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[Harid]

Thetribeman wrote...

So I have a very simple question that any who disagrees with these bonuses can answer in plain terms. What should Bioware have done?

Release the game like they did with DA:O, all dlc for people who buy the game brand new, but unlike DA:O, all store dlc should have been buyable at one store.

[DirtyVagrant]

It's an unfortunate tactic Bioware has adopted, I'm sure they'll do the same thing with ME3. Buy the game when we tell you to otherwise don't get all the available content.

[AuraofMana]

www.destructoid.com/bioware-s-casey-hudson-rationalizes-day-one-dlc-168047.phtml
Read mother****er, understand why this is done instead of ****ing about it when you don't know ****.

[Morroian]

Sejborg wrote...

I get what you are saying. But I think that your deal 1, is a worse deal than deal 2. All the people who are not super nerds like people who are haing out here, or are liking Dragon Age on Facebook, but still like Dragon Age, and will buy at day one is getting cheated for 7 dollars. They are simply not aware of this deal. They will have to give 7 dollars extra for the full experience than the person, 

Again they get the full experience without this deal which is extra, nothing has been cut from the game.

[Snoteye]

slimgrin wrote...

And do I really need to bring up how much better GoG's deal for TW2 is? There's no comparison.

I haven't read farther than this, but I'm sure somebody else has already pointed out how absurdly unfair that comparison is, seeing as how GOG and CD Projekt RED STUDIO are subsidiaries of the same company (CD Projekt). The Witcher 2 is not even released yet and it's already a "good old game."

[Sejborg]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Sejborg wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Sejborg wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

I think some people need to decide what they're arguing. Is it that this specific offer from BioWare is bad? Or that DLC is bad? Or that day-1 DLC is bad?

I think that this specific DLC preorder bonus is bad. I was fine with The Stone Prisoner deal though. 

and like i said in a previous post, i think that may be a good possibility:


"the way i see it, there are two different conditions in this 

1- pre-order the signature edition, you get sebastian for free, if not his price tag is 7 dollars 

2- project ten dollar implements aprox. 10 dollars worth of dlc if you buy a new game 

if condition 1 isn't met, condition 2 might kick in if you buy the game new and sebastian may implemented in this condition. 

if both conditions aren't met (buy the game used) you'd have to buy sebastian if you wanted him. 

I get what you are saying. But I think that your deal 1, is a worse deal than deal 2. All the people who are not super nerds like people who are haing out here, or are liking Dragon Age on Facebook, but still like Dragon Age, and will buy at day one is getting cheated for 7 dollars. They are simply not aware of this deal. They will have to give 7 dollars extra for the full experience than the person, who just so happen to preorder the game before some random date. 

Why make this weird deal instead of The Stone Prisoner deal? I think they want to make money on all the fans who are not paying attention and preordering months before release. They are simply trying to see how much they can push the consumer. 

i think you're misreading, i didn't say 2 different deals, i said 2 different conditions for the same deal.
project 10 dollar will still happen for DA2 giving the possibility of the inclusion of sebastian's dlc in new regular edition games.

Do you agree that this preorder deal is different than The Stone Prisoner deal?

[Harid]

AuraofMana wrote...

www.destructoid.com/bioware-s-casey-hudson-rationalizes-day-one-dlc-168047.phtml
Read mother****er, understand why this is done instead of ****ing about it when you don't know ****.

This isn't day 1 dlc.  (Though I don't care for day one dlc either.)

Also, umad?

Modifié par Harid, 09 janvier 2011 - 12:16 .

[upsettingshorts]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Yet people here actively encourage this crap.

It's nothing new.  I totally - well, my parents - bought these:



Because it was extra, non-essential content.  If Bioware was offering the entire rogue class as DLC, then I'd agree with your point.  But it's just an extra companion and some items.  There are whole companions in DA:O and ME2 I never used and barely talked to.  They aren't critical.  Unless the character is integral to the plot in the way say, Mordin, was.  And if you didn't buy the DLC, you never developed the Collector countermeasure, and couldn't progress beyond Horizon.  Then, again, I'd agree with your point.  But failing that? 

They made an offer of a bonus to preorder.  Take it or leave it.  Complain if you want.  But - and I'm talking in general about the threads here and elsewhere - judging people who decided to take the risk, based on whatever logic theyv'e applied, is just irritating.  

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 09 janvier 2011 - 12:16 .

[nightcobra]

Harid wrote...

Thetribeman wrote...

So I have a very simple question that any who disagrees with these bonuses can answer in plain terms. What should Bioware have done?

Release the game like they did with DA:O, all dlc for people who buy the game brand new, but unlike DA:O, all store dlc should have been buyable at one store.

that's an EA thing called project 10 dollars which gives free dlc that amounts to closely 10 bucks when you buy the game new, and it is still in effect.

so there's a good probability that sebastian (7bucks) is going to be implemented this way as well. 

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 09 janvier 2011 - 12:16 .

[DarthCaine]

To get more money maybe?

[The Big Nothing]

How good would Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade have been if he didn't make his leap of faith? Huh? Huh?

Sean Connery would have died. So, there.

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 09 janvier 2011 - 12:17 .

[Morroian]

Sejborg wrote...

Do you agree that this preorder deal is different than The Stone Prisoner deal?

Of course it is the circumstances were different. Shale was part of the original game, which they had problem with which caused delays.

[AuraofMana]

Harid wrote...
This isn't day 1 dlc.  (Though I don't care for day one dlc either.)

