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XX-Pyro wrote...

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Morrigan and Alistair "spots" - as leading female and male characters - are taken by the two surviving Hawke's siblings.

No they aren't, considering one of them dies at the beginning. lol=]


Your main character IS a Hawke sibling. He's bethany's/Carver's surviving brother/sister.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

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Anyone else think the deck is stacked against Isabela?  Taking the female lead after  Morrigan gives her some BIG shoes to fill.

If she doesn't measure up, will it hurt DA2?


Yep. People will romance her and think, but she isn't b*tchy, verbally abusive, she doesn't second guess everything I do, and she won't dump me in the end. How can I romance a woman like this?!

As thick as the sarcasm was in that post, I wasn't talking solely about the romance aspect. 

Morrigan is just a very well written and developed character overall (maybe the best in DAO), and the lead female NPC.  I'm wondering how the devs plan on living up to the bar they've set with her.  Apparently it's not meant to be done with Izzy.

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I never liked Morrigan. And her damn "plot armour" made me downright hate her.

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There is no lead besides Hawke, no matter how important a character is they are still lesser than the main character. Morrigan got special spotlight but she wasn't the "female lead", saying she's the female lead is assuming the Warden is male and romanced/befriended her AND brought her along on every quest.

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crimzontearz wrote...

the way you say it makes me think everyone wanted to wear a spiked collar that bore a tag reading "property of morrigan" on it....:D


I like Morrigan. I understand why people enjoyed romancing her.

However, Isabela looks fun and emotionally/mentally stable. I think those are very big pluses.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 08 janvier 2011 - 11:43 .


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Isabella is kind of a S***

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You could boot Morrigan out of ur team as soon as you got out of the woods, if ur short with her back at flemeths hut she even says she can be just a guide. Only person you are stuck with is Alistar, he is the only "lead" Other than the warden.

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XX-Pyro wrote...

No they aren't, considering one of them dies at the beginning. lol=]


You can kick Morrigan out the second you step foot into Lothering. The amount of time you can spend with them doesn't negate that.

(What Alexia said.)

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Maria Caliban wrote...
I like Morrigan. I understand why people enjoyed romancing her.
However, Isabela looks fun and emotionally/mentally stable. I think those are very big pluses.


I don't. Diff'rent tastes for diff'rent folks, I guess.
Then again, unless more is revealed, I keep my hopes on hitting the less likely to be targets: Aveline (for Mike Hawke) and Varric (for Lady Hawke). Then again, I was dissapointed Oghren and Sigrun weren't options.

Modifié par Xewaka, 08 janvier 2011 - 11:46 .


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I installed a free love mod so my female Cousland could romance Morrigan. :D If Isabela retains her Origins personality then she should be a lot of fun to have around.

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Taint Master wrote...

As thick as the sarcasm was in that post, I wasn't talking solely about the romance aspect. 

Morrigan is just a very well written and developed character overall (maybe the best in DAO), and the lead female NPC.  I'm wondering how the devs plan on living up to the bar they've set with her.  Apparently it's not meant to be done with Izzy.


I suspect that Isabela will be very well-written and developed. However, unlike Morigan, she's a completely optional companion. You don't even need to meet her.

You have to understand, this is a conversation I encounter prior to every BioWare game I've seen launched (NWN, JE, ME 1+2, and DA:O). People always ask if the writers can come up with character as good as X, Y, and Z, and they consistently manage to do so.

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Isabella is kind of a S***

Unlike Morrigan, Leliana, and Zevran, who lived lives of chaste and moderate virtue.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 08 janvier 2011 - 11:48 .


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Gavinthelocust wrote...

There is no lead besides Hawke, no matter how important a character is they are still lesser than the main character. Morrigan got special spotlight but she wasn't the "female lead", saying she's the female lead is assuming the Warden is male and romanced/befriended her AND brought her along on every quest.

She was the female lead as far as the companions were concerned.  None of the others are as intertwined with the main story as much as her, romance or not.

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My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Isabella is kind of a S***


Yes, because Leliana and Morrigan are the examples of virtue and chastity<_<

Modifié par hhh89, 08 janvier 2011 - 11:51 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

You have to understand, this is a conversation I encounter prior to every BioWare game I've seen launched (NWN, JE, ME 1+2, and DA:O). People always ask if the writers can come up with character as good as X, Y, and Z, and they consistently manage to do so. 

