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Well, epilogue negation confirmed in DA2 guys :P

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David Gaider wrote...

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I don't have any problem in the return of a companion of DAO as a companion in DA2, but in the case of Anders, I have some doubts, only because in some endings he remains with the Wardens at Vigil's Keep. I'm ok I there's an explanation about his return, but I wouldn't like an Anders that has the same situation for every type of DAA import.


No matter what character we bring in, if they had any epilogue text (no matter how far into the future that epilogue forecast) I'm positive that we won't treat them nearly as sacrosanct as some people on these forums will think we should. That's not, you'll note, the same as not dealing with them at all. Image IPB

always thought there was more story to the drunken depressed and exiled Alistair.

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KennethAFTopp wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
I don't have any problem in the return of a companion of DAO as a companion in DA2, but in the case of Anders, I have some doubts, only because in some endings he remains with the Wardens at Vigil's Keep. I'm ok I there's an explanation about his return, but I wouldn't like an Anders that has the same situation for every type of DAA import.


No matter what character we bring in, if they had any epilogue text (no matter how far into the future that epilogue forecast) I'm positive that we won't treat them nearly as sacrosanct as some people on these forums will think we should. That's not, you'll note, the same as not dealing with them at all. Image IPB

always thought there was more story to the drunken depressed and exiled Alistair.


Doubt that would be any more than a cameo, give the vast majority of players probably don't even have that option.

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David Gaider wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
I don't have any problem in the return of a companion of DAO as a companion in DA2, but in the case of Anders, I have some doubts, only because in some endings he remains with the Wardens at Vigil's Keep. I'm ok I there's an explanation about his return, but I wouldn't like an Anders that has the same situation for every type of DAA import.


No matter what character we bring in, if they had any epilogue text (no matter how far into the future that epilogue forecast) I'm positive that we won't treat them nearly as sacrosanct as some people on these forums will think we should. That's not, you'll note, the same as not dealing with them at all. Image IPB


It's not the problem of the epilogue, but how Anders (if is a companion) acts. I really like Anders in DAA, and if he returns, I'm happy with that. I only want some changes in the dialogue, based on how he acted in Aweakening. What I don't want is that he tells my Hawke how my Warden gave him to the templars, while I haven't done such a thing.
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hhh89 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
I don't have any problem in the return of a companion of DAO as a companion in DA2, but in the case of Anders, I have some doubts, only because in some endings he remains with the Wardens at Vigil's Keep. I'm ok I there's an explanation about his return, but I wouldn't like an Anders that has the same situation for every type of DAA import.


No matter what character we bring in, if they had any epilogue text (no matter how far into the future that epilogue forecast) I'm positive that we won't treat them nearly as sacrosanct as some people on these forums will think we should. That's not, you'll note, the same as not dealing with them at all. Image IPB


It's not the problem of the epilogue, but how Anders (if is a companion) acts. I really like Anders in DAA, and if he returns, I'm happy with that. I only want some changes in the dialogue, based on how he acted in Aweakening. What I don't want is that he tells my Hawke how my Warden gave him to the templars, while I haven't done such a thing.
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that would be resolved if his cameo happened before he ended up in amaranthine

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
I don't have any problem in the return of a companion of DAO as a companion in DA2, but in the case of Anders, I have some doubts, only because in some endings he remains with the Wardens at Vigil's Keep. I'm ok I there's an explanation about his return, but I wouldn't like an Anders that has the same situation for every type of DAA import.


No matter what character we bring in, if they had any epilogue text (no matter how far into the future that epilogue forecast) I'm positive that we won't treat them nearly as sacrosanct as some people on these forums will think we should. That's not, you'll note, the same as not dealing with them at all. Image IPB


It's not the problem of the epilogue, but how Anders (if is a companion) acts. I really like Anders in DAA, and if he returns, I'm happy with that. I only want some changes in the dialogue, based on how he acted in Aweakening. What I don't want is that he tells my Hawke how my Warden gave him to the templars, while I haven't done such a thing.
Thank you for the reply, Mr.GaiderImage IPB


that would be resolved if his cameo happened before he ended up in amaranthine


I'm talking about the possibility of Anders to return as a companion.

