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[*Kioux*]

Well said, Jho.
I agree on most parts. Certainly the lack of Kaidan in ME2 got to me on a level and I have a hate-love thing going with Horizon and the simple fact that answering messages and mails is not an option - but once ME2 is accept as - well, ME2 and not ME1 part 2, it becomes enjoyable.
Sure - some of the nice options from ME1 are missing, and it feels more linear - oh and I sometimes wonder how my crew mates survive the missions in their outfits - but it really isn't so bad.
I actually like the combat, I like some of the new weapons, I like the fact that my Shepard can run around in bright green armor with purple stripes if she so chooses to and I certainly love the spacehamster, my undying and well fed fish, Mordins musical solos, the discussions with Samara, Joker and Edi's developing friendship, the hope that Mordin might find a way to help Thane and thus help Kolyat keeping his father but more than all, I like the fact that I can show TIM the finger at the end, keeping his ship for myself and some of his crew as well.
The fact that we didn't try to escape Cerberus earlier, that I didn't fire my Cain at TIM directly after Horizon, that I didn't kick Anderson in the butt for not trusting me - well, they are my Frodo scenes from the LotR movies - I skip them, at least in my head.
Not everything is perfect - not everyone will like the story from head to toe but I have hopes for ME3. I'm not willing to believe that BioWare will run us over with their big EA-we-need-more-customers-truck, I am not willing to believe that they don't know we exist and that we are some of the most loyal customers of their company.
Sure, us being the only ones without a DLC is annoying but to be honest - I'll glady not wait for a DLC if the final result of ME3 makes up for it. I won't give up - there's always hope.

Hmm - top of the page. Kaidan is a fighter - he won't give up either!

Modifié par Kioux, 21 janvier 2011 - 02:15 .

[FireEye]

Kioux wrote...

Hmm - top of the page. Kaidan is a fighter - he won't give up either!

[Battle Kaidan]

Or he'll die fighting? 

[Renessa]

Selenora wrote...

cgrimm54 wrote...

I sincerely hope they give us Kaidan/Ash DLC.  Because if they don't I may hang up my N7 armor and go play champion of Kirkwall for a while.  

My god, I think I know what's going on!  Subtle propaganda to get everyone to play Dragon Age II!  

I am planning to play DA2  anyway, no matter what. I've played all bio games so far. I dont know if i will play ME3 tho. You see, i know ME universe is not about the story of shep and Kaidan but i tend to take it as such, especially after the ME2 events. I swear to God if we didnt have the story of them two written the way it is in ME2 i would propably not think of it as a Shep-Kaidan story. But now they somehow forced me to think of it as that. I mean, if we had Kai with us in ME2 i would think: ok, i have the love of my life with me, now lets kick some reapers and save the universe. But now i think of it as: I must fight for my love, universe be damned. and if not a reunion and a happy ending in ME3 i dont think i'll buy it. The universe can survive without my shepard. My shepards wont bother.......they will die at the end of SM and if that means i will have to play ME2 again in order to kill them, i will.
The universe will be saved no matter what and i can always watch vids on how, if im curious enough.

Im not buying any ME3 til i read all spoilers of what they did to Kaidan.

It's strange, but this is exactly how i feel. I was nowhere near as obsessed with Kaidan after ME 1 as I am now. After ME1 my Shep felt quite happy. She had saved the world and gotten her man. Things were settled.

ME 2 throws all of this overboard. Now, even that could have been done in an interesting, captivating way, but somehow they did not pull it of. I was not left all exited about how the story is going to develop, but rather frustrated and feeling resentful. I put this down to bad writing (Horizon). Added to that, they really seem to go out of their way to show how little they think of either Kaidan or Ashley. (Phoenix armour, using almost the same dialogue for both of them, that awful comic, spelling Kaidan's name wrong etc.)

Don't get me wrong. I actually liked ME2 a lot. I did not think much of the basic story line, but I loved almost all of the new characters and their missions. I thought LotSB was a highlight of the game.

However, I am seriously wondering about pre-ordering ME3, especially since I have watched the PS3 comic. It really depends on whether all these characters, my Shepards learned to care about, will play an important role (Squadmates!) in ME3. If they are all discarded (again), if Shepard has to assemble yet another crew, or if she does not get her happy ending with Kaidan, I might just save my money and rather read brilliant fanfiction such as JaerWolfe's...

[*Kioux*]

FireEye wrote...

Kioux wrote...
Hmm - top of the page. Kaidan is a fighter - he won't give up either!

Or he'll die fighting? 

Nuh - if he dies, my Shepard dies along with him - after they saved the world. Preferrably - they'll die 100 years later of old age.
While BW can be a bunch of sadistic b...beople, I believe they will give us a good - a grande finale! If we don't hope for it, who else will?

[Jhourney]

Kioux wrote...

FireEye wrote...

Kioux wrote...
Hmm - top of the page. Kaidan is a fighter - he won't give up either!

