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Why do people complain about Mark Meer so much?


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Praetor Knight

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And to add, Shep is most likely a Mustang, so the way Meer talks fits the character anyway.

My only pet peeve with Shep is when I hear "aboot"

and Meer voiced the Vorcha! That had to be fun in studio.

Here are a few  youtube vids:
I should go .
Vorcha scream gurgle bit
snipit of actors http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMu5GbcILQo&NR=1

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I think most of the fanboi hate is because MM doesnt quite nail the renegade lines the same way JH does. JH nails about 90% of the renegade lines spot on, whereas MM only hits about 75%. That said, the opposite is true of Paragon. MM hits about 90% of them spot on, where JH only hits about 75%.


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I disagree on Renegade; MM nails them perfectly. JH doen't pull off the "big stupid jellyfish" line nearly as well, for instance.

As others have said, you really can't have a femshep switch between paragon and renegade; it doesn't work.

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Bogsnot1 wrote...

I think most of the fanboi hate is because MM doesnt quite nail the renegade lines the same way JH does. JH nails about 90% of the renegade lines spot on, whereas MM only hits about 75%. That said, the opposite is true of Paragon. MM hits about 90% of them spot on, where JH only hits about 75%.


Funny, in my experience, people usually say the exact opposite.  Only without the completely unverifiable statistics.

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I think people's problem with Mark Meer stems from how he voices Shepard very neutral so that the lines don't sound like two different characters when you go from paragon to renegade. I personally think it works for a lot of the deadpan lines but is very distracting other times.

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HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...

I disagree on Renegade; MM nails them perfectly. JH doen't pull off the "big stupid jellyfish" line nearly as well, for instance.
As others have said, you really can't have a femshep switch between paragon and renegade; it doesn't work.


Seems realistic enough to me; women tend to be as stable as a FemShep that goes Renegade every other dialogue wheel.

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Honestly I cant tell the difference between femshep and microsoft sam =/

The one reason I can't play a femshep. I cant get over that monotone voice.

Modifié par Sidac, 09 janvier 2011 - 03:49 .


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I like Meer's Shep; he comes off very well as a clear-headed, level-voiced, unfazable professional soldier that can do "tender" when it counts (see: LotSB). When I bought Mass Effect 2, I didn't order a large ham into the bargain.

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Good to see this debate rages on, still, oi. It's personal preference! Also keep in mind the forums are a small slice of fandom where the vocal minority often holds sway. I've seen just as many "WTF is wrong with Hale?!" threads. Personally, I think they both did a good job, but I tend to prefer Hale's Paragon delivery and Meer's Renegade, and slightly favor Meer in general because I almost always play Renegade.

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I prefer Hale's VA for Shepard but Mark Meer is ok by my books.  Though often reading through the threads I will see Hale fans bashing on Mark.

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Sidac wrote...
Honestly I cant tell the difference between femshep and microsoft sam =/
The one reason I can't play a femshep. I cant get over that monotone voice.


Really? I thought most guys don't speak with inflections unless they are really gay.

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Aurica wrote...

Sidac wrote...
Honestly I cant tell the difference between femshep and microsoft sam =/
The one reason I can't play a femshep. I cant get over that monotone voice.


Really? I thought most guys don't speak with inflections unless they are really gay.



You need to be gay to change the tone of your voice?

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flem1 wrote...

He was either directed to be inoffensively generic or picked because that's how he sounds.


He sounds different naturally, as noted by some commentors on some video interview with Meer and Hale. My best guess is he was directed to speak like that.

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Sidac wrote...

Aurica wrote...

Sidac wrote...
Honestly I cant tell the difference between femshep and microsoft sam =/
The one reason I can't play a femshep. I cant get over that monotone voice.


Really? I thought most guys don't speak with inflections unless they are really gay.



You need to be gay to change the tone of your voice?


Mark Meer isn't as monotone as microsoft Sam.  And I know tons of guys talk like that too. 

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Mark Meer's voice acting of Shepard is great. I've always liked him since ME 1 and I'm very happy Bioware chose him to voice Shepard.

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I find JH boring in her lines, its like she had somthing better to do when she was in the studio or somthing.



Meer did a fantastic job on shep, renegade in particular. All meer haters can suck it.

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Aurica wrote...

Sidac wrote...

Aurica wrote...

Sidac wrote...
Honestly I cant tell the difference between femshep and microsoft sam =/
The one reason I can't play a femshep. I cant get over that monotone voice.


Really? I thought most guys don't speak with inflections unless they are really gay.



You need to be gay to change the tone of your voice?


Mark Meer isn't as monotone as microsoft Sam.  And I know tons of guys talk like that too. 


In my defence I was talking about femshep being the rather monotone one,, not meer.

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Sidac wrote...

In my defence I was talking about femshep being the rather monotone one,, not meer.


My bad I misread it.

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Hale fanboys say Meer sucks. IMO. Meer was much better as a renegade, and Hale was the better paragon.

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Both Meer and Hale have their good points and bad points.  Meer's performance is stoic and more consistent. His VO in ME sometimes comes off as bland or dispassionate to some people. Others seem to prefer the disconnect or neutrality of his style. On the other side of the coin, Hale gives a very passionate performance and does a more convincing job w/ some of the more "emotional" scenes. However her performance is not as consistent and she can be quite over the top sometimes. That said, I can't stand Mark Meer's voice as Commander Shepard. It's not really his performance, though I prefer the passionate to the stoic, but his actual real voice makes me cringe. His other VO work in DA and in ME are outstanding.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 09 janvier 2011 - 05:29 .


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Jeez, can't we stop these Hale vs. Meer threads already? They're both great voice actors; it just so happens that Hale is a much more experienced one, considering she's worked on more projects than Meer probably ever will. But that doesn't negate the fact that Meer has done a great job as Shepard (especially in ME2). We should thank him and Hale for what they've done, regardless of our personal feelings on the matter. Shepard is already a very successful protagonist as it is.

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Mark Meer is usually bashed by the JH loyalists and feminists. I personally think Meer does a much better job. Hale is WAY too over dramatic, i cannot handle it when she says "Collectors". But like i said, it is personal preference.

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JamieCOTC wrote...

Both Meer and Hale have their good points and bad points.  Meer's performance is stoic and more consistent. His VO in ME sometimes comes off as bland or dispassionate to some people. Others seem to prefer the disconnect or neutrality of his style. On the other side of the coin, Hale gives a very passionate performance and does a more convincing job w/ some of the more "emotional" scenes. However her performance is not as consistent and she can be quite over the top sometimes. 


This. But personally I don't mind either.

On Hale's hand ME as a whole is over the top and full of ham, a little more doesn't hurt.
On Meer's hand he really nails the one liners because of his stoic performance, it fits the cliche fest that is Mass Effect.

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Well, since i'm too stoic in RL, maybe I tend to Meer Shep.

IDK though, emotion can be too fleeting, IMHO.

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I also like Mark Meer's VO. I prefer a calm and professional to an overly emotional Shepard.