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hhh89 wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
I don't have any problem in the return of a companion of DAO as a companion in DA2, but in the case of Anders, I have some doubts, only because in some endings he remains with the Wardens at Vigil's Keep. I'm ok I there's an explanation about his return, but I wouldn't like an Anders that has the same situation for every type of DAA import.


No matter what character we bring in, if they had any epilogue text (no matter how far into the future that epilogue forecast) I'm positive that we won't treat them nearly as sacrosanct as some people on these forums will think we should. That's not, you'll note, the same as not dealing with them at all. Image IPB


It's not the problem of the epilogue, but how Anders (if is a companion) acts. I really like Anders in DAA, and if he returns, I'm happy with that. I only want some changes in the dialogue, based on how he acted in Aweakening. What I don't want is that he tells my Hawke how my Warden gave him to the templars, while I haven't done such a thing.
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that would be resolved if his cameo happened before he ended up in amaranthine


I'm talking about the possibility of Anders to return as a companion.


i find that unlikely, it could happen but to me he see more like cameo material, we shall see if he is or not a companion later on.

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We know (from an interview, I think) that next to several cameos, one party member from DA:O returns as a party member in DA2. And in the respective thread a dev clarified that they consider Awakening and DLC as parts of DA:O in that regard.



Dude looks like Anders. If Anders doesn't join Hawke's party I'll eat a broom.



Well, reportedly some dev said that not every party member is on that group shot and not everyone on that screenshot is a party member. Well, they like to be nitpicky and the screenshot naturally lacks Carver* while also having a surplus helmeted Templar in the back and we all know that covering party members' faces is a no-go in DA2.



*Considering Aveline is still in her odd garb it's also likely relatively early in the game, so I suppose about two potential party members we recruit later in the game may also be missing.

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hhh89 wrote...
It's not the problem of the epilogue, but how Anders (if is a companion) acts. I really like Anders in DAA, and if he returns, I'm happy with that. I only want some changes in the dialogue, based on how he acted in Aweakening. What I don't want is that he tells my Hawke how my Warden gave him to the templars, while I haven't done such a thing.


We're unlikely to ignore something that's a major branching point-- but all I'm saying is that "we're not ignoring it" and "we're treating it as sacrosanct" are somewhat different things, especially when it comes to the forums. Image IPB

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I hope it is not Anders. I have had enough of Anders. I do not care about learning anything more about him or having him around again, I thought he was developed enough in Awakening. In fact he could die in Awakening, not far in a future epilogue, but right there in the keep or presumably executed by the Templars (assuming he doesn't escape again).



So yeah, if he shows up I'll probably leave him on the bench or reject him completely. There are other mages I'd rather have in my team.

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You can see in this image, the guy next to Aveline looks somewhat like Anders.

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twincast wrote...

Dude looks like Anders. If Anders doesn't join Hawke's party I'll eat a broom.

Can we hold you to that?

:devil:

And if Anders does return... I think I'll just say no to him joining my party this time.

He was pretty much forced on you until you got Velanna if you wanted a mage in your party during Awakening.
Unless you were playing as a mage of course (I was not), in which case you could have ignored him altogether.

Modifié par BTCentral, 10 janvier 2011 - 04:53 .


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David Gaider wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
It's not the problem of the epilogue, but how Anders (if is a companion) acts. I really like Anders in DAA, and if he returns, I'm happy with that. I only want some changes in the dialogue, based on how he acted in Aweakening. What I don't want is that he tells my Hawke how my Warden gave him to the templars, while I haven't done such a thing.


We're unlikely to ignore something that's a major branching point-- but all I'm saying is that "we're not ignoring it" and "we're treating it as sacrosanct" are somewhat different things, especially when it comes to the forums. Image IPB


Thank you again, Mr. Gaider. All I want is that the thing we did in Origins aren't been ignored. If some minor epilogue lines are changed, I'm fine with this. As I already said, I like the idea of Anders' returning as a companion.

Modifié par hhh89, 10 janvier 2011 - 04:56 .


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BTCentral wrote...

twincast wrote...

Dude looks like Anders. If Anders doesn't join Hawke's party I'll eat a broom.

Can we hold you to that?

:devil:

And if Anders does return... I think I'll just say no to him joining my party this time.

He was pretty much forced on you until you got Velanna if you wanted a mage in your party during Awakening.
Unless you were playing as a mage of course (I was not), in which case you could have ignored him altogether.