Or he'll die fighting? 

Nuh - if he dies, my Shepard dies along with him - after they saved the world. Preferrably - they'll die 100 years later of old age.
While BW can be a bunch of sadistic b...beople, I believe they will give us a good - a grande finale! If we don't hope for it, who else will?

Well I'm still hoping for that Indiana Jones type of ending they mentioned, heck Marion wasn't even in part 2 and 3...yet got her man in the end

Really though, we got the doomy ending with DA...so that bodes well for ME...besides, Shepard already died in ME2...they have to be original for ME3

[Chignon]

FireEye wrote...

/snip

My expectations at this point is that Kaidan or Ashley will face off with Shepard and either take a bullet for her or take a bullet from her.  But who knows?  Maybe they'll be squadmates from the beginning and live long enough to abscond into the sunset with everybody else and it will be all rainbows and sunshine. 

It's the silence from BioWare, the continued neglect of Ash and Kaidan and the lack of good news in the last year that makes me think the first scenario is more likely. I really would like rainbows and sunshine, though.

[sesheta255]

MizzNaaa wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

That chocolate picture is pure evil. =D

It is...Blame Sesh, she had Jho do it!

I always get the blame, lol.  But its Jho's fault, she could have said NO, when I asked her to Kaidanise the original pic, lmao


and as for ME2, I knew Kaidan only had a cameo so that didn't worry me all that much.  While I don't think it's a terrible game, I am disappointed in it in terms of story and dialogue, after ME1 (and DAO).  To me if felt like a bunch of dlc cobbled together.  I think too much emphasis was put on the new combat system and not enough on story and dialogue.

Modifié par sesheta255, 21 janvier 2011 - 03:21 .

[Selenora]

Kioux wrote...

FireEye wrote...

Kioux wrote...
Hmm - top of the page. Kaidan is a fighter - he won't give up either!

Or he'll die fighting? 

Nuh - if he dies, my Shepard dies along with him -

Mine too.
All of them.

[*Kioux*]

Jhosephine wrote...

Well I'm still hoping for that Indiana Jones type of ending they mentioned, heck Marion wasn't even in part 2 and 3...yet got her man in the end

Really though, we got the doomy ending with DA...so that bodes well for ME...besides, Shepard already died in ME2...they have to be original for ME3

Heh - unusual comparison but a lovely one.
The way I see it, it'll be a bit like ME2 - with chances to win or loose all. Play right and you'll get happy-happy chocolate, flowers, and fluffy-handcuffs ending or if you don't care, you'll get the 'end of the world' gloomy, you'll feel like crap for weeks- ending - that would be the ending I'd never see.

Let's just assume that being left out in the rain doesn't always mean a bad thing...
Sorry - but Totoro always cheers me up.

[Jhourney]

sesheta255 wrote...

I always get the blame, lol.  But its Jho's fault, she could have said NO, when I asked her to Kaidanise the original pic, lmao

Oh suuurrreeee. 

Sesh : "Jho we want a Kaidan pic where he's doing something smexy with chocolate, wanna do that?"

Jho : "No."

....


Yeah right lol 

Modifié par Jhosephine, 21 janvier 2011 - 03:33 .

[sesheta255]

Jhosephine wrote...

sesheta255 wrote...

I always get the blame, lol.  But its Jho's fault, she could have said NO, when I asked her to Kaidanise the original pic, lmao

Oh suuurrreeee. 

Sesh : "Jho we want a Kaidan pic where he's doing something smexy with chocolate, wanna do that?"

Jho : "No."

....

Yeah right lol 

Well it could happen in some weird alternate universe, lmao

[Jhourney]

sesheta255 wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

sesheta255 wrote...

I always get the blame, lol.  But its Jho's fault, she could have said NO, when I asked her to Kaidanise the original pic, lmao

Oh suuurrreeee. 

Sesh : "Jho we want a Kaidan pic where he's doing something smexy with chocolate, wanna do that?"

Jho : "No."

....

Yeah right lol 

Well it could happen in some weird alternate universe, lmao

LOL one where my Shepard is romancing Conrad Verner instead of Kaidan and I'll be spamming this thread with shirtless Conrad pics

[mllrthyme]

@ Jho - that's a bad, bad mental image. I need brain bleach.



@ Sesh - it's always your fault, especially when Phoenix isn't around.



And pardon my sugar high, but I just realized the plot of ME2: Get a bunch of people together and commit genocide. Hunh, I guess that leaves plenty of room to show off the new combat system.

[sesheta255]

It must be pick on Sesh week, lmao



@Thyme - well it's Phoenix's fault to begin with. she was the one who showed me the choco hand man pic to begin with, lmao.



@Jho - you're an evil, evil woman. You're going to give me nightmares now

[Sialater]

Uh... Shep's not committing genocide. The Reapers already did that.



The Collectors don't even have the individuality of the Borg. They're a zombiefied corpse that needs to be put out of its misery. There's no genocide, its euthanasia.



