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[Veex]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Quarians live with very little privacy. The masks are all they can get.

I assume that this explanation is probably as lore specific as we'll get thus far. The living conditions on Quarian vessels, where you've essentially got hundreds to thousands of individuals living in metal cubicles, necessitates a certain degree of privacy be maintained if even by small means.

The real reason is obviously that BioWare either doesn't want us to know, or isn't ready to reveal exactly how Quarians look.

[Archereon]

Schneidend wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

It would be realistic, and the Lazarus project made sure ME lost all of it's realism (wich was a lot).

Liberal applications of genetic engineering, medi-gel, money, and cybernetics, all of which were known to exist in ME1 are "unrealistic"? Thanks. I now know exactly how seriously I should take your comments in the future. That is to say, "not very much at all."

As for quarians: privacy, and a killer Poker face.

All of those things, save the medi-gel (and with nanotechnology advancing as it is, who knows) are likely to exist within 20-50 years of now.  Mass Effect, along with most other sci-fi vastly overestimates advances in certain technologies (Faster than light mostly), and vastly under estimates advances (or the implications of advances) in pretty much every other technology that they didn't pull out of their arse.  (the titular Mass Effect for example.)

It's actually quite possible that the human race as we know it will have been replaced by what be described best as "something else."  Many estimates place a real technological singularity at around 2070, and with the rate of technological advancement that occurs after that, 2185 is likely to have even crazier technology.  

While I'm somewhat skeptical of the singularity, its almost inevitable that we'll be a lot (and by a lot, I mean incomprehensibly) more advanced by the time Mass Effect rolls around in real life than we are in just about any science fiction portrayal where technology isn't magic with a different name.

However, Shepard's resurrection is just one thing that simply will not happen in the future.  While it's likely we'll be able to push the time between the body's failure and "death" further, the circumstances under which Shepard's resurrection happen are simply not possible.  Besides the likelihood that there wouldn't be enough of Shepard left to fill a thimble (Bioware's explanation that the Normandy was "all full stop", despite the fact that it only needs to be stationary compared to the planet, is such a contrived coincidence that it strains my willing suspension of disbelief), the amount of damage the brain would suffer from being starved of oxygen for so long would be impossible to fix.

But that is a massive digression.  Honestly, I imagine quarian face masks are purple/tinted because seeing their faces completely ruins the mystery.

Modifié par Archereon, 10 janvier 2011 - 02:53 .

[swenson]

And to continue the digression, don't forget that this is also after we discovered even more highly advanced species out there, including the leftovers from the Protheans, who were even *more* advanced than the turians, asari, etc. So I don't think it's possible to talk about what is or isn't plausible in the world of Mass Effect.

[Archereon]

swenson wrote...

And to continue the digression, don't forget that this is also after we discovered even more highly advanced species out there, including the leftovers from the Protheans, who were even *more* advanced than the turians, asari, etc. So I don't think it's possible to talk about what is or isn't plausible in the world of Mass Effect.

The problem is that they should be a lot more advanced then they are in the game.

[DJBare]

Schneidend wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

Wathever. I was talking abourt the ideology of ME. And what makes you think any of that stuff is fantasy. Money? whf. 20 years ago, wireless connection would have been considered crazy. If everyone thought like you we would still be stuck in the middle ages.

What are you talking about? You said the Lazarus Project removed ME's realism/plausibility and I pointed out why it clearly does not.

I'm not opposed to it because it's "scifi", but I agree with Pwner1323, they took a "dead" body and resurrected it, we are more than the sum of our parts, the brain would have been destroyed and along with it the essence of that person, sure, they could rebuild the entire body, but it would just be a shell.

[Archereon]

DJBare wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

Wathever. I was talking abourt the ideology of ME. And what makes you think any of that stuff is fantasy. Money? whf. 20 years ago, wireless connection would have been considered crazy. If everyone thought like you we would still be stuck in the middle ages.

What are you talking about? You said the Lazarus Project removed ME's realism/plausibility and I pointed out why it clearly does not.

I'm not opposed to it because it's "scifi", but I agree with Pwner1323, they took a "dead" body and resurrected it, we are more than the sum of our parts, the brain would have been destroyed and along with it the essence of that person, sure, they could rebuild the entire body, but it would just be a shell.

Um, I disagree with the "more than the sum of our parts" concept, being an atheist.  However, it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get all those parts back together and in working order considering the state Shepard was in (meat and tubes does not give a particularly promising prognosis (hehe)).  At best, you'd end up with a completely new person, or one with cursory similarities to Shepard.  At worst?  A dead body no better off than what you started with, and a lot of wasted money.

[DJBare]

Archereon wrote...

Um, I disagree with the "more than the sum of our parts" concept, being an atheist.

That made me laugh, I'm also an atheist, when I say we are more than the sum of our parts, I'm not talking spiritually, but the day I can say I know it all is the day I stop learning.

[MassEffect762]

Bioware didn't plan ahead is my guess, just winging the whole thing.

[diskoh]

Hammertime80 wrote...

kill_switch_423 wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

It would be realistic, and the Lazarus project made sure ME lost all of it's realism (wich was a lot).

Liberal applications of genetic engineering, medi-gel, money, and cybernetics, all of which were known to exist in ME1 are "unrealistic"? Thanks. I now know exactly how seriously I should take your comments in the future. That is to say, "not very much at all."

As for quarians: privacy, and a killer Poker face.

Wathever. I was talking abourt the ideology of ME. And what makes you think any of that stuff is fantasy. Money? whf. 20 years ago, wireless connection would have been considered crazy. If everyone thought like you we would still be stuck in the middle ages.

