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[bdm13]

I have logged many, many hours on ME2, although I picked up the game having never started ME1. I am pretty interested in the lore and story, and have read plenty enough to understand the ME universe and really enjoy it. However I recently decided I wanted to go back and try and play ME1 since I have grown to love the second game so much.

I am currently a level 8 Vanguard (first playthrough so no singularity ...) and just got off the citadel and onto feros. However I am having a hard time enjoying ME1 after playing the combat in ME2. ME1 just feels like pistols, pistols, and powers which are cast slowly (constant pausing) and not incredible exciting. Does anyone have any advice on builds or general gameplay tips to get into ME1 more (after playing ME2 for so long).

I really want to like it! but so far just cant get past the plodding gameplay.

I am up for changing my class if another is more fun or effective (infiltrator? soldier?).

[Teknor]

Take infiltrator get commando specialization max pistols early on, with post game bonuses you can play full marksman and immunity. You will need warp to soften immunity in insanity though.

Modifié par Teknor, 10 janvier 2011 - 03:59 .

[Sailears]

I can't empathise, though I imagine it must be difficult for anyone in that situation.

I agree with commando infiltrator, and you've got decryption and electronics for all the crates etc... definitely most versatile and straightforward thing to play.

Play on veteran unless you like tedious time wasting.

[Bozorgmehr]

If you've played ME2, then yeah, ME1 combat kinda sucks. ME1 does have a superior story though you probably know the main plot already. I recommend not to play on Insanity which is very boring - Veteran/Hardcore is a lot more fun. You've picked one of the two most powerful classes (Vanguard and Infiltrator). Pistols are the most powerful weapons in ME1, use em (they're particularly good early game). Barrier is great too - get it asap.

ME1 is hardest when you leave the Citadel for the first time, at level ~20 your powers are getting powerful, a spec missions unlocks (Rogue VI on Luna) and don't forget to save all your money - you want to get a million asap coz that will unlock Spectre gear weaponry, the most powerful guns in ME1. From that point onwards, ME1 will be very easy - just try to enjoy the story.

You can find some (one-playthrough) builds here : social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/261/index/5628294

[FlintlockJazz]

It does get better as you go on. My advice is to stick it out with the character you have now as restarting means having to go through it all over again and if you're having trouble getting motivated that might be the worst thing to do. Once you get enough skills for them to make a difference the combat gets better and the story gets better as you go along.

[Bad King]

Vanguard is a fun build. It has a powerful variety of talents (which synergise with each other) but without being too overpowered like Soldier or Vanguard (which have Immunity which spoils the game as it makes it too easy). Adept and Sentinel are fun, but are best once you unlock bonus weapon talents (which are unlocked during playthroughs if you practice a specific skill enough).



I consider Engineer to be the weakest class tbh, you lack decent protection, have weaker CC than Biotics and do minimal damage.

[Gnoster]

I am in the exact same situation; was missing a good game so I bought ME2. After finishing what turned out to be an awesome game I decided to buy ME1 to get the whole story and a playthrough I could import through the entire trilogy. I was like you immediately turned of by the combat (still am, though I am getting a bit better).

I am playing as a soldier, because I want a soldier in ME2 playthrough and further on to ME3, and I am unsure whather or not I can change careers between games. I am playing on normal mode because the playthrough is mostly about getting the story and a save game to import to the newer games.

[FlintlockJazz]

Gnoster wrote...
I am playing as a soldier, because I want a soldier in ME2 playthrough and further on to ME3, and I am unsure whather or not I can change careers between games. I am playing on normal mode because the playthrough is mostly about getting the story and a save game to import to the newer games.

Don't worry, you can change careers when importing, I've used the same ME1 playthrough for three or four different class playthroughs in ME2.  I've got more than one ME1 playthrough but that's more for having different choices than class.  Hell, I've played through ME1 with a romance, then reloaded to an earlier point and played through with the same character again for a no-romance playthrough, since I leave a certain choice to as late as possible.

Modifié par FlintlockJazz, 10 janvier 2011 - 05:01 .

