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[Miri1984]

I think Nathaniel will be there. For a bit. In what capacity I'm not sure. But considering Sebastian I doubt that Nathaniel will be a companion - it would seem really odd to have two such similar types as companions. NOT THAT I'M SAYING SEBASTIAN IS A NATHANIEL CLONE. By no means. I am certain they are completely different in many, many ways. But the base types (rogue/archer) are similar and as such wouldn't balance out the party particularly well, considering we've already got Varric and Sebastian and Isabela.

[pink_alora]

In the risk of sounding delusional I think Orsino is Anders instead of a mysterious male elf mage maybe they gave him that name when he was on the Siren's call..

Regardless I hope we do get to see Anders through a cameo or as a permanent companion..

[Todd23]

Malanek999 wrote... Could Anders be the son of Flemmeth and Maric?

If I was immortal, I'd have more decisions then who'd bear my child, I'd be considering whos child should bear my child's child. (spoiler)That promise was probably to have a child with the chaimber-maid, why do you think he gave him to Eamon, or even cheated on his queen, whom he loved, if it wasn't for Isolde suddenly coming into the picture Alistair would never have been a grey warden, what did she see in the old guy anyway, is it a coincidence she can only have a mage child?
ps: It was said that mages were sent from afar to the free marches, the circle could have decided that Anders was to much trouble and sent him their because they'd be better equipped to deal with him, or even maybe "deal" with him.

[Wittand25]

I just played the stone prisoner and was surprised how similar Matthias and the unknown human mage in the old group screenshot look, so I would not put too much into visual simularities.

Also the information we have for Varric leads me to believe that he has a similar character as Anders had so it would be reduntand from that point of view if he became a party member. From the story point of view a mage more loyal to the circles and the chantry, similar to Wynne, would make sense considering we already have two apostates (one of the Hawke siblings and Merrill) in the party rooster.

Modifié par Wittand25, 13 janvier 2011 - 10:33 .

[berelinde]

Wittand25 wrote...

... Also the information we have for Varric leads me to believe that he has a similar character as Anders had so it would be reduntand from that point of view if he became a party member. From the story point of view a mage more loyal to the circles and the chantry, similar to Wynne, would make sense considering we already have two apostates (one of the Hawke siblings and Merrill) in the party rooster.

Similar personality? Not really. Yes, both Varric and Anders have a sense of humor, but from what I can see, that's where it ends. Varric's humor seems to lie in hyperbole and swagger while Anders' was more self-effacing and ironic.  Plus, despite how much Varric has been talked about, we have seen very little of him. His personality may differ significantly from the tiny snapshot we've been shown. How many times have you watched a movie only to find that it was nothing at all like the trailer?

Awakenings had two apostate mages, too, Anders and Velanna. It was none the worse for it. Since DA2 seems to be focusing on the conflict between mages and the Chantry, it's probable that apostate mages will be an even bigger part of it than they were in Awakenings.

We have seen no assurances that Bethany or Carver will ever be permanent companions. Mhairi got her very own trailer, too, and we all know what happened to her. Mind, it does look like Bethany or Carver will be around for a while, even if they decide to stay with mom in Kirkwall instead of adventuring with Hawke. You may have noticed that neither Bethany nor Carver have their own companion pages. Even Mhairi had one of them.

Lastly, we don't know that we'll only have six companions. If you're going to count Hawke's siblings, and I wouldn't, my party would have three warriors, not three mages. Since I play mages myself, I'll get Carver rather than Bethany. Which suits me fine.

Unless chickens have very strange dietary habits, I would be surprised to find any apostates at all in a rooster. Or Circle mages, for that matter. (ducks)

Since the moment that screen shot was revealed, I have been fighting a losing battle. I would be crushed if I spent all this time joyously expecting it to be Anders only to find that it wasn't, so I have been telling myself over and over that it can't be him, that it's someone else who looks like him, or not a party member at all. I've had very little success. The worst part is that I suspect that we will not find out the name of the returning companion until DA2 is actually released. Remember when we all found out that Oghren was returning for Awakenings? Everyone was quite disappointed to find that it wasn't Morrigan/Leliana/Zevran/Sten/Wynne/etc. And even more disappointed to find that it was Oghren. Granted, Anders is probably more popular than Oghren, but if he is the returning companion, there will probably be people who think it the worst thing in the history of CRPG. I would not be one of them.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Wittand25 wrote...