Still would have preferred Kaidan be there for it, though.

[mllrthyme]

I can see your point, the Reapers wiped out their race and modified the remainder. Wouldn't that make the Collectors a unique race all their own though, like the Borg except more zombified? Of course, this could be my poor attempt to add substance to a 2 dimensional antagonist.



*shrugs* But yes, it would've been nice to have Kaidan along. I still hold out hope that his absence will be made up for in the upcoming products. *crosses fingers*

[Sialater]

Nah, there's barely anything left of the original species according to Mordin. They can't exist independently. That's like saying the husks are a new species.



I, too, am holding out hope he'll be done justice in ME3. I have no hope for a DLC, though.

[MizzNaaa]

Jhosephine wrote...

Well, I lurk on the BSN for a reason, mainly because I adore BW's games. My adoration has gone down a few levels though, ever since DA+DLCs and ME2+DLCs. I'm here because I believe Mass Effect could be a great trilogy, with ME2 being the lesser episode of it all...like with most movies as well.
I still believe in a happy conclusion for Kaidan and Shepard, happy in my eyes anyway and will continue to do so until ME3 is released and then either that hope is shattered, or I'm squeeing like a little schoolgirl.

I do get negative at times, because the wait is long and has been even longer so even the tiniest of things gets to me. The fact that I care enough to get angry or sad, says enough. However, the way my favourite character is treated in DLCs, the comic and even ME2, upsets me and makes me fearful at times about what else is going to happen.

Other times I just shrug and tell myself ME2 isn't about the VS, it's an introduction of new characters...they are setting it all up for the grand finale. Even if the way they are setting it up doesn't agree with me, that's the way it is.
That every step Bioware makes is to push characters in the right directions to prepare for ME3 and even though some characters get pushed harder while others seem to fall behind, I think they will all be on the same level in the end.

All in all, spending this much time on the BSN has taught me not to accept everything coming out of the Bioware studios in blind faith. It took me a long time to purchase Kasumi, Overlord and LotSB, for example, while completely dismissing all other DLCs up for sale. Mostly because ME2 doesn't sit well with me for more than one reason, so I couldn't be bothered.

Is it the lack of Kaidan? I don't know ...part of it is, but ME2 just isn't up to BW standards....the standards I set for them mind you. So in the end, I needed to tone down my expectations and remind myself why I love their games to begin with. ME2 isn't a bad game and once I shifted my expectations it became a whole lot more enjoyable. Still, nowhere near as enjoyable as ME1, which I keep replaying as much as I replayed Baldur's Gate 2.

This is me being positive, I'm sure you'll see a ranting negative me further down the road again as well...it's the way of things...especially with the lack of Kaidan and stuff like the comic...though I'm dismissing the darn thing was ever made

My sentiments exactly!<3

[mllrthyme]

Oh well, Sia.  We can commiserate with a Kaidan.


 I really love Jho's work!

[MizzNaaa]

Jhosephine wrote...

sesheta255 wrote...

I always get the blame, lol.  But its Jho's fault, she could have said NO, when I asked her to Kaidanise the original pic, lmao

Oh suuurrreeee. 

Sesh : "Jho we want a Kaidan pic where he's doing something smexy with chocolate, wanna do that?"

Jho : "No."

....


Yeah right lol 

Yeah right indeed

Still I love you for that picture Jho..

[MizzNaaa]

Sialater wrote...

I, too, am holding out hope he'll be done justice in ME3. I have no hope for a DLC, though.

I am optimistic...BW might have disappointed us but they can't ignore us forever. And I am keeping my fingers crossed for an epic reunion. The reunion with Liara was good...very good actually, and I know they'll give us something as good.

*gives everyone cookies*

[MizzNaaa]

mllrthyme wrote...

Oh well, Sia.  We can commiserate with a Kaidan.


 I really love Jho's work!

Me too! <3

[catgirl789]

MizzNaaa wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I, too, am holding out hope he'll be done justice in ME3. I have no hope for a DLC, though.

I am optimistic...BW might have disappointed us but they can't ignore us forever. And I am keeping my fingers crossed for an epic reunion. The reunion with Liara was good...very good actually, and I know they'll give us something as good.

*gives everyone cookies*

Yum cookies! Thanks. *eats*

Anyways, I'm going to stand on the optimistic side of the line and say that come the end of November, we'll all be laughing at ourselves between replays of the epic Shenko time in ME3. Heck maybe we'll even get something before that with DLC! *sigh* A girl can dream right?

Modifié par catgirl789, 21 janvier 2011 - 05:32 .

[MizzNaaa]

@catgirl789, Yes a girl can dream...heck a girl should dream!

[Chignon]

I wanted to share with you what LesEnfantsTerribles in the FemShep thread made for me:



I thought it was incredibly sweet and very thoughtful of him as a Liara fan and fellow Ash and Kaidan supporter.