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[Avilia]

Taint Master wrote...

Anyone else think the deck is stacked against Isabela?  Taking the female lead after  Morrigan gives her some BIG shoes to fill.

If she doesn't measure up, will it hurt DA2?

Isabela does seem to have taken Morrigan's place in the marketing.  I think most of the pictures I've seen gracing the covers of gaming mags were of Male Hawke and Isabela.

I'm not a fan of Morrigan and didn't keep her in group most of the time (sent her off after reaching Lothering) so I can't comment on how large her shoes are.  I found her a bit of a plot device to avoid players always having to decide on someone dying to the AD.

Her story has developed past that now but that's my take on her original place in DA:O.

YMMV of course and I know she's very popular - my thoughts for what they're worth

Modifié par Avilia, 10 janvier 2011 - 12:28 .

[Eveangaline]

I liked Morrigan, but I didn't find her any better than any of the other companions, so I'd say Isabela will do just fine.

[HolyAvenger]

I barely spoke to Morrigan through the whole of Origins (ok I've only played through once so far). She's not necessarily any kind of lead at all...

[Shifty Assassin]

I think isabela would be fine i didnt really like morrigan much in the first place

[Lord Zeuss]

Whoa, I didn't think this would ever happen, but I can finally back Morrigan 100% on something. Go Morri!

[RosaAquafire]

Bioware can say all the want about Isabela not being the female lead, but the fact is



A) she's the first companion with a fully rendered wallpaper background

she's appeared prominently kissing Hawke in TWO official trailers

C) she's the person who's always standing at his side in promo images and whatnot -- when it's not Flemeth of course.



Sure, maybe her role in the actual game is minor, but damn if girl isn't being used extensively in marketting and image. I think people are going to be bemused if Isabela's as easy to miss as is being implied ...

(I hope she's not. Hates Gonna HAAAAY GIRL)

[Zaros]

Taint Master wrote...

Anyone else think the deck is stacked against Isabela?  Taking the female lead after  Morrigan gives her some BIG shoes to fill.

If she doesn't measure up, will it hurt DA2?

A good way to see if any character in any form of media will be popular or not is if they have a tragic/depressingly empty backstory.

Morrigan was raised alone by her mother, who had only intended to possess her (or worse, based on Witch Hunt).

Alistair's mother died, and he was eventually disowned by Isolde and shipped off to a chantry.

Leliana was betrayed by the woman she loved most.

(pretty much every other character fits here, with the exception of Oghren, who lost his wife and immediately went off to drink and hit on other women... yeah:?)

So if Isabella has some sort of history of abuse or not fitting in or w/e, she'll probably be a fan favorite.

[nijnij]

Zaros wrote...
A good way to see if any character in any form of media will be popular or not is if they have a tragic/depressingly empty backstory.

Morrigan was raised alone by her mother, who had only intended to possess her (or worse, based on Witch Hunt).

Alistair's mother died, and he was eventually disowned by Isolde and shipped off to a chantry.

Leliana was betrayed by the woman she loved most.

(pretty much every other character fits here, with the exception of Oghren, who lost his wife and immediately went off to drink and hit on other women... yeah:?)

So if Isabella has some sort of history of abuse or not fitting in or w/e, she'll probably be a fan favorite.

She lost her pants in a shipwreck and has been heartbroken eversince.

[crimzontearz]

Zaros wrote...
A good way to see if any character in any form of media will be popular or not is if they have a tragic/depressingly empty backstory.

Morrigan was raised alone by her mother, who had only intended to possess her (or worse, based on Witch Hunt).

Alistair's mother died, and he was eventually disowned by Isolde and shipped off to a chantry.

Leliana was betrayed by the woman she loved most.

(pretty much every other character fits here, with the exception of Oghren, who lost his wife and immediately went off to drink and hit on other women... yeah:?)

So if Isabella has some sort of history of abuse or not fitting in or w/e, she'll probably be a fan favorite.

up until ME2 Tali had only lost her mother and had a "military" upbinging....nothing TOO tragic and yet she was the biggest ensamble darkhorse EVER

[IndigoWolfe]

@Zaros



Her husband was assassinated? Although she didn't seem that broken up about it in Origins.

