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oldgodbioware wrote...

Im having very mixed feeling on wheter, i should get Da2 from all the Screenshots and video's ive seen so far the game's graphics and style looks like something out of the sims or an ainmie which i dread!,i liked DAO realistic approach to things,what are your opinions.

Loaded question much?

Anyway, yes. To cartoony, to JRPG, to anime, to many silly moves.

[Ziggeh]

errant_knight wrote...

one that maintains the feel of medieval europe.

Isn't that fairly subjective? We're basing our expectations of that upon individual exposure to various media representations. When people use "realism" in this thread, they don't mean "as pertains to reality".

My image tends to have a lot of red and gold in it. Something to do with '80s bbc adpatations I think. Tudors and such. But there's definitely a healthy dose of monty python in there.

[Xewaka]

Ziggeh wrote...
Isn't that fairly subjective? We're basing our expectations of that upon individual exposure to various media representations. When people use "realism" in this thread, they don't mean "as pertains to reality".
My image tends to have a lot of red and gold in it. Something to do with '80s bbc adpatations I think. Tudors and such. But there's definitely a healthy dose of monty python in there.

Monty Phyton makes everything awesomer.

[ToJKa1]

From what i've seen so far, i prefer Origins' style. As for cartoony? No, but i'd prefer cartoony over the current look.



Oh well, maybe the screenshots are from an old build, and the promised Dx11 effects make it better looking...

[Aldandil]

No, I don't think it's too cartoony, because I don't really care about how it looks. I'm not going to say I think it looks great, either, for the exact same reason. If the game plays well, I think it's fair to say it looks good enough.



It's funny, before DA:O was released, there were a ton of threads about how god awful the graphics were. I'm sure those were made by different players complaining now, but still, it shows that no matter what they do, people are going to complain.

[ErichHartmann]

Adds "cartoony" to a list of buzz words thrown around this forum.

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it kinda has that WOW look. The elves long ears are cartoony for sure.

[MerinTB]

Yes...
ish.

It's not grating or bad, to me, it's level of cartoony-ness....

and I can love a good cartoony style (Comic Jumper, Plants vs. Zombies, Power Puff GIrls, etc.)

I think DA2's new style is a bit cartoony, compared to DA:O. Not too cartoony for it to bother me, though.

I'm not an overall fine of the art style, but "cartoony" isn't the issue for me.  It's certainly now Warcraft level of cartoony that bugged the crap out of me way back with the first Warcraft RTS.

ErichHartmann wrote...
Adds "cartoony" to a list of buzz words thrown around this forum.

Adds "buzz word" to "can't define what that means" as list of things people say to dismiss others trying to explain something the best they can.

Modifié par MerinTB, 10 janvier 2011 - 06:21 .

[AngelicMachinery]

I don't really see a difference, outside of Dragon Age Origins having a few over exaggerated facial creases.

[In Exile]

errant_knight wrote...

I think it is. I much prefer a more realistic style, and for this series, one that maintains the feel of medieval europe. I liked the 'almost, but not quite' parallels. I thought it added to the game. I didn't have a problem with the colors in DA:O. It looked natural to me, and unlike Sebastian's armor, it didn't hurt my eyes. Primary colors are all well and good in real life, but on a computer screen, they're a bit much.

I think this is where you find the conflict. I absolutely abhor a realistic style, and nothing can make me happier than the fact DA2 has decided to drive a stake into the heart of the medieval european fantasy setting.

[AlanC9]

Xebioz wrote...
- Animations are the problem for me. As the characters seem to be teleporting (yes, like an anime) .

Teleporting is a feature of anime? Guess I don't know very much about anime.

Actually, that's a feature of a lot of these threads. So many posters complain that DA2 is like anime, or Dynasty Warriors, or something else that the poster doesn't like and I'm unfamiliar with. How is it that so many people know so much about stuff they don't like?

Edit: obviously, I'm assuming that people know what they're talking about.

Modifié par AlanC9, 10 janvier 2011 - 06:27 .