Also the information we have for Varric leads me to believe that he has a similar character as Anders had so it would be reduntand from that point of view if he became a party member. From the story point of view a mage more loyal to the circles and the chantry, similar to Wynne, would make sense considering we already have two apostates (one of the Hawke siblings and Merrill) in the party rooster.

1) I don't know how a freedom-loving Grey Warden Mage with a non-commital, self-perserving attitude is anything like Varric, 2) I don't think having another so-called snarky character is going to throw off the balance, especially when you consider that Aveline and Fenris seem to be on the serious side (and given the fact that Merrill seemed like a no-nonsense kind of character back in DA:O), 3) Anders in a couple of endings makes speeches at the Circle and has used his status as a Grey Warden as a Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card if you will, so his status as an Apostate could be a moot point by now, 4) Dalish are out of the jurisdiction of the Chantry and are left to practice as they will, so Merrill is not an apostate, but I digress.  A Templar would probably still go berserk seeing one.

If it isn't Anders, I really hope it's someone like him.  I wanna hear how he escaped the tower all those times!

[Rinji the Bearded]

berelinde wrote...

Since the moment that screen shot was revealed, I have been fighting a losing battle. I would be crushed if I spent all this time joyously expecting it to be Anders only to find that it wasn't, so I have been telling myself over and over that it can't be him, that it's someone else who looks like him, or not a party member at all. I've had very little success. The worst part is that I suspect that we will not find out the name of the returning companion until DA2 is actually released. Remember when we all found out that Oghren was returning for Awakenings? Everyone was quite disappointed to find that it wasn't Morrigan/Leliana/Zevran/Sten/Wynne/etc. And even more disappointed to find that it was Oghren. Granted, Anders is probably more popular than Oghren, but if he is the returning companion, there will probably be people who think it the worst thing in the history of CRPG. I would not be one of them.

Exactly how I feel at this point.  But I am excitied at the prospect of a male mage (that isn't in a short game expansion) at any rate.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 13 janvier 2011 - 12:44 .

[Miss Greyjoy]

Miri1984 wrote...

I think Nathaniel will be there. For a bit. In what capacity I'm not sure. But considering Sebastian I doubt that Nathaniel will be a companion - it would seem really odd to have two such similar types as companions. NOT THAT I'M SAYING SEBASTIAN IS A NATHANIEL CLONE. By no means. I am certain they are completely different in many, many ways. But the base types (rogue/archer) are similar and as such wouldn't balance out the party particularly well, considering we've already got Varric and Sebastian and Isabela.

I was thinking about this, too. I guess the story is the wild card here. We know at some point that Varric gets captured and questioned. But at what point? If he gets hurt/captured/incapacitated during some point in the story, the player will be down a ranged attacker. Nathaniel would make sense here, and for those that hold a grudge against the guy (you KNOW who you are, people!) there is the DLC character. So maybe the characters won't be as redundant as it seems at first glance.

I am really hoping for Anders/Nate- I think the Awakening companions were a swell lot, aside from Velanna.

[Wittand25]

berelinde wrote...
Lastly, we don't know that we'll only have six companions. If you're going to count Hawke's siblings, and I wouldn't, my party would have three warriors, not three mages. Since I play mages myself, I'll get Carver rather than Bethany. Which suits me fine.

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Your Hawke or Bethany (apostate); Merrill (apostate, because every mage not part of a circle is an apostate) and HMG. That is three and not two. Every party always has three mages. Only the number of rouges and warriors can vary depending on Hawke´s class.

Regarding if the surviving sibling stays. I think it is very likely because there are screenshots of Carver fighting in a full armor and he can only get that later in game.

Modifié par Wittand25, 13 janvier 2011 - 03:04 .

[JJDrakken]

I would like to see Anders & Sigrun there. Those where my favorite 2 in Awakening, I would love to see Anders & Alistair in a witty conversation with possibly Zev too! could you imagine the amount of schmarmy sarcastic banter all 3 could have with each other at once, your head may explode!