Also, umad?

No, but the past several posts have been littered with complaints on this subject due to lack of knowledge.
And yes, I am mad because the amount of retarded comments in this thread is astounding and most of it is filled with bad reasoning and lack of intelligence.

[Harid]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Harid wrote...

Thetribeman wrote...

So I have a very simple question that any who disagrees with these bonuses can answer in plain terms. What should Bioware have done?

Release the game like they did with DA:O, all dlc for people who buy the game brand new, but unlike DA:O, all store dlc should have been buyable at one store.

that's an EA thing called project 10 dollars which gives free dlc that amounts to closely 10 bucks when you buy the game new, and it is still in effect.

so there's a good probability that sebastian (7bucks) is going to be implemented this way as well. 

This isn't day 1 dlc, I'll say again.

People didn't complain about The Stone Prisoner.  (At least as far as I know.)  I don't compare the two situations, nor am I arguing about that.

[nightcobra]

Sejborg wrote...

Do you agree that this preorder deal is different than The Stone Prisoner deal?

while project 10 dollar is still active until the end of this fiscal year (march 31st), i'd say no because i believe it will be the same deal.

[Thetribeman]

On another note. Consider the value of Buy a game new, get dlc: 60$ But it used and get nothing extra: for say 50$ (if youre lucky) THAT VALUE MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

[DirtyVagrant]

AuraofMana wrote...

www.destructoid.com/bioware-s-casey-hudson-rationalizes-day-one-dlc-168047.phtml
Read mother****er, understand why this is done instead of ****ing about it when you don't know ****.

This really isn't a viable argument here. Zaeed is available if you get a new copy of ME2. Sebastian is only free if I pre-order a Signature Edition, so because I don't buy the game when Bioware tells me to, I have to shell out 7 additional dollars to get content that should already be included?

[Meltemph]

Release the game like they did with DA:O, all dlc for people who buy the game brand new, but unlike DA:O, all store dlc should have been buyable at one store.

But they are not doing that, and you don't actually believe a company "owes" you do you? So either you are willing to make the deal or you are not. They are supposed to get the most they can for their work. If you think the cost(this includes the time table of pre-ordering) to much for everything that they are offering then you have the ability to not purchase the product.

[Harid]

DirtyVagrant wrote...

AuraofMana wrote...

www.destructoid.com/bioware-s-casey-hudson-rationalizes-day-one-dlc-168047.phtml
Read mother****er, understand why this is done instead of ****ing about it when you don't know ****.

This really isn't a viable argument here. Zaeed is available if you get a new copy of ME2. Sebastian is only free if I pre-order a Signature Edition, so because I don't buy the game when Bioware tells me to, I have to shell out 7 additional dollars to get content that should already be included?

Pretty much this.  I don't see why people are comparing the two.

[Dave of Canada]

KBomb wrote...

I see the word "force" and "exploited" being used a lot. I don't understand this. How exactly is Bioware forcing anyone into buying their product?

Didn't you hear? If you don't preorder before January 11th, Mike Laidlaw will go to your house and personally slap you in the face until you preorder the normal edition of the game and buy the DLC. He might also take your stuff depending on how long you resist.

[Dave of Canada]

Harid wrote...

People didn't complain about The Stone Prisoner.  (At least as far as I know.)

They did.

[Harid]

Meltemph wrote...

Release the game like they did with DA:O, all dlc for people who buy the game brand new, but unlike DA:O, all store dlc should have been buyable at one store.

But they are not doing that, and you don't actually believe a company "owes" you do you? So either you are willing to make the deal or you are not. They are supposed to get the most they can for their work. If you think the cost(this includes the time table of pre-ordering) to much for everything that they are offering then you have the ability to not purchase the product.

I was answering a question; "What should have Bioware done?" Not stating what they are doing.

Dave of Canada wrote...

Harid wrote...

People didn't complain about The Stone Prisoner.  (At least as far as I know.)

They did.

Even if they did, I and many others are not arguing from that position. . .so it has nothing to do with this.

Modifié par Harid, 09 janvier 2011 - 12:21 .

[nightcobra]

Harid wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Harid wrote...

Thetribeman wrote...

So I have a very simple question that any who disagrees with these bonuses can answer in plain terms. What should Bioware have done?

Release the game like they did with DA:O, all dlc for people who buy the game brand new, but unlike DA:O, all store dlc should have been buyable at one store.

that's an EA thing called project 10 dollars which gives free dlc that amounts to closely 10 bucks when you buy the game new, and it is still in effect.

so there's a good probability that sebastian (7bucks) is going to be implemented this way as well. 

This isn't day 1 dlc, I'll say again.

People didn't complain about The Stone Prisoner.  (At least as far as I know.)  I don't compare the two situations, nor am I arguing about that.

i disagree with that, day 1 dlc is any dlc that comes at launch as per the project 10 dollar amounting to closely 10 dollars.
if sebastian is included in this, it is EA's decision and he is known thereafter as day one dlc.

[Revan312]

Morroian wrote...
Wow a business wants to encourage people to buy it new where they get the revenue from the sale vs used where they get no revenue from the sale, astounding stuff.

Thank god this level of thinking hasn't entered all industries..

"Oh, you want to buy this used car?  Well for 300 more bucks we'll throw in the coffee holders and the radio.., 600 and you'll get the passenger seat! If it's new though that stuff is thrown in for "free""

Modifié par Revan312, 09 janvier 2011 - 12:23 .