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[Praetor Knight]

Gnoster wrote...

I thinking about the level of effect on Charm/Intimidate and Paragon/Renegade values. A level 60 character would ofcourse be preferable to import to ME2, but I am not sure I can bother playing ME1 three times in order to get a single level 60 character (3 playthroughs are required as far as I know from posts on these forums).

The Persuasion Bars are independent of imported character level. The difference is the other bonuses and starting level for Shep. Here's the wiki: http://masseffect.wi...racter_Transfer

Two playthroughs are also possible. Once I got to level 58, from 1 to 58, but that was with the three % exp giving achievements and its not that fun or necessary to do to get a level 60 for ME2. I took out all of the thresher maws (kills on foot), and tried to get as much exp from as many kills as possible. (I'm glad ME2 got rid of that game mechanic). But getting that higher level is not necessary for ME2, I did it to see if it could be done.

I recommend checking out this thread by Simbacca, if you have not seen it yet, for builds for a single playthrough:
http://social.biowar...1/index/5628294

[AlanC9]

I'm not sure it's worth worrying about getting a level 60 ME1 character for import purposes. If you've already completed ME2 you already will start with plenty of credits and minerals. All that will happen is that you'll start at level 5 rather than level 2 or 3.

[Gnoster]

Ye, that is a good thread, which I am somewhat building my soldier based on.

Only bonus which really matters to me with an import to ME2 is the paragon and renegade bonus, so seems to me that I wont get anything out of doing 1-2 fast games for the extra level. Money and ressources are plentiful enough in ME2 especially when I already have the completed achievement and get those bonuses as well.

My main concern for creating the storyline I wish is figuring out whether I've handled the LI issues correctly in order to avoid any LI in ME1. I've been reading this thread: http://social.biowar...4/index/2970780, and my conversations with Ashley so far doesn't exactly follow any of the directions mentioned (meaning: she doesn't call my either commander or skipper, but constantly uses the phrase Sir instead). Remains to be seen, otherwise I'll have to kill her off or reload an earlier game.

Modifié par Gnoster, 13 janvier 2011 - 04:57 .

[The Spamming Troll]

i dont think youd have a LI, unless you bang them durring the game. but then again i think i banged chakwas after we got drunk together on my last playthrough, so maybe chakwas is my LI. or i just got raped.

[Punjabi_Hitman]

You can bang chakwas?

[weedlink10]

i don't know about you guys but i love ME1, i do only play with level 60, with level 60's you don't even need cover, and if you max out your weapons there work like a charm, but yeah started the game at level 1 sucks, i was even playing yesterday with my 50 infiltrator on insanity and its a cake walk, i really think if they go back and redo ME1 and fix aiming, the cover system and maybe the mako that game would be magic.

[Ahglock]

I can enjoy ME1 after ME2 and I have, though only on easier difficulties. It just takes too damn long to kill people on hardcore or insanity. Yeah, I think the combat gameplay is worse, but the story is much better. I can enjoy it for that, though I have bigger gaps between replays because I can enjoy repeats of action more easily than repeats of the same story.,

[tonnactus]

bdm13 wrote...

I have logged many, many hours on ME2, although I picked up the game having never started ME1. I am pretty interested in the lore and story, and have read plenty enough to understand the ME universe and really enjoy it. However I recently decided I wanted to go back and try and play ME1 since I have grown to love the second game so much.

I am currently a level 8 Vanguard (first playthrough so no singularity ...) and just got off the citadel and onto feros. However I am having a hard time enjoying ME1 after playing the combat in ME2. ME1 just feels like pistols, pistols, and powers which are cast slowly (constant pausing) and not incredible exciting. Does anyone have any advice on builds or general gameplay tips to get into ME1 more (after playing ME2 for so long).

I really want to like it! but so far just cant get past the plodding gameplay.

I am up for changing my class if another is more fun or effective (infiltrator? soldier?).