JJ

[Arthur Cousland]

Anders, Nathaniel and Sigrun were not only my favorite Awakening party members, but I liked them more than most of the Origins cast as well. I wouldn't mind seeing a return of Anders or the other two mentioned if that happens.



Is there info on Orsino on the wiki? I'll have to check. My xbox 360 avatar is wearing his clothes/staff, but I haven't seen any info on him here or on the official site.

[berelinde]

Wittand25 wrote...

berelinde wrote...
Lastly, we don't know that we'll only have six companions. If you're going to count Hawke's siblings, and I wouldn't, my party would have three warriors, not three mages. Since I play mages myself, I'll get Carver rather than Bethany. Which suits me fine.

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Your Hawke or Bethany (apostate); Merrill (apostate, because every mage not part of a circle is an apostate) and HMG. That is three and not two. Every party always has three mages. Only the number of rouges and warriors can vary depending on Hawke´s class.

Regarding if the surviving sibling stays. I think it is very likely because there are screenshots of Carver fighting in a full armor and he can only get that later in game.

I am not counting Hawke. Unless someone has a serious identity issue, Hawke can be neither recruited nor dismissed. Who is HMG, anyway?

Carver in full armor just means that he is in full armor. It doesn't mean that he has been in the party the entire time and will continue to be available throughout the game. Since the game spans such a chronologically long interval, it's entirely possible that some companions may be available at some times, but not at others. So maybe he helps you flee Lothering, moves in with mom for a few years, and then rejoins you for the big boss fight at the end. Or he might be a mandatory companion through the entire game, trailing your every step and trying to seduce your lover. Who knows?

As for Merrill, Pffft. Given the choice, she will not be recruited. I didn't like her during the Dalish Origin and I don't like what I've seen of her now. But that's why you need more than one NPC per class. Not everyone likes the same things. Having to endure Oghren for all of Awakenings because Justice was the only other warrior was not fun.

If it isn't Anders (and I'm really hoping that it is), I would really like a male mage in the party. Between Morrigan, Wynne, and Velanna, we've had enough female mages to last a while.

[Miri1984]

I'm assuming HMG is Human Mage Guy.

[SgtElias]

berelinde wrote...

If it isn't Anders (and I'm really hoping that it is), I would really like a male mage in the party. Between Morrigan, Wynne, and Velanna, we've had enough female mages to last a while.

This thought had occured to me, as well. Not that I think that the writers would sit down and say to themselves, "Alright, we've had three women so the mage needs to be male," necessarilly. But it's probably at least kept in mind (even if it's decided to be inconsequential later).

Gods, I hope it's Anders.

[Wittand25]

berelinde wrote...

Wittand25 wrote...

berelinde wrote...
Lastly, we don't know that we'll only have six companions. If you're going to count Hawke's siblings, and I wouldn't, my party would have three warriors, not three mages. Since I play mages myself, I'll get Carver rather than Bethany. Which suits me fine.

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Your Hawke or Bethany (apostate); Merrill (apostate, because every mage not part of a circle is an apostate) and HMG. That is three and not two. Every party always has three mages. Only the number of rouges and warriors can vary depending on Hawke´s class.

Regarding if the surviving sibling stays. I think it is very likely because there are screenshots of Carver fighting in a full armor and he can only get that later in game.

I am not counting Hawke. Unless someone has a serious identity issue, Hawke can be neither recruited nor dismissed. Who is HMG, anyway?

Carver in full armor just means that he is in full armor. It doesn't mean that he has been in the party the entire time and will continue to be available throughout the game. Since the game spans such a chronologically long interval, it's entirely possible that some companions may be available at some times, but not at others. So maybe he helps you flee Lothering, moves in with mom for a few years, and then rejoins you for the big boss fight at the end. Or he might be a mandatory companion through the entire game, trailing your every step and trying to seduce your lover. Who knows?

As for Merrill, Pffft. Given the choice, she will not be recruited. I didn't like her during the Dalish Origin and I don't like what I've seen of her now. But that's why you need more than one NPC per class. Not everyone likes the same things. Having to endure Oghren for all of Awakenings because Justice was the only other warrior was not fun.

If it isn't Anders (and I'm really hoping that it is), I would really like a male mage in the party. Between Morrigan, Wynne, and Velanna, we've had enough female mages to last a while.