[Elyvern]

Yes, you can change careers between each game.

I'm replaying ME1 now myself after 5 playthroughs of ME2 and oh god, the gameplay is such a clunky piece of crap to get through. No matter, I have no qualms about putting it on casual so I can mow down everything to get another import. Heh.

[lazuli]

Unless you're going for achievements, drop it down to casual and coast through.

[jwalker]

Yeah, I can understand. ME1 combat system is meh....

But I do enjoy the game. And I still play it. Currently making an Infiltrator run. The story is a lot better than in ME2's

Never bothered with Insanity, well only for a few hours. It's just tedious and not rewarding. My last run there was on Hardcore, but I think I'll change it to Veteran.

Also, I like to RP my sheps, so a download from the web doesn't cut it.

[Kronner]

I'd recommend playing on low difficulty, like Veteran, so you don't have to have to worry about using best weapons (Pistols), and Immunity spam fest by all enemies.

Modifié par Kronner, 10 janvier 2011 - 05:38 .

[ryoldschool]

I did just what OP did - really enjoyed me2 for months then got me1. Played on casual as a soldier. Combat is nothing compared to me2 but the story was worth doing.

[HappyHappyJoyJoy]

I just finished ME1 again. I played as a Vanguard but stuck with pistols - they are effective and you can get Marksman to be effective. Definitely use your biotics more, and take advantage of the multiple biotic and tech powers - not just singularity which you'll get when Liara is with you, but damping, etc. Tali and Wrex make a pretty balanced squad as a Vanguard.

IMHO - I'd take off from Feros (you can do this after the initial encounter with Zhu's Hope) and go to Therum. Liara can be a powerhouse.

Infiltrator is fun as well, that was my last playthrough. It does let you get your experience up since you can snipe at everything from long distances.

In general, though, you have to go through the combat to get to the story. It is worth it, though.

I would advise looking at the build guidelines since you cannot reallocate points like in ME2. This goes for your squaddies as well.

[BurnedToast]

The best tip I have for ME1 is this: ignore the collection missions (especially the damn minerals one).



Driving that damn bouncy rubber ball mako around nearly killed the game for me, my replay where I just skipped it as much as possible was a hundred times more enjoyable. There's no real reason to scour every map collecting things, since you won't need the credits and the exp is not too significant. Pretty sure none of it carries over into ME2 either, if you plan on importing and replaying that again.



(unless you like driving the mako but then you are bad and should feel bad)



As for the combat... I dunno what to say, I played as infiltrator, vanguard, and adept and I never found it too slow paced or unenjoyable (though of course the balance was horrible and you become an unstoppable god once you get a few good powers). Vanguard in particular I had a lot of fun with, I went with shotgun and it was a good balance of powers and weaponry for the downtime on the powers.

[FlintlockJazz]

BurnedToast wrote...

(unless you like driving the mako but then you are bad and should feel bad)

I love driving the mako and think it is one of the better aspects of ME1, and I don't feel bad...

[HappyHappyJoyJoy]

On the ideal squad:  you generally want something balanced, so equal biotics/tech/combat.

For Vanguard, you've got a few options:
* Tali and Wrex.  Tali is very good at tech, she's the only NPC with AI Hacking.  Wrex is a monster in combat.  Only disadvantage is you've only got one techie which means you can't have multiple NPCs casting Sabotage/Overload, and Tali will need points in First Aid.  If you do this, I'd have Wrex focus on assault rifles rather than shotguns, and have Tali focus on pistols, though both should be decent at shotguns.
* Kaidan and Garrus.  Advantage is double tech which can be useful, especially for fighting geth but Sabotage is useful against any enemy.  Garrus has sniper rifles.  Kaidan has Neural Shockwave which is really handy, especially with Krogan.  Disadvantage is Kaidan is poor with weapons, and Garrus is a bit squishy.  Make sure one gets First Aid (probably Kaidan so you can unlock Medicine/Neural Shockwave.) 