A little patience.
When you get to the point to lift geth armatures and colossi,the game would become be really great for biotic classes.

[Arijharn]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Gnoster wrote...

A quick question since I am in the process of my first ME1 playthrough (purely for the story and to have a character to import throughout the series): Does the sidemissions (visiting all planets, mining etc.) mean anything / have any known consequence? Ofcourse Shepard will finish ME1 at a higher level if I complete all, but as I understand it, you start ME2 at level 1 anyway.

Scanning minerals are absolutely meaningless unless you're doing it for the EXP. Majority of side missions the Side missions only pop up as News Announcements or emails. The only exceptions are, IIRC are Conrad Verner, Helena Blake, and Nassana Dantius. 

All the others (like Shiala) you'll encounter by doing the main story missions.

I don't think this is quite true, I'm pretty sure that if you do that minerals game you'll start off with more minerals... or maybe the only lvl60 I have is the one who did all those minerals?

[Praetor Knight]

Arijharn wrote...

I'm pretty sure that if you do that minerals game you'll start off with more minerals... or maybe the only lvl60 I have is the one who did all those minerals?

The ME mineral assignment does not directly impact ME2, Shep just gets more exp.

There is an ME2 Completion bonus, Rich achievement and the character level that grants more minerals for ME2.



Here are a few links you can check out:
http://masseffect.wi...i/Upgrade_Guide
http://masseffect.wi...racter_Transfer

[keboo]

Mako parts are the most boring thing in the ME1 for me. And it's kinda easy once you get high enough level - just point in direction your enemies are and they die.

[Gnoster]

Having done as many side missions as possible before starting the first world mission (on Noveria atm.) I have to say, that lowering the difficulty to casual and just play the game for the story in order to get a full story throughout the trilogy is quite nice. In this case the ME1 combat doesn't really affect my enjoying of the game anymore.

[TheRealIncarnal]

I find myself in exactly the opposite position. I lost my old ME saves, so I've been replaying through ME and now I find myself having a hard time going back to ME2. I have so many more combat options in ME, I don't have to scavenge for ammunition, there is a wide variety of weapons, armors, and modifications to adapt my squad, and my squad members can hold their own in combat! Then there's the fact that I don't have to do any planet scanning, there are more interesting planets for me to see, and on the PC the Mako is very enjoyable to use (it's not on the 360). The Story in ME2 is really the only thing that draws me back, but I'm confident that they'll fix the gameplay in ME3.

[Teknor]

TheRealIncarnal wrote...

 but I'm confident that they'll fix the gameplay in ME3.

It was fixed in ME2. 

[TheRealIncarnal]

No, it really wasn't.

[Gnoster]

I have to say, that I much prefer the gameplay in ME2 over ME1. So far ME1 seems like an eternity of driving a crap car over rocky mountaoins for hours on end onyl to end of at the exact same building structure or mine structure as I have been in 10+ times before. No originality at all. This is honestly the worst part of ME1 for me, the combat I can easily handle over time and the story is amazing, but driving that Macko car and having to wade through the same enemies inside the same buildings over and over again gets old really fast.

[JG The Gamer]

I played ME1 on Insanity once just to say I did it. Nothing is more frustrating than unloading more than 10 shotgun blasts into an enemy with Immunity and will not die. I play my first run on Veteran (to keep myself on my toes, yet not too difficult) and make it to LV58. Then again on Casual to get to LV60 by the time the game's done. I still enjoy it, just very time consuming.

[bc525]

Regarding the OP, I can relate completely. I enjoyed ME2 so much that I went back for ME1 to start a fresh Shepard and get the full experience. My ME1 class was Vanguard.



+ Stay with the Vanguard class. It's a versatile class, very fun.



+ Heat sink (and later on, frictionless materials) are absolute musts for your shotgun's rate of fire. Eventually my ME1 Shepard was deadly with the shotgun and it was always the weapon of choice for me.



