romance is the best part of the game!

As a shameless plug, I've updated my Shepard Chronicles with another journal entry.  All of the story if Spoiler-free.  It only takes place in ME2 and only from Shepard's POV.

http://www.fanfictio...pard_Chronicles

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Jade5233 wrote...

Wow.  I'm glad I never got that bugged line as a femShep.  His romance is the best part of the game!

As a shameless plug, I've updated my Shepard Chronicles with another journal entry.  All of the story if Spoiler-free.  It only takes place in ME2 and only from Shepard's POV.

http://www.fanfictio...pard_Chronicles


Like I said, I've gotten it with almost every other Shepard (That includes the ones in the digital RROD graveyard as well as Meghan and Avery).  Only Rachel has not romanced him. And she still got it.

It is not dependant upon romance status and it is bugged.

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My new Kaidan Alenko fanfic.

Sadly I'm not a great writer and my idea is kinda tame but let me know what you think of it guys :lol:

About to play through Horizon! Kaidan :wub:

I really wished I got the biotic talk in ME1 oh well...

I am seriously not going to go back on the ME3 romance forum :(

Modifié par ZombieGeisha, 27 juin 2011 - 06:17 .


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That's all right. We'll still be here, ZG.

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Sialater wrote...

Like I said, I've gotten it with almost every other Shepard (That includes the ones in the digital RROD graveyard as well as Meghan and Avery).  Only Rachel has not romanced him. And she still got it.

It is not dependant upon romance status and it is bugged.


I've only ever been able to produce that snippet reliably as biotic-FemShep by shutting Kaidan's romance down right at the beginning of the first post-story-mission conversation (I think it's the "Personal crap? Not interested." option.) and then going back after another story mission. This seems to shift you on to the friendship track and you get the same conversations that a biotic-MaleShep gets.

However, I confess that I only ever experimented in order to record that clip for YouTube (Aki is a sad panda if I don't romance Kaidan, even in the name of dialogue exploration!) and so it's entirely possible that I missed a trick/bug that will allow you to get it as a romancing FemShep too.

I believe that someone somewhere (LiveJournal?) had started a dialogue tree map for all the Kaidan conversation options and what outcomes you got for each one, which was linked in earlier incarnations of this thread. Did anyone bookmark it? Even Google is failing me in my efforts to find it again... Posted Image

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Lianna sFfalenn wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Like I said, I've gotten it with almost every other Shepard (That includes the ones in the digital RROD graveyard as well as Meghan and Avery).  Only Rachel has not romanced him. And she still got it.

It is not dependant upon romance status and it is bugged.


I've only ever been able to produce that snippet reliably as biotic-FemShep by shutting Kaidan's romance down right at the beginning of the first post-story-mission conversation (I think it's the "Personal crap? Not interested." option.) and then going back after another story mission. This seems to shift you on to the friendship track and you get the same conversations that a biotic-MaleShep gets.

However, I confess that I only ever experimented in order to record that clip for YouTube (Aki is a sad panda if I don't romance Kaidan, even in the name of dialogue exploration!) and so it's entirely possible that I missed a trick/bug that will allow you to get it as a romancing FemShep too.

I believe that someone somewhere (LiveJournal?) had started a dialogue tree map for all the Kaidan conversation options and what outcomes you got for each one, which was linked in earlier incarnations of this thread. Did anyone bookmark it? Even Google is failing me in my efforts to find it again... Posted Image


Well, like I said.  Almost every other Shepard has gotten it -- I know Avery got it.  I'm not entirely 100% sure on Meghan the vanguard, but I'm sure about Avery.  Rachel's the ONLY one I've never romanced him with. And she still got it.

It's a badly bugged line, like Ashley's aliens versus animals line on the Presidium.

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Lianna sFfalenn wrote...

I believe that someone somewhere (LiveJournal?) had started a dialogue tree map for all the Kaidan conversation options and what outcomes you got for each one, which was linked in earlier incarnations of this thread. Did anyone bookmark it? Even Google is failing me in my efforts to find it again... Posted Image


Here's the Kaidan dialogue map someone made:  Part one:  http://masseffect.li...com/858507.html and Part two:  http://masseffect.li...com/858781.html

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TeenZombie wrote...

Lianna sFfalenn wrote...

I believe that someone somewhere (LiveJournal?) had started a dialogue tree map for all the Kaidan conversation options and what outcomes you got for each one, which was linked in earlier incarnations of this thread. Did anyone bookmark it? Even Google is failing me in my efforts to find it again... Posted Image


Here's the Kaidan dialogue map someone made:  Part one:  http://masseffect.li...com/858507.html and Part two:  http://masseffect.li...com/858781.html


Wow.. Just CTRL-F'd "spike" "higher" "except [you]" and nada :/

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Before I head off for vacation I wanted to make sure to post up a new chapter of each of my Shenko stories, R&R and The Shepard Chronicles.  Both are spoiler-free and can be found here:

http://www.fanfiction.net/~jade5233

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TeenZombie wrote...

Here's the Kaidan dialogue map someone made:  Part one:  http://masseffect.li...com/858507.html and Part two:  http://masseffect.li...com/858781.html


Ah ha, thank you very much!

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A long time lurker but i've always had Kaidan as the canon romance for me. He's just the perfect guy for my Shepard. He's the missing half for her and i totally love his personality. I love his backstory and why he's the person he is.

And my Shep keep falling for him..
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