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Inzhuna wrote...

What I wonder now is whether there is a preset (not default) that would lead to the Beth and Carver we know.

I'm interested in this as well. I'm planning to make my own custom Hawke that looks similar to default Hawke but with some modifications.

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[*]I got to agree with this guy.. I wanted to make a blonde guy, but being the only one amongst dark hairs .. Well, if there isnt a dad around I could pretend he is blonde? <.<;  

Meh might just stick with default hawk look like in mass effect. Though I hate the typical Dark haired hero crap -.- Make a blonde one for once bioware please!

My father has blue eyes and my mother has brown. While I share many obvious genetic characteristics from both of them, unlike either of my parents, I have wavy hair and my chest size is very different from my mother's--in other words, I received traits from my paternal grandmother, who had both of those traits. I also have green eyes, which neither of my parents have and none of my grandparents have; only some of my extended family. Yet I inherited my mom's acid reflux and my dad's allergy to mushrooms, among other things.

Not to mention, I've seen siblings plenty of times where two had dark hair and the third had blond or red hair. One case I can think of, both parents had dark hair too.

There is absolutely no reason not to make your blond hero. None at all. You will just have "your grandfather's hair." Nothing illogical or weird about that whatsoever.

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Wynne wrote...

There is absolutely no reason not to make your blond hero. None at all. You will just have "your grandfather's hair." Nothing illogical or weird about that whatsoever.

Indeed. :) I don't see what the problem is with the black hair thing. It's distinctly less omgwtfbbq being the white-skinned redheaded child of two white-skinned dark-haired people than being the black child of two white parents [black HN, whatever].

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It still would of been nice though.

If you can have skin and facial structures match up is it really so hard to have hair colours match too?

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Excellent! I like to make my first character Western Asian or Hispanic looking. Fortunately I played a mage in Origins, so it didn't matter so much, seeing as she was an orphan. But my black dwarf commoner and East Asian human noble just looked adopted. Especially the black dwarf, with her white skinned, red haired sister.

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ReallyRue wrote...

Excellent! I like to make my first character Western Asian or Hispanic looking. Fortunately I played a mage in Origins, so it didn't matter so much, seeing as she was an orphan. But my black dwarf commoner and East Asian human noble just looked adopted. Especially the black dwarf, with her white skinned, red haired sister.


Well, it kind of matters now, seeing how Hawke is related to the human mage Warden. So you'd still have to explain to yourself why your (distant?) cousin on your mothers side looks completely different from yourself and your siblings, if you choose to go down another road in customizing your Hawke than you chose in customizing your Amell (human mage).

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Wynne wrote...

mr_luga wrote...

[*]I got to agree with this guy.. I wanted to make a blonde guy, but being the only one amongst dark hairs .. Well, if there isnt a dad around I could pretend he is blonde? <.<;  

Meh might just stick with default hawk look like in mass effect. Though I hate the typical Dark haired hero crap -.- Make a blonde one for once bioware please!

My father has blue eyes and my mother has brown. While I share many obvious genetic characteristics from both of them, unlike either of my parents, I have wavy hair and my chest size is very different from my mother's--in other words, I received traits from my paternal grandmother, who had both of those traits. I also have green eyes, which neither of my parents have and none of my grandparents have; only some of my extended family. Yet I inherited my mom's acid reflux and my dad's allergy to mushrooms, among other things.

Not to mention, I've seen siblings plenty of times where two had dark hair and the third had blond or red hair. One case I can think of, both parents had dark hair too.

There is absolutely no reason not to make your blond hero. None at all. You will just have "your grandfather's hair." Nothing illogical or weird about that whatsoever.

One should note that this might be part of the reason Hawke's father doesn't make an appearance, as far as we know anyway.

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Shinannigan wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

Excellent! I like to make my first character Western Asian or Hispanic looking. Fortunately I played a mage in Origins, so it didn't matter so much, seeing as she was an orphan. But my black dwarf commoner and East Asian human noble just looked adopted. Especially the black dwarf, with her white skinned, red haired sister.


Well, it kind of matters now, seeing how Hawke is related to the human mage Warden. So you'd still have to explain to yourself why your (distant?) cousin on your mothers side looks completely different from yourself and your siblings, if you choose to go down another road in customizing your Hawke than you chose in customizing your Amell (human mage).


I intend to have a 'family resemblance' between the Hawkes and Amell on my Amell import. So the Hawkes will probably have a Hispanic look. Don't want to end up with an 'adopted Cousland' situation again. Image IPB

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 Does anyone know if eye color is affected as far as family resemblance goes?

