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Aslanasadi wrote...

My canon and favorite Shepard is more renegade,too, because of all the frustration and missing her Kaidan...*pouts*...and when she doesn't get her Kaidan back...she might strike and let the Reapers take over the world...oh. well, maybe not...since she wouldn't want Kaidan and innocents to get hurt...

I tried to play one playthrough without romancing Kaidan...I failed, I just couldn't resist him...ooops, I mean my Shepard failed...lol...not me....


We had the question popping up a while ago, about giving the verse the finger if the choice came up between saving Kaidan or saving humanity or something...most of us picked Kaidan. Twould be funny as hell when statistics show people are riding of into the blood stained sunset with their lover instead of saving Earth. "We got we wanted, screw the rest, we waited too long for this."

So again, reinstate Kaidan as a squadmate in ME3 so we can properly fight the darn Reapers :P

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I would choose Kaidan even if it was between him and the rest of the universe...but im not biased.....

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Oh, that's a nice picture and that's what I want to see in ME3...Do you hear me Bioware?...I want this team and Kaidan back....and maybe one or the other from the new team, too....



LOL...yeah, that would be absolutely funny...lol...when the statistic would tell us most of the people would rather riding in the blood stained with their lover than waisting time saving earth ...lol...



Tbh, I might wear a pair of pink glasses, but I still have high hopes that we will see Kaidan/Ash in ME3 and that it will be good...Okay, probably not as good like in the fanfic, but I hope it will be at least so good, that it will make us forget the long time we had to wait for this...(okay and a tiny little bit of me still hopes for a VS DLC)

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I hope DA:O satisfied the wish of BioWare in making "happy life with LI but committing something awful/one of you is dead" choices. Waiting since ME1 to get this in the end will be frustrating

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mineralica wrote...

I hope DA:O satisfied the wish of BioWare in making "happy life with LI but committing something awful/one of you is dead" choices. Waiting since ME1 to get this in the end will be frustrating


Agreed.

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mineralica wrote...

I hope DA:O satisfied the wish of BioWare in making "happy life with LI but committing something awful/one of you is dead" choices. Waiting since ME1 to get this in the end will be frustrating


I agree with all of my <3!!!!

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I agree with you too. My Shepard would choose Earth over Kaidan - but at this stage I feel we've been waiting so long that *I* wouldn't let her!



The ending of DA:O was very dramatic and emotional. It worked amazingly in story-terms. But as a player I was genuinely outraged - it was like Bioware had come into my home, thanked me for buying their game, and then punched me in the stomach.



There's something to be said for triumphant happy endings. Based on what ME1 and ME2 have given us so far, I'm actually quite optimistic. I mean, seriously, even the "dark second chapter" could have a successful heroic ending. Bioware wouldn't end the trilogy on a downer.

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mineralica wrote...

I hope DA:O satisfied the wish of BioWare in making "happy life with LI but committing something awful/one of you is dead" choices. Waiting since ME1 to get this in the end will be frustrating


Oh, i so much agree....

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Jhosephine wrote...

Aslanasadi wrote...

My canon and favorite Shepard is more renegade,too, because of all the frustration and missing her Kaidan...*pouts*...and when she doesn't get her Kaidan back...she might strike and let the Reapers take over the world...oh. well, maybe not...since she wouldn't want Kaidan and innocents to get hurt...

I tried to play one playthrough without romancing Kaidan...I failed, I just couldn't resist him...ooops, I mean my Shepard failed...lol...not me....


We had the question popping up a while ago, about giving the verse the finger if the choice came up between saving Kaidan or saving humanity or something...most of us picked Kaidan. Twould be funny as hell when statistics show people are riding of into the blood stained sunset with their lover instead of saving Earth. "We got we wanted, screw the rest, we waited too long for this."

So again, reinstate Kaidan as a squadmate in ME3 so we can properly fight the darn Reapers :P

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I would love to say that my Alexis Shepard would give the universe the finger in the end if that was the choice she was given. But, I don't think she could do it in the end.


Of course, if she had to sacrifice Kaidan to save the galaxy, she probably wouldn't do much to ensure that she made it through the final battle either.

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You know, it's not in my nature to think positively.  Bioware shafted both my warden and my Shepard so I fully expect to be shafted once again in ME3, if only for the fact that my Shepard didn't choose one of the shiny new "compelling" love interests available, lol.  I can see Kaidan being cannon fodder in ME3, going out in a blaze of glory to save Shepard, at which point the game disc will go flying across the room, lol

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Estelindis wrote...