That's true.  They do have a pretty good track record.  I'm kind of excited to see them work their magic again :wizard:

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My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Isabella is kind of a S***


I thought she was just more forward then the others.

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hhh89 wrote...


My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Isabella is kind of a S***


Yes, becuse Leliana and Morrigna are the examples of virtue adn chastity<_<

because the only 2 levels of sexuality are S*** and chastity, there's no middle ground.

/sarcasm

Modifié par My Avatar is a Lizard, 08 janvier 2011 - 11:52 .


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Taint Master wrote...

Gavinthelocust wrote...

There is no lead besides Hawke, no matter how important a character is they are still lesser than the main character. Morrigan got special spotlight but she wasn't the "female lead", saying she's the female lead is assuming the Warden is male and romanced/befriended her AND brought her along on every quest.

She was the female lead as far as the companions were concerned.  None of the others are as intertwined with the main story as much as her, romance or not.


Agreed. Morrigan is part of DA:O's story. More importantly, she's part of the larger Dragon Age story. I wouldn't be surprised if she and Flemeth turned out to be more 'leads' than the Warden when it comes to the meta-story.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 08 janvier 2011 - 11:54 .


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My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

hhh89 wrote...


My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Isabella is kind of a S***


Yes, becuse Leliana and Morrigna are the examples of virtue adn chastity<_<

because the only 2 levels of sexuality are S*** and chastity, there's no middle ground.


Leliana used sex for his own purpose in Orlais (stealing information, spyng and killing)....Isabela wants to have fun with sex, true, but I know a lot of male and female persons who do the same. Dont' think they are S****.

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Modifié par hhh89, 08 janvier 2011 - 11:57 .


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hhh89 wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

hhh89 wrote...


My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Isabella is kind of a S***


Yes, becuse Leliana and Morrigna are the examples of virtue adn chastity<_<

because the only 2 levels of sexuality are S*** and chastity, there's no middle ground.


Leliana used sex for his own purpose in Orlais (stealing information, spyng and killing)....Isabela wants to have fun with sex, true, but I know a lot of male persons who do the same. Dont' think they are S****.

K..........
I don't get why brining this up

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The female lead will probably be Aveline or some other companion we haven't heard of yet.

And what of the male lead? We haven't seen a human male yet, except Seb who is DLC, and a dwarf/elf as lead would be kind of a novelty.

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Maria Caliban wrote...




crimzontearz wrote...




the way you say it makes me think everyone wanted to wear a spiked collar that bore a tag reading "property of morrigan" on it....





I like Morrigan. I understand why people enjoyed romancing her.




However, Isabela looks fun and emotionally/mentally stable. I think those are very big pluses.




hehe...that's not the reason why I'll romance Isabela

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Well, since Varric is the narrator I would take it that he is the male lead.

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I dont see the competiton. This is a different story, different characters. AS long as she s well developed (no pun intended) as a character, meaning esentially strong willed and with her own REAL agenda, that will be great for me.

On the phisical side, I liked Morrigan the most. That "huge breasts" thing dont appeal to me the slightest, in ANY female character... Image IPB

Modifié par Drizzt ORierdan, 09 janvier 2011 - 12:02 .


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My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

hhh89 wrote...


My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Isabella is kind of a S***


Yes, becuse Leliana and Morrigna are the examples of virtue adn chastity<_<

because the only 2 levels of sexuality are S*** and chastity, there's no middle ground.


Leliana used sex for his own purpose in Orlais (stealing information, spyng and killing)....Isabela wants to have fun with sex, true, but I know a lot of male persons who do the same. Dont' think they are S****.

K..........
I don't get why brining this up

Sorry, forgot the female parts. The point is only because a persone have a sex-opened mind, this doesn't mean he/she's a S***.

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Ortaya Alevli wrote...
The female lead will probably be Aveline or some other companion we haven't heard of yet.
And what of the male lead? We haven't seen a human male yet, except Seb who is DLC, and a dwarf/elf as lead would be kind of a novelty.


The female lead will be Bethany if she is the survivor.
The male lead will be Carver if he is the survivor.
Hawke will fill the other role.