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While I'm going to admit I'm a bit disappointed with the family always having black hair thing (just when I wanted my red haired/green eyed Hawke to have siblings and a mom that looked like him), I'm more than happy for this feature in general :)



I remember my original concept for a human noble in Origins was a black male, but upon seeing the preset family members I wound up rolling a brunette, green eyed white woman (I later made my original concept on the PC version and wrote his backstory as an alternate universe thing to where he is adopted). Even my platinum blonde, pale skinned city elf didn't exactly match his red-haired relatives...



At least this time family members will get to match. I once considered rolling a blonde or redhead character (just to see the family match), but upon hearing they all have black hair I'm going to likely create Rivani, African or Asian Hawkes. Still all good though ; )

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On the ironic side...my human Amell mage in Origins had black hair and blue eyes...so I guess a relation for Hawke isn't too far off

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Heh, my CE Warden (avatar) didn't look much like her father or cousins. But then in Leliana's Song it portrayed her mother as very dark-skinned, so it actually worked out. Cyrion's hair was grey anyway after all, and you never see your cousins' parents.



I did have that problem with my first Cousland though (first character rolled but never went past the Origin) - he looked suspiciously like Teryna Cousland had been having an affair with Duncan.

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Eudaemonium wrote...

Heh, my CE Warden (avatar) didn't look much like her father or cousins. But then in Leliana's Song it portrayed her mother as very dark-skinned, so it actually worked out.


Leliana's Song has the CE's mother in it? Where?

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brain_damage wrote...

Eudaemonium wrote...

Heh, my CE Warden (avatar) didn't look much like her father or cousins. But then in Leliana's Song it portrayed her mother as very dark-skinned, so it actually worked out.


Leliana's Song has the CE's mother in it? Where?


She's the elf woman Leliana rescues in the dungeons. That, or it's a highly egregious case of homonymy.

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I believe one of the devs (Gaider?) confirmed that it was her. I can't be bothered to trawl through the forum searching for the post, though. Maybe one of them will jump in here and state either way.

Or I could just invoke the 1 Steve Limit. Or the 1 Adaia Limit in this case.

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I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

 Does anyone know if eye color is affected as far as family resemblance goes?


I have no confirmed answer, but based on screenshots I would guess that Carver always has blue eyes and Bethany always has brown (plus the black hair for both).

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For those of you upset about the hair color thing, fear not. I'm sure a mod or two will come out serving you with Hawke Family genetic goodness. Providing you get the PC version, of course.

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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

I can offer a little more clarity here.

  • Your family's facial structure is based on the preset head you pick so that they look related, unless you wildly deviate from the basic structure of the preset's face, in which case, hey...go ahead! It's your game, after all.
  • Your family's skin tone is then evaluated and changed to something close to the skin tone you pick as a second pass. This is evaluated seperately from the facial structure.
  • Your family will always have black hair.
It's a very neat system, and really plays to our theme of family, I think. Hope you enjoy.

If this makes it to the final game, that...would...be...AWESOME. So cool.Image IPB

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The family members always having black hair make sense though. It doesn't affect your Hawke anyway.



I like the feature

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Woow....I can't wait to see what happens when I start messing with this :)



I can't imagine Bethany or Carver with black skin when I make my Hawke O_O



Like Fallout 3?

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So...

since your family's faces change with yours, do you get to see a preview of each one as an option in the character creator? Cuz if I make my Hawke and my family just looks messed up, I would probably start over...

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LPPrince wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

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Yeah, lets go with that. lolz

THIS IS MY HAWKE&BETHANY:D

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That sounds like a pretty clever feature, hopefully it will remain in the game and not get cut as was suggested as a possibility earlier. Love the idea!

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I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

So...
since your family's faces change with yours, do you get to see a preview of each one as an option in the character creator? Cuz if I make my Hawke and my family just looks messed up, I would probably start over...


Oh, that's quite a good question. I don't want Bethany/Carver to look odd. Although, I imagine Bioware would make them look appealing for each preset for Hawke. Still, it would be good if we could check in character creator.

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Bethany and Carver's hair will always be black? I am disappoint.



No, I'm joking. It doesn't bother me because I usually play dark haired characters anyway. And if I do want to play a light haired Hawke, my father had red hair as does my mother. My one brother and I have dark brown hair and my other brother has blond hair, so it's really not a stretch for me.