The ending of DA:O was very dramatic and emotional. It worked amazingly in story-terms. But as a player I was genuinely outraged - it was like Bioware had come into my home, thanked me for buying their game, and then punched me in the stomach.


QFT.
I hope Bioware satisfied its sadistic pleasure in making us weep at the end of its games.

My Warden will sacrifice herself any day of the week. But still, I don't want my Shepard to have to do the same. Or have to chose between Kaidan and the Universe. 'Cause she'll chose the Universe. And then will become the local drunk. :unsure:

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sapphyreelf wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Aslanasadi wrote...

My canon and favorite Shepard is more renegade,too, because of all the frustration and missing her Kaidan...*pouts*...and when she doesn't get her Kaidan back...she might strike and let the Reapers take over the world...oh. well, maybe not...since she wouldn't want Kaidan and innocents to get hurt...

I tried to play one playthrough without romancing Kaidan...I failed, I just couldn't resist him...ooops, I mean my Shepard failed...lol...not me....


We had the question popping up a while ago, about giving the verse the finger if the choice came up between saving Kaidan or saving humanity or something...most of us picked Kaidan. Twould be funny as hell when statistics show people are riding of into the blood stained sunset with their lover instead of saving Earth. "We got we wanted, screw the rest, we waited too long for this."

So again, reinstate Kaidan as a squadmate in ME3 so we can properly fight the darn Reapers :P

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I would love to say that my Alexis Shepard would give the universe the finger in the end if that was the choice she was given. But, I don't think she could do it in the end.


Of course, if she had to sacrifice Kaidan to save the galaxy, she probably wouldn't do much to ensure that she made it through the final battle either.


Avery already doesn't think she's going to survive anyway.  She'd prefer he lived, though.

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If it comes down to it, I'd sacrifice Shepard before I sacrificed Kaidan. I couldn't bring myself to sacrifice Alistair, I sacrificed my warden instead, and I couldn't bring myself to sacrifice Kaidan if I had the choice, lol. I'd definitely choose to save Kaidan over the universe, lol.

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But, would you really be saving Kaidan in that instance, Sesh? If you chose him over the galaxy, don't the Reapers win?

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Elysis wrote...

My Warden will sacrifice herself any day of the week.

So will mine - if she's blooming-well allowed!  My first playthrough ended with Warden Commander rather than Ultimate Sacrifice, but not through any wish of mine or my character's.  (Alistair had been in my party for the entire game.  Why would I leave him at the gates instead of taking him to fight the archdemon with me? Seems fairly irresponsible as another Warden could be the difference between victory and defeat.)

Now, in dramatic terms, pulling this kind of trick on the player is very effective.  I'm not saying I don't want plot twists and surprises.  But I don't want to be bitten in the ass for thinking things through.  (David Gaider has said that anyone would thought it through should have realised that Alistair wouldn't let the woman he loves sacrifice herself, but my character was focused on how best to defeat the archdemon, and it seemed stupid to leave Alistair behind.  So I thought things through differently than Mr. Gaider did, but I felt my conclusions were valid.)

Elysis wrote...

I don't want my Shepard to have to do the same. Or have to chose between Kaidan and the Universe. 'Cause she'll chose the Universe. And then will become the local drunk. :unsure:

This is just it.  Shepard will do what she has to do - and I wish there were more really tough paragon choices, honestly, so that doing the right thing was a bit harder.  But that doesn't mean that playing the game should be traumatic.

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If it comes down to it, I'd sacrifice Shepard before I sacrificed Kaidan.

Same here (again, assuming that the game allows it).  But I feel the situation's a bit different to Dragon Age.  Kaidan already lost Shepard once.  Seeing her die again would just be awful.  I would seriously feel worse for Kaidan in that situation than I would for Shepard.  I mean, Alistair is very far from trauma-free, but when I think of Kaidan's struggle to get over the loss of Shepard, getting her back, working through his complicated emotions, and maybe eventually opening up again - only to lose her once more - I just cannot put words to how painful that would be.  Awful!

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If you chose him over the galaxy, don't the Reapers win?


No, because right after the moment of picking Kaidan, I would take out the disc, smash it and pretend the trilogy is at an end or dismiss there's a trilogy to begin with.

Really though, I hated how there wasn't an option to both wield the bloody sword in DA, so both the Warden and Alistair sacrifice themselves in a last moment of glory. Grab the sword together, look at eachother and plunge the darn thing down..

So really if I can't save both Kaidan and the verse and  have to make a choice? I'll end ME3 all together and smash the disc....the end.