+ My A-team was Garrus and Tali. Later in the game, Tali became a wrecking ball in combat, and Garrus and I basically were along as fire support. I handled the CQB stuff with my trusty shotgun, and Garrus was doing the ranged hits. Tali just sort of hung back and rained tech death upon everything. That team pretty much mowed through everything, plus I remeber that Garrus and Tali had good medical skills as well which boosted medigel effectiveness.



As others have said, the gameplay in ME2 was clearly better, but I found ME1 to be a much more intriguing (and rewarding) story. Oh,and the Mako was just pure fun, the sheer gravity-defying positions I could that vehicle into were awesome. Hang in there with ME1, it's definitely worth it.

[Intax]

I was in the same position as the op was. Started with ME2 then picked up ME1 and had a hard time getting into the combat. All I can tell you is that its definitely worth it to play through at least once. So much stuff thats a little fuzzy in ME2 becomes completly clear after playing ME1 (just wait for the big Vermire/Ilos conversations). Add to that, ME2 pretty much becomes a new game with your own import.

[bdm13]

Just a quick update:



I played through ME1 completely on veteran, making it to around level 50 with my Vanguard.



Up until Virmire the game was a total bore because of the horrendous gameplay, and then once I started the assault on Virmire, ME1 suddenly become one of if not the best games I have ever played. The final missions were unbelievable. I would go as far as to say that the return to the citadel while it was under attack was one of the most memorable moments for me in movies, games, or other electronic entertainment. When Shepard tells his squad to suit up and they go outside in the zero g Citadel area, it was absolutely incredible.



From Virmire on gave me a much better appreciation for ME2 after understanding the epicness of ME1's ending.

[lazuli]

bdm13 wrote...

Just a quick update:

I played through ME1 completely on veteran, making it to around level 50 with my Vanguard.

Up until Virmire the game was a total bore because of the horrendous gameplay, and then once I started the assault on Virmire, ME1 suddenly become one of if not the best games I have ever played. The final missions were unbelievable. I would go as far as to say that the return to the citadel while it was under attack was one of the most memorable moments for me in movies, games, or other electronic entertainment. When Shepard tells his squad to suit up and they go outside in the zero g Citadel area, it was absolutely incredible.

From Virmire on gave me a much better appreciation for ME2 after understanding the epicness of ME1's ending.

If ME1 does one thing right, it's creating a suitably high-stakes end game scenario.  By then, you're basically invincible in combat anyway, so you can just blast away and enjoy the scenery.

[padaE]

I had this same problem. After I played ME2, ME1 felt completely outdated. I just couldn't play it anymore, and that was sad cause I loved the first one.

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My solution for that was to play it on casual. It just made the combat fun, it was just me walking and shooting, killing everything with no effort, doing this I could play the game enough to have the finals saves I will ultimately bring to ME3.

[Kasper Finknottle]

Not sure if it has been said before, but the sniping in ME1 is much better - planet side you actually have the distance to enjoy it rather than have things immediately in your face.



Plus, you can switch to explosive ammo and have a rocket launcher.

[renegadeinterrupt]

I also started ME1 after playing a lot of ME2 at a friends. I would also recommend just flying through on casual. I went vanguard, maxed out the shotty stat and blasted away. I love the story, it's much better than ME2s overall story. ME2 just has better characters. I have replayed ME1 3 times now all for story reasons. As for all those long mako explorations, I did something I rarely ever do as it can be intrusive and pumped my own music through the xbox. I even rationalised it by pretending my Shepherd had a thing for 1960-2010 period music

[tonnactus]

Kasper Finknottle wrote...

Not sure if it has been said before, but the sniping in ME1 is much better - planet side you actually have the distance to enjoy it rather than have things immediately in your face.

Plus, you can switch to explosive ammo and have a rocket launcher.

In fact,there is no sniping in Mass Effect 2.Its just medium range combat at best,often indoors.Using as sniper rifle alone didnt make the player snipe.