[Xewaka]

AlanC9 wrote...
Teleporting is a feature of anime? Guess I don't know very much about anime.
Actually, that's a feature of a lot of these threads. So many posters complain that DA2 is like anime, or Dynasty Warriors, or something else that the poster doesn't like and I'm unfamiliar with. How is it that so many people know so much about stuff they don't like?

For the same reason the most vitriolic anti-tobbaco protesters are ex-smokers.

Modifié par Xewaka, 10 janvier 2011 - 06:40 .

[In Exile]

Addai67 wrote...

I agree that Origins was too brown in areas.  Denerim, yes, that failed for me visually and was 100% improved in Leliana's Song just by being at night.  But there were some beautiful areas in Origins which were not brown at all so that criticism can be exaggerated.  Here's an example. 

That's a beautiful shot, but to me, it drives at the heart of what the problem is with DA:O re: art style and atmosphere. Shots like that are so easy to miss. If you don't angle the camera right, and to capture that sort of scene - you're never going to see it. Just like the temple of Andraste in haven. In OTS with the camera aimed up at the ceiling, especially in 1920 by 1280 - it's a great view. But it's rare.

The other issue is that these are environmental shots.

[AlanC9]

I always thought anti-tobacco activism was basically a religion rather than a rational position. (You mean "protesters," I think, not "protestants".)

So you're a recovering anime addict, Xewaka?

Modifié par AlanC9, 10 janvier 2011 - 06:32 .

[In Exile]

AlanC9 wrote...
Teleporting is a feature of anime? Guess I don't know very much about anime.

I can only think of one anime I saw were teleporting was actually a feature. But it was a former girlfriend of mine who was really into it, so I ended up seeing the stuff she was into, which was basically a gore slaughterfest. Based on my experience, the most anime part of DA2 - aside from the stylistic versus medieval armour for Hawke we've seen at certain points - is the outrageous amount of blood.

[AlanC9]

Former girlfriend who was into gore? Shoulda hung on to that one.

[LORDOFDARKNESSKNIGHTlol]

Looks and plays like World of Warcraft may as well call it single player World of Dragonagecraft

[AngelicMachinery]

LORDOFDARKNESSKNIGHTlol wrote...

Looks and plays like World of Warcraft may as well call it single player World of Dragonagecraft

Dragon Age Origins played like world of warcraft except you were controlling 4 people.  

[Amioran]

Captain Sassy Pants wrote...

Looks cartoony as hell (see: less realistic) and flat. Just look in the side by side comparison shots in some other threads.

Screenshots comparisions to judge style = fail.

Hint: know of what you are babbling about before posting.

[Amioran]

Captain Sassy Pants wrote...
Actually, it's terrible. But, to each his own.

This would make sense if you said: I don't like it, but to each his own. But since you judge something you have not the capability of judging (as it is evident from the prior post) you failed for the second time.

[Xewaka]

AlanC9 wrote...
I always thought anti-tobacco activism was basically a religion rather than a rational position. (You mean "protesters," I think, not "protestants".)

Thank you for pointing that out. False friends on translations are sneaky like that.

AlanC9 wrote...
So you're a recovering anime addict, Xewaka?

Nah. Mostly bitter that Berserk was discontinued in Spain.
My trouble with the art direction is not because of cartoony or animesque but because lack of verisimilitude in character design and animation frames gone missing. And coherency with preestablished continuity. I understand it has to bend sometimes but to break it after one game is a bit ridiculous.

Modifié par Xewaka, 10 janvier 2011 - 06:41 .

[Merci357]

Given a choice, I'd take the Origins style anyday. Not that the more stylised approach in DA2 makes or breaks my game, far from it - it's just that Matthew Goldman failed to impress me with Jade Empire, and the same is true here. It's decent, however some "monster" models looked ridiculous in JE, and some in DA2 look like taken directly from a very bad and dated B-movie.

Like I said, I'm okay with the look, it won't get into my way, I could enjoy JE, and I'm quite confident DA2 is a far better game.