So then why is the Lazarus Project so unbelievable thousands of years in the future? >.>;

Way to contradict your own argument, buddy. 

Also, way to take the ONE believable thing on his list as source for your argument while ignoring the others.  :innocent:

OT:  I just thought about this the other day.  An explanation would be nice, while my personal belief is some sort of UVA/UVB sensitivity. Or simply a plot device to create (succesfully) a mystery to the species.

Hate to be a stickler, but the events of Mass Effect take place in the 2100's.

ME2 is in 2185, that's less than 200 years, not thousands. lol.

[Archereon]

DJBare wrote...

Archereon wrote...

Um, I disagree with the "more than the sum of our parts" concept, being an atheist.

That made me laugh, I'm also an atheist, when I say we are more than the sum of our parts, I'm not talking spiritually, but the day I can say I know it all is the day I stop learning.

just checking.  I've heard worse arguments on this forum.  (Worse in that they're bringing spiritual concepts into a game that largely avoids such concepts.)

[kill_switch_423]

diskoh wrote...

Hammertime80 wrote...

kill_switch_423 wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

It would be realistic, and the Lazarus project made sure ME lost all of it's realism (wich was a lot).

Liberal applications of genetic engineering, medi-gel, money, and cybernetics, all of which were known to exist in ME1 are "unrealistic"? Thanks. I now know exactly how seriously I should take your comments in the future. That is to say, "not very much at all."

As for quarians: privacy, and a killer Poker face.

Wathever. I was talking abourt the ideology of ME. And what makes you think any of that stuff is fantasy. Money? whf. 20 years ago, wireless connection would have been considered crazy. If everyone thought like you we would still be stuck in the middle ages.

So then why is the Lazarus Project so unbelievable thousands of years in the future? >.>;

Way to contradict your own argument, buddy. 

Also, way to take the ONE believable thing on his list as source for your argument while ignoring the others.  :innocent:

OT:  I just thought about this the other day.  An explanation would be nice, while my personal belief is some sort of UVA/UVB sensitivity. Or simply a plot device to create (succesfully) a mystery to the species.

Hate to be a stickler, but the events of Mass Effect take place in the 2100's.

ME2 is in 2185, that's less than 200 years, not thousands. lol.

If you'd bother to have read any further, you'd have noticed I have already been corrected.  It was a hasty post, I messed up.  I then fixed it.  So... yeah, thanks for the contribution. 

[Destroy Raiden_]

My theory is they’re like Riddick and their world is shrouded in near darkness most of the year with a brief sunlight summer period. This would explain why Quarian’s eyes glow and geth have flashlight heads. Also they tend to build inside mountains or below ground so maybe during the short summer the sun is absolutely brutal like burning anything that’s not underground during that time like Hastrom just worse. The tinted visor protects their eyes like sunglasses for us if they were on their homeworld they would not wear the glasses and most likely have little interior lighting because they would not need it with cat like eyes.

[DJBare]

m4walker wrote...
+1
You can't just bring parts togheter...you need the spark of life, the spark of life given by god.

Gee, and there I thought it was the friction between my mum and dad that created my spark.

[adam_grif]

m4walker wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

It would be realistic, and the Lazarus project made sure ME lost all of it's realism (wich was a lot).

+1
You can't just bring parts togheter...you need the spark of life, the spark of life given by god.

But, the resurrection of shepard could be a miracle. miracles happen, that is a fact, you damn atheists.

Comedy post of the week.

[Emperor Mars]

Personally, I wonder why no one has any pictures or videos of them without a mask...


I will go ahead and throw my hat into the UV protection ring...Also if I recall the mask has all sorts of electronic gizmos inside it, a HUD and what not, it could have something to do with that as well.

Course I might be remembering wrong...but I think the UV is more plausible.

Also this thread is running towards lock down at a surprsing rate.

Modifié par Emperor Mars, 10 janvier 2011 - 02:00 .

[Elite Midget]

Simple.... The Quarins want to attract other races through lies and deception than when the mask if off...



The trap is sprung~!

[DTKT]

I do believe people are looking too much into the Quarian mystery. Because, really, that's all it is. They simply created an interesting race with a great backstory and lore.



That they choose to reveal or not the Quarian physical appearance is entirely up to them.

[GODzilla]

I say it's like sun glasses. They easily get sick, I think it's plausible to say that they could also be sensible to sunlight...

[Uszi]

Tinted visors are hater blockers.

Quarian sunglasses, yo.







Lord knows they need 'em. What with all the haters and all.

[Keldian]

m4walker wrote...

adam_grif wrote...

m4walker wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

It would be realistic, and the Lazarus project made sure ME lost all of it's realism (wich was a lot).

+1
You can't just bring parts togheter...you need the spark of life, the spark of life given by god.

But, the resurrection of shepard could be a miracle. miracles happen, that is a fact, you damn atheists.

Comedy post of the week.

Stop this. No talk of religon or others beliefs should be brought into this. There are other places on the net for that.

I personal think Bioware do have a design for how they should look like under the mask but thought it easier to just make a plain face plate instead of showing detailed face.

[Eyeshield21]

I just wish we can see Tali's face, we don't know what she looks like but a LOT of people want to for some reason

[james1976]

Who knows, in LotSB in Tali's file it mentions the upgrades she had done to her enviromental suit. Who is to say she doesn't make another by the end of ME3 with a clear visor. Would definately make sense if Shepard was in a romance with her I think.