[crimzontearz]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

@Zaros

Her husband was assassinated? Although she didn't seem that broken up about it in Origins.

her husband was assassinated...and if I remember correctly she proceded to have sex with the assassin.....

[Avilia]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

@Zaros

Her husband was assassinated? Although she didn't seem that broken up about it in Origins.

Rather than broken up, I think she was pleased.  "Greasy bastard" iirc is how she referred to him.

[Lord Zeuss]

crimzontearz wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

@Zaros

Her husband was assassinated? Although she didn't seem that broken up about it in Origins.

her husband was assassinated...and if I remember correctly she proceded to have sex with the assassin.....

And she probably hired the assassin. Edit: To kill her husband, too.

Modifié par Lord Zeuss, 10 janvier 2011 - 03:35 .

[crimzontearz]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

@Zaros

Her husband was assassinated? Although she didn't seem that broken up about it in Origins.

her husband was assassinated...and if I remember correctly she proceded to have sex with the assassin.....

And she probably hired the assassin.

and sex was part of the payment.......

lucky bastard

[IndigoWolfe]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

@Zaros

Her husband was assassinated? Although she didn't seem that broken up about it in Origins.

her husband was assassinated...and if I remember correctly she proceded to have sex with the assassin.....

And she probably hired the assassin. Edit: To kill her husband, too.

[Nial Black-Knee]

I don't know. I've finished DA:O 5 times. And I still laugh everytime when Morrigan says " Does anyone else feel like vomiting? Nobody? " in the Dalish forrest camp. She can be such a b*tch. She was refreshing in that. I gues she could be considered a take off of Viconia. But to me she had some of the best one liners in the game.





The whole god-baby thing makes her transcend Origins and keeps her important in the series until we learn how that turns out. So for me it's gonna be hard to see Isabella in the same way unless she is relevant to more of the timeline than this one episode.



Love her or hate her. Morrigan is hard to ignore.

[CarlSpackler]

Nial Black-Knee wrote...

The whole god-baby thing makes her transcend Origins and keeps her important in the series until we learn how that turns out. So for me it's gonna be hard to see Isabella in the same way unless she is relevant to more of the timeline than this one episode.

Love her or hate her. Morrigan is hard to ignore.

This.

While I have every confidence in Bioware delivering some top notch NPCs that I find compelling and desire to spend time with, Morrigan's place in the DA is going to be hard to overlook. 

I have no doubt Bioware can deliver an NPC (or multiple NPCs) who are as well written and interesting as Morrigan was as an individual, but there was a sense in DAO of a much larger story at work.  That as looming and immediate as the blight was, should the blight be conquered there were big things on the horizon and Morrigan was a part of them.  It made DAO feel almost as much Morrigan's story as the Warden's.  And to the writers et al, thats not a complaint.  I loved DAO.

As for Isabella, there always seems to be a female "lead" whether labeled as such or not.  Morrigan had more of her story/romance/etc integreated into DAO than Leliana for example.  Miranda seemed to be favored with more reference and screen time than say Jack or Tali.  So if Isabella is this NPC -as she does seem to be from the marketing- I'm sure she will be equally interesting.  And given how enthusiastic Sheryl has been about writing her, I'm guessing we're in for a treat.  When a writer is excited about writing something, it usually turns out well.

The only downside is as stated above, Morrigan as an NPC felt so important to the DA larger story, it added an intangeible to her as NPC that was unmatched by any other in DAO (IMO) and likely difficult to match by any of the revealed companions thus far.

All that said it will be nice to have someone along who isn't such a b*tch all the time. 

[Follow Me on Twitter]

Why can't the lead female ever be a good girl?



Why do we get stuck with ****y witch and some ****ty pirate.

[Malanek]

I would have thought Bethany was more the female lead but I am trying to avoid following the story to avoid spoilers. Isabella looks and sounds pretty interesting so far though.

[AlAlva]

morrigan FTW