Make sure to always have a tech to open up crates and get goodies, as you can find better weapons/armor, and sell the rest (or convert to omnigel.)  Go back to the Citidel and head to the med clinic, eventually you can help out the doctor.  One of your rewards is that she'll pay extra when you sell your excess loot - this is REALLY useful, you want to hit Rich (over 1M credits in the bank) so you can buy Spectre weapons, the best in the game.

If you plan on multiple playthroughs, I'd make sure you have the same squad during all missions so you can get NPC Achievements.  If you are just on Feros, you can start now and as long as you do all the side missions (even fetch quests) with that squad, you should be OK.  You generally get improved recharge times for powers, extra healing (in case of Wrex), etc.  The Wiki has more info.

[implodinggoat]

The last time I played Mass Effect 1 was to make a new character to import to ME2.



I turned the combat difficulty all the way down and breezed through the game while playing it almost entirely for it's excellent story.



If you're playing ME1 for the enjoyment of the story then ME1 still holds up very well; but if you're just playing it for the gameplay it pales in comparison to ME2.

[Gnoster]

A quick question since I am in the process of my first ME1 playthrough (purely for the story and to have a character to import throughout the series): Does the sidemissions (visiting all planets, mining etc.) mean anything / have any known consequence? Ofcourse Shepard will finish ME1 at a higher level if I complete all, but as I understand it, you start ME2 at level 1 anyway.

[PrinceLionheart]

Gnoster wrote...

A quick question since I am in the process of my first ME1 playthrough (purely for the story and to have a character to import throughout the series): Does the sidemissions (visiting all planets, mining etc.) mean anything / have any known consequence? Ofcourse Shepard will finish ME1 at a higher level if I complete all, but as I understand it, you start ME2 at level 1 anyway.

Scanning minerals are absolutely meaningless unless you're doing it for the EXP. Majority of side missions the Side missions only pop up as News Announcements or emails. The only exceptions are, IIRC are Conrad Verner, Helena Blake, and Nassana Dantius. 

All the others (like Shiala) you'll encounter by doing the main story missions.

[lazuli]

Gnoster wrote...

A quick question since I am in the process of my first ME1 playthrough (purely for the story and to have a character to import throughout the series): Does the sidemissions (visiting all planets, mining etc.) mean anything / have any known consequence? Ofcourse Shepard will finish ME1 at a higher level if I complete all, but as I understand it, you start ME2 at level 1 anyway.

Your starting level in ME2 will be higher if you're a higher level at the end of ME1.  If the Shepard you import is level 60, you will start ME2 at level 5.

Some side missions will cause minor NPC's to appear in ME2, like Helena Blake or Conrad Verner. 

Check out the wiki.

[Sparrow44]

Funnily enough playing a ME2 Shotgun Infiltrator inspired to play one in ME1 and have been having a blast with it so far pretty much playing as the tech version Vanguard.

Not really had any trouble adjusting with the combat as I'm playing both games at the same time while still trying to figure out my next ME1 playthrough.

[msantos]

Elyvern wrote...

I'm replaying ME1 now myself after 5 playthroughs of ME2 and oh god, the gameplay is such a clunky piece of crap to get through. No matter, I have no qualms about putting it on casual so I can mow down everything to get another import. Heh.

I completely agree.

It may be harder for someone to try ME1 after experiencing ME2.  In fact, when I decided to go back to ME1 after a few runs in ME2 (Adept+Insanity) I also found the ME1 combat sequences to be a bit on the less polished side of things - even though ME1 seemed perfectly fine when I first tried it a couple of years ago.  

And don't even get me started on the vehicle thing either...  on this note despite not liking ME2 hammerhead that much, it still is heads and shoulders above the ME1 experience I had.

[Gnoster]

Does it make any sense to do a speed playthrough ignoring any and all side missions and go straight for the end, before starting the full playthrough one wants to import to ME2 and later to ME3?

I thinking about the level of effect on Charm/Intimidate and Paragon/Renegade values. A level 60 character would ofcourse be preferable to import to ME2, but I am not sure I can bother playing ME1 three times in order to get a single level 60 character (3 playthroughs are required as far as I know from posts on these forums).