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[Marta Rio]

scyphozoa wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

And so it begins. The magical prothean discovery pulled out of Bioware's ass that will save the galaxy.

I really hope I'm wrong.

I hope you're wrong too, because the whole plot of ME1 is racing to discover and reach a magical Prothean *weapon to defend against the reapers. (conduit) It would seem pretty weaksauce if there was another secret enclave of surviving Protheans who built a super-laser that they never had time to finish..or something. 

Anyway, I highly doubt this is it. However - I do think there should be more prothean content in the ME franchise. Not a super-weapon, but I've always wanted to see more than ruins.  I found Ilos disappointingly small and unused. I would have liked a lot more time spent exploring and investigating Ilos. 

Eh, I'm actually hoping the main plot of ME3 is more along the lines of something smaller-scale like "figure out what the protheans knew, and build on that" rather than "have one (wo)man, with little political experience, assemble a massive army".   You know, something that one space marine and a small team could plausibly handle.  That being said, I do hope that the plot is not "find the magical prothean macguffin that will somehow make everything ok".

This CDN post is intriguing, especially given the possible Cerberus ties.  I've thought for a while that the Martian prothean ruins will come into play at some point, so maybe this is some foreshadowing?  Or a giant red herring?

[Shadesofsiknas]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Uh, If the Protheans got wiped out by the Reapers, would it make any sense for it them to possess the technology to destroy them? If so, why didn't they utilize it? Did they choose submission (becoming Collectors) over combat?

Perhaps thety concieved the way to stop them but never got to realise it before they were beaten.So Shep can see it fulfilled.

[Dionkey]

This might be wishful thinking but with all this talk of Cerberus and the Alliance, perhaps this could be included in the Virmire Survivor DLC.

[Vaenier]

The Relay was encased in ice and became a moon. It is not a natural thing to occur, someone did that to it. We have never heard of another relay like that, so it is unlikely the Reapers did it. Once it was covered over, it would be inoperable, so those on this side of the relay would be trapped. Seems like ilos was not the only Prothean holdout from the Reapers.

[Dionkey]

Vaenier wrote...

The Relay was encased in ice and became a moon. It is not a natural thing to occur, someone did that to it. We have never heard of another relay like that, so it is unlikely the Reapers did it. Once it was covered over, it would be inoperable, so those on this side of the relay would be trapped. Seems like ilos was not the only Prothean holdout from the Reapers.

Hmm, I never thought of that. Interesting theory. Does that mean the reapers never got to them and they just rotted in the bunker or did they integrate into earths society? I could totally see BW pulling "the protheans are our ancestors" thing. They did look very human like. Perhaps those orbs we found with the evidence of the protheans experimenting on early humans was testing if their immune system could survive efficently on earth.

[James2912]

Vaenier wrote...

The Relay was encased in ice and became a moon. It is not a natural thing to occur, someone did that to it. We have never heard of another relay like that, so it is unlikely the Reapers did it. Once it was covered over, it would be inoperable, so those on this side of the relay would be trapped. Seems like ilos was not the only Prothean holdout from the Reapers.

Brilliant idea I think it would make an awesome twist and its very plausible it could be the real twist!!!!

[kidbd15]

James2912 wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

The Relay was encased in ice and became a moon. It is not a natural thing to occur, someone did that to it. We have never heard of another relay like that, so it is unlikely the Reapers did it. Once it was covered over, it would be inoperable, so those on this side of the relay would be trapped. Seems like ilos was not the only Prothean holdout from the Reapers.

Brilliant idea I think it would make an awesome twist and its very plausible it could be the real twist!!!!

It's funny because for some reason I thought the relay being encased in ice by the protheans was common knowledge... not sure why I thought that...

Anyways, back to OP... I always wanted us to go back to Mars and visit the prothean ruin and would very much like this CDN to be a lead in to that.  I wouldn't want there to be a secret weapon, but it would be nice to learn something of humanities past, a secret reveal of the protheans... knowledge to help destroy the reapers would be great, just not a weapon

[James2912]

kidbd15 wrote...

James2912 wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

The Relay was encased in ice and became a moon. It is not a natural thing to occur, someone did that to it. We have never heard of another relay like that, so it is unlikely the Reapers did it. Once it was covered over, it would be inoperable, so those on this side of the relay would be trapped. Seems like ilos was not the only Prothean holdout from the Reapers.

Brilliant idea I think it would make an awesome twist and its very plausible it could be the real twist!!!!

It's funny because for some reason I thought the relay being encased in ice by the protheans was common knowledge... not sure why I thought that...

Anyways, back to OP... I always wanted us to go back to Mars and visit the prothean ruin and would very much like this CDN to be a lead in to that.  I wouldn't want there to be a secret weapon, but it would be nice to learn something of humanities past, a secret reveal of the protheans... knowledge to help destroy the reapers would be great, just not a weapon

I thought it was possible that over tens of thousands of years the relay could have been encased in ice and mistaken for a moon.

[Vaenier]

James2912 wrote...

I thought it was possible that over tens of thousands of years the relay could have been encased in ice and mistaken for a moon.

The water has to come from somewhere, and it would take a very large amounts of space rocks to encase that to the point of looking like a moon... Most would just bounce off, the impacts would knock it out of its orbit.

[solsystem]

Vaenier wrote...