HMG is short for Human Mage Guy as another poster already mentioned. I do not use "Anders" so that I do not rise my own as well as the expectations of others.
Hawke is a member of the party so he counts and non mage Hawkes seem to get Bethany instead of Carver so you always have three mages to choose from. Reviews spoilered parts from Carver´s companion mission, he is in the prologue as well as in chaper one ( for mage Hawke) and has a minimum of two outfits so it is pretty certain that he will be a companion for the whole game.

Without DLC you have two of each class. The six companions shown in the hexagon in the latest trailer are Aveline,Fenris (two warriors), Varric, Isabella (both rogues) Merrill and HMG(two mages).
In addition we know of Sebastian (DLC another rogue), and the two surviving Hake siblings PC and either Carver or Bethany.
So if you play Warrior or mage you have three of each class to choose from (including Hawke).

[kyuubifred]

I'm curious as to who wrote mister human mage guy. Unless I've missed someone, so far the only companion by Ser Gaider has been Fenris, whereas he wrote Alistair, Morrigan, and... Zevran, I think, in Origins. Seeing as he's the lead writer, it feels like there ought to be another companion by him...and I think he wrote Anders, right? *crosses fingers*

[Miri1984]

Maybe Gaider is sitting back in his throne with his white cat and thin cigarette, directing events like the evil genius he is rather than actually writing the characters .

[kyuubifred]

Miri1984 wrote...

Maybe Gaider is sitting back in his throne with his white cat and thin cigarette, directing events like the evil genius he is rather than actually writing the characters .

*sigh* very likely. maybe we didn't cry enough to sustain him through another character. D:

[s0meguy6665]

My hawke looks forward to gutting that slimeball anders

Modifié par s0meguy6665, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:07 .

[LupusYondergirl]

Miri1984 wrote...

Maybe Gaider is sitting back in his throne with his white cat and thin cigarette, directing events like the evil genius he is rather than actually writing the characters .

I think that may actually make him the very first Canadian supervillian. 

(ignoring *ahem* other comments, but I have to ask what is the deal with that icon and jerks?  It's like you see it and just know idiocy is on the way...)

[Miri1984]

@Lupus You see, ALL Canadians are supervillains. They just hide it well.



(and I know what you mean!)

[berelinde]

kyuubifred wrote...

I'm curious as to who wrote mister human mage guy. Unless I've missed someone, so far the only companion by Ser Gaider has been Fenris, whereas he wrote Alistair, Morrigan, and... Zevran, I think, in Origins. Seeing as he's the lead writer, it feels like there ought to be another companion by him...and I think he wrote Anders, right? *crosses fingers*

If writers are lacrimovores, they're getting a feast, at least from me. For all we know, Mr Gaider is applying his talents to the game world as a whole instead of focusing on a single character or two, but I can't help but.... no I can help but, no matter how hard it is. We have had no promises. Damn it. Grrr,

My, isn't that pathetic?

[EnforcerGREG]

If Anders is the final companion do you think it's from him that we'll get the most information on our wardens?(those who did the ritual and imported into Awakening)

Will he mention the fact that the warden disapeered through the eluvian or what those wardens who didn't but found the dalish book and what they did after that?

Depending on Aproval will he speak of the warden fondily if at all?

Modifié par EnforcerGREG, 14 janvier 2011 - 04:25 .

[maselphie]

I would not appreciate Anders as the final companion. It's very gimmicky, like Sebastian, who is a CLEAR apology to Nathaniel fangirls. He's a completely different guy, but the exact same premise. That's either uncreative, or a direct nod to the previously broody revenge-seeking archer. So I hope the second.



As for Anders, no please! Like him, I really do, but in an expansion pack that needed someone that reminded me why I played the original, not in my brand new game, new MC, new story. I like Alistair, but I don't want Alistair romances from now on. He was awesome because he was unique. And we've all felt that Alistair vibe coming from Anders.



That said, as much as "omg thaz Anderz" popped into my mind when I saw the male mage's brief appearance in videos, on second look, it doesn't look that much like him. It's pretty vague at this point. Could be just another nod to Anders, like Sebasty was to Nate. And I hope he's the healer so he can be in my party the whole time. *awesome face*

[maselphie]

douuble poost

Modifié par maselphie, 14 janvier 2011 - 04:52 .