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[HolyAvenger]

Wow an elven character looks different, how rubbish is that [/sarcasm]



I'm really impressed with that- looks awesome. I thought the fact that while they were talking about LIs the fact the video showed Aveline, Isabela and presumably Merril was telling (or at least hinting). But its the overall story of the Champion that has me the most excited. Has the potential to be truly epic and involve choice and consequences I haven't seen in a BioWare game before. The voice acting seemed fine, the graphics impressive.

[SteveStubborn]

Characters look good enough. Environments do not, I'm sad to say. There's a short pan of the city at 03:15 in the video; it could very well be from a 7-8 year old game. The aim for a contrast between the environment and the characters is either a lust for cash or an artistic mistake. Most likely the former. Imagine Dragon Age 2 with the richly detailed enviroments of The Witcher 2.

I'm really not trying to bash the game here, just giving my honest opinion as others probably have since the announcement. That being said, I'm looking forward to the game and another well told story by Gaider and his crew.

Modifié par SteveStubborn, 11 janvier 2011 - 12:44 .

[Beerfish]

Tamyn wrote...


She looks like black-haired Aerie from BG II.

I like Carver's looks and Cassandra's looks. I wish we could have heard Fenris' voice.

Mama Hawke looks very very young.

Can I be the first to complain about two male Hawke's LIs being revealed and no straight female Hawke's LIs being revealed?

That was an intial impression I got as well.  Aerie.

[Lucy Glitter]

Merrill is so tiny!

[Beerfish]

Brockololly wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

I can only speak for myself. How is it bad? Context. I personally will find it amusing, if not distracting to be "rising to power" with a FFF busty pirate in my party. Just like Russ Meyer movies had plots and stories, regardless of the content of the story, it was still cast with super-busty women. Its just belief-suspending. In the same way that I find the very large 2h swords belief-suspending. I'm not asking for realism in a fantasy game, its just a matter of context and immersion. Some stuff just takes me out of context and breaks the immersion.

Whats more bizarre is that most, if not all, females have DDs. Outside of the ones in armor, even the old chantry lady in Sebastian's trailer, Bethany and (seemingly) Merrill are huge. I'm ok if some women are depicted as such in the game, but it cringe worthy when every women looks that way more or less.

I know it likely comes down to having a finite amount of models, but still, it comes across as rather juvenile.

There would be just as many howls if every woman was flat as a board.

[Fishy]

I'm still undecided if i want to preorder it .. It's almost convinced me though humm.

The whole *feeling part* seemed quite similiar .

[andar91]

That...was....awesome. I love the art, I love the animations, I love the voices, I love the mage outfits, and I'm now even more excited for DA2 than I was before.

[Blacklash93]

Beerfish wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

I can only speak for myself. How is it bad? Context. I personally will find it amusing, if not distracting to be "rising to power" with a FFF busty pirate in my party. Just like Russ Meyer movies had plots and stories, regardless of the content of the story, it was still cast with super-busty women. Its just belief-suspending. In the same way that I find the very large 2h swords belief-suspending. I'm not asking for realism in a fantasy game, its just a matter of context and immersion. Some stuff just takes me out of context and breaks the immersion.

Whats more bizarre is that most, if not all, females have DDs. Outside of the ones in armor, even the old chantry lady in Sebastian's trailer, Bethany and (seemingly) Merrill are huge. I'm ok if some women are depicted as such in the game, but it cringe worthy when every women looks that way more or less.

I know it likely comes down to having a finite amount of models, but still, it comes across as rather juvenile.

There would be just as many howls if every woman was flat as a board.

Yeah, because there's nothing in between those two. You either have DD busty or nothing at all.

[DPB]

Read Mary Kirby's post:

There's nothing to "fix." Merrill is tiny. The front of her tunic is baggy. It sticks out a bit, and without the side view, you're assuming it sticks out farther than it does.

Modifié par dbankier, 11 janvier 2011 - 12:50 .

[AtreiyaN7]

Well now, that was an interesting look at things. I think I actually liked Carver's voice-acting a bit more than m. Hawke - heh. M. Hawke's voice is fine, but I'd have to hear a few more lines than just the one (it sseemed a smidge flat, but maybe m. Hawke tends toward being more subtle in his snarkniness?).

[Beerfish]

Blacklash93 wrote...




Yeah, because there's nothing in between those two. You either have DD busty or nothing at all.

Choose any size you like.  I'll even let you choose, you name the size and I'll rail about it being unrealistic and stupid because gosh darn I know good looking big chested and good looking flat chested woman and this is making all females generic.

As clearly stated by others the problem is they don't have breast sliders and are not going to make