Wasn't the same in Origins? If I want a mage I was forced to take Morrigan until I take Wynne. And if I want to side with the templars, I'm stuck with Morrigan no matter what.

edit: sorry for the double-post

Modifié par hhh89, 10 janvier 2011 - 04:58 .


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hhh89 wrote...

Wasn't the same in Origins? If I want a mage I was forced to take Morrigan until I take Wynne. And if I want to side with the templars, I'm stuck with Morrigan no matter what.

edit: sorry for the double-post

The difference is, I didn't hate strongly dislike Morrigan or Wynne as a character.

:P

Modifié par BTCentral, 10 janvier 2011 - 05:00 .


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BTCentral wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Wasn't the same in Origins? If I want a mage I was forced to take Morrigan until I take Wynne. And if I want to side with the templars, I'm stuck with Morrigan no matter what.

edit: sorry for the double-post

The difference is, I didn't hate strongly dislike Morrigan or Wynne as a character.

:P


Understood. I don't believe BioWare could make all the party member to be liked by the players. I don't dislike any companions in DAO and in DAA, though Velanna, Wynne and Zevran aren't my favourite characters. Anders was one of my favourite instead, so I'm ok with this (if it happens).

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BTCentral wrote...

twincast wrote...

Dude looks like Anders. If Anders doesn't join Hawke's party I'll eat a broom.

Can we hold you to that?
:devil:

We demand youtubing the process.

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I always thought he was that Orsino person. But I've just read on DA wiki he's an elf, so I'm probably wrong.

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Elfman wrote...

I always thought he was that Orsino person. But I've just read on DA wiki he's an elf, so I'm probably wrong.


We don't know that.

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Even with Anders still living with the Wardens, there's nothing in the way of he being with Hawke for a time and then going back to the Wardens. He might even be a Warden in the Free Marches.

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I'd like Anders to return, he made me laugh a lot:)

better him than this Merill- I didn't find nothing interesting in her, but there was a little chance to get to know her...so I guess why not - providing writers made her interesting.

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twincast wrote...

We know (from an interview, I think) that next to several cameos, one party member from DA:O returns as a party member in DA2. And in the respective thread a dev clarified that they consider Awakening and DLC as parts of DA:O in that regard.


That could have easily referred to Merril. She WAS in the party in the Dalish origin after all. She is a partymember from DA "origins" Image IPB

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Anders and Flemeth are the same person.

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David Gaider wrote...

Any character who was previously a party member that we bring back as a party member again will be because we thought there was more to explore with them.


... hmm, I seem to recall a dev comment quite some months ago that was in response to a poster's question that involved Anders and not really knowing much about him or his past. I think the dev mentioned something about us possibly finding out more about Anders and his past in a coming game. I could be wrong, though, so don't take my recollection as fact.

If this is indeed true and Anders is coming back, I will squeal like a pig, mew like a kitten, and run around the house hopping from one piece of furniture to the next like a puppy who is extremely happy to see their human after a trip to the mailbox. Image IPB I always felt there was so much more to explore with that snarky, blonde ponytailed, cat-lovin', manskirt wearin' freak of sexiness. And people wonder why he's one of my favourite characters aside from Nathaniel. Well, there you go! Image IPB


Tinxa wrote...

twincast wrote...

We know (from an interview, I think) that next to several cameos, one party member from DA:O returns as a party member in DA2. And in the respective thread a dev clarified that they consider Awakening and DLC as parts of DA:O in that regard.


That could have easily referred to Merril. She WAS in the party in the Dalish origin after all. She is a partymember from DA "origins" Image IPB


I've always been led to believe that the "returning companion" is a companion that was available to every origin; Merrill was only available for a few minutes during the Dalish origin. Image IPB

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hotlikemexico wrote...

It looks like Anders shows up in this video around 3:25. He's got that black shrug-thingy on his shoulders, so I'm assuming it is him (unless that's the new style in Thedas...).

Do you think that's him?
If it is, what do you think his role will be?

I'll be damned, there he is.

twincast wrote...
Dude looks like Anders. If Anders doesn't join Hawke's party I'll eat a broom.

What are you, a beaver?

Modifié par bobobo878, 10 janvier 2011 - 06:42 .