The Relay was encased in ice and became a moon. It is not a natural thing to occur, someone did that to it. We have never heard of another relay like that, so it is unlikely the Reapers did it. Once it was covered over, it would be inoperable, so those on this side of the relay would be trapped. Seems like ilos was not the only Prothean holdout from the Reapers.

i like this idea...

i think this CDN could be a very cool DLC story.

[Marcin K]

do you think this CDN could be a spoiler of some future DLC for ME2?

[SpectreSeven]

Lol @ Citadel reps not getting the artifacts



Serves them right for dismissing our claims

[James2912]

Vaenier wrote...

James2912 wrote...

I thought it was possible that over tens of thousands of years the relay could have been encased in ice and mistaken for a moon.

The water has to come from somewhere, and it would take a very large amounts of space rocks to encase that to the point of looking like a moon... Most would just bounce off, the impacts would knock it out of its orbit.

Yes now that you mention it and I thought about it I agree it would be a brilliant twist! I just didn't think much about it at the  time. 

[didymos1120]

Marcin R wrote...

do you think this CDN could be a spoiler of some future DLC for ME2?

Based on the past..no.  The closest we've had to that were a couple mentions of Tela Vasir being involved in some arrests.

[didymos1120]

Vaenier wrote...
The water has to come from somewhere, and it would take a very large amounts of space rocks to encase that to the point of looking like a moon... Most would just bounce off, the impacts would knock it out of its orbit.

It's was the moon Charon, so it wasn't all water ice.  It was also methane and nitrogen ices, along with various amounts of other crap, including rock.

[FireEye]

... so if the Valles Marineris is what they used for Klendagon and the Protheans sealed the relay...



Nah.

[Dean_the_Young]

didymos1120 wrote...

Vaenier wrote...
The water has to come from somewhere, and it would take a very large amounts of space rocks to encase that to the point of looking like a moon... Most would just bounce off, the impacts would knock it out of its orbit.

It's was the moon Charon, so it wasn't all water ice.  It was also methane and nitrogen ices, along with various amounts of other crap, including rock.

And in this Mass Effect AU-ness of Pluto and Charon, it might not have been that much either.

[didymos1120]

[quote]Dean_the_Young wrote...
It's was the moon Charon, so it wasn't all water ice.  It was also methane and nitrogen ices, along with various amounts of other crap, including rock.

[/quote]And in this Mass Effect AU-ness of Pluto and Charon, it might not have been that much either.
[/quote]

True.  Has anybody actually worked out a size estimate of the Charon relay?  I'm wondering how much of Charon's volume it was taking up.

[Dean_the_Young]

I don't think they've ever given us the size estimates of any relay. They're just supposed to be really, really big.

[Dionkey]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

I don't think they've ever given us the size estimates of any relay. They're just supposed to be really, really big.

If you compare the Normandys size to the relay jump in the opening of ME1 it looks 1000 times bigger.

[RiouHotaru]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

The Milky Way Foundation is nearly as old as Cerberus itself: well, well before it ever went 'rogue.' For the Alliance'not to know that Cerberus and the Milky Way Foundation  were linked druing the decade+ of direct Alliance/Cerberus connection is such an atrocious oversight during the times of outright Alliance oversight as to be an idiot ball of Collector Base proportions.

While it doesn't say that Cerberus is strictly a part of the Alliance as it once was, the designation of a Cerberus company to handle potent technology of galactic implications is a very strong indicator of continued Cerberus/Alliance connections at the highest levels. (Which we already knew, but this just furthers how far that spreads: not simply a face-to-face basis of TIM being able to place calls, but actual Cerberus-tied organizations being allowed to handle such data at all.)

Not necessarily an oversight, Dean.  Sure, the Milky Way Foundation is as old as Cerberus, but that doesn't tell us anything.  Exactly when it was founded, who founded it, etc, etc.  Remember, several top officials in the Alliance military are on Cerberus' payroll.  So the "egregious oversight" you mention might not even be the Alliance's fault.  All it takes are the traitors within the military to misplace files or redirect investigations, and nobody finds anything but a dead-end.

So, technically, this doesn't prove anything.

[The Smoking Man]

didymos1120 wrote...

True.  Has anybody actually worked out a size estimate of the Charon relay?  I'm wondering how much of Charon's volume it was taking up.

The relay Sovereign came through looked roughly sorta the same size as it. Maybe a bit bigger.

Modifié par The Smoking Man, 10 janvier 2011 - 10:44 .

[Praetor Knight]

The Smoking Man wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

True.  Has anybody actually worked out a size estimate of the Charon relay?  I'm wondering how much of Charon's volume it was taking up.

The relay Sovereign came through looked roughly sorta the same size as it. Maybe a bit bigger.

I was wondering, could there be different sizes for the Primary and Secondary Relays, because of how they operate?

Here's the wiki: http://masseffect.wi..._Relay#Overview

[Iakus]

My thoughts?  Please let this be a clue as to how the Lazarus Project got started!   The Cure for Death never sat well for me as a plot device (putting it mildly).  If in fact, Cerberus has been secretly skimming Prothean technology, and has been adapting Sufficiently Advanced tech for human use, well, I think I could actually hold my nose and go with that.

[Shepard needs a Vacation]

secret knowledge is in there and may lead us on our way to the ME2 DLC