I'm done with doom and gloom ;)

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Jhosephine wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

If you chose him over the galaxy, don't the Reapers win?


No, because right after the moment of picking Kaidan, I would take out the disc, smash it and pretend the trilogy is at an end or dismiss there's a trilogy to begin with.

Really though, I hated how there wasn't an option to both wield the bloody sword in DA, so both the Warden and Alistair sacrifice themselves in a last moment of glory. Grab the sword together, look at eachother and plunge the darn thing down..

So really if I can't save both Kaidan and the verse and  have to make a choice? I'll end ME3 all together and smash the disc....the end.

I'm done with doom and gloom ;)


<3 you Jho.

I like your ending there. ME3? What ME3?

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Jhosephine wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

If you chose him over the galaxy, don't the Reapers win?


No, because right after the moment of picking Kaidan, I would take out the disc, smash it and pretend the trilogy is at an end or dismiss there's a trilogy to begin with.

Really though, I hated how there wasn't an option to both wield the bloody sword in DA, so both the Warden and Alistair sacrifice themselves in a last moment of glory. Grab the sword together, look at eachother and plunge the darn thing down..

So really if I can't save both Kaidan and the verse and  have to make a choice? I'll end ME3 all together and smash the disc....the end.

I'm done with doom and gloom ;)

what Jho said, lol.  After the stupid ending I got in Awakenings the disc went flying across the room, so ME3 won't be safe either, lol.  I refuse to have to kill off Kaidan, I would sacrifice everyone else in the damn galaxy before I did that, lol.

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sapphyreelf wrote...

If you chose him over the galaxy, don't the Reapers win?


Indeed, and we can't have that.  But we can't have Shep without her Kaidan either, so we must resort to the power to bend reality.  Or simply bend the ME3 disk.  :D

Jhosephine wrote...

No, because right after the moment of picking Kaidan, I would take out the disc, smash it and pretend the trilogy is at an end or dismiss there's a trilogy to begin with.


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:lol::lol::lol::lol:

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Okay what's a cooler way of saying "squadmate in ME3" ? As if it's Kaidan's official status in ME3? Not sure how to word what I'm looking for...I need a one liner.

Commander Kaidan Alenko....reinstated blabla

Something like that, I'm not good with words and you guys are so if you could help me out here :) Whatever works really. I have this cool idea for a new piece, but need a cool one liner to go with it lol

HELP! Pwetty pwease? :innocent:


Orrrr....something like I've asked before...the "we remember.." could work too. Oh, I dunno....WANTED : Kaidan related one liner for ME3 ;)

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Most of you guys have seen my Relinquish comic on DA. If Kaidan has to die than Shepard has to die with him. But I think it would be kind of redundant to almost kill Kaidan in ME1 then do it again in ME3.
I won't doubt there will be a 'everyone dies to save the galaxy' ending to ME3 but I hope there is a good ending to. Bioware has hinted that ME3 will be darker but also funnier.

@Jho
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sapphyreelf wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

If you chose him over the galaxy, don't the Reapers win?


No, because right after the moment of picking Kaidan, I would take out the disc, smash it and pretend the trilogy is at an end or dismiss there's a trilogy to begin with.

Really though, I hated how there wasn't an option to both wield the bloody sword in DA, so both the Warden and Alistair sacrifice themselves in a last moment of glory. Grab the sword together, look at eachother and plunge the darn thing down..

So really if I can't save both Kaidan and the verse and  have to make a choice? I'll end ME3 all together and smash the disc....the end.

I'm done with doom and gloom ;)


<3 you Jho.

I like your ending there. ME3? What ME3?

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Jhosephine wrote...

Okay what's a cooler way of saying "squadmate in ME3" ? As if it's Kaidan's official status in ME3? Not sure how to word what I'm looking for...I need a one liner.

Commander Kaidan Alenko....reinstated blabla

Something like that, I'm not good with words and you guys are so if you could help me out here :) Whatever works really. I have this cool idea for a new piece, but need a cool one liner to go with it lol

HELP! Pwetty pwease? :innocent:


Orrrr....something like I've asked before...the "we remember.." could work too. Oh, I dunno....WANTED : Kaidan related one liner for ME3 ;)


What, exactly are you looking for?  

Staff Commander Kaidan Alenko:  Assignment Normandy SR-2 Liaison

Staff Commander Kaidan Alenko:  Status:  classified

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I'm not too sure, myself. Maybe something referring to Kaidan showing up on the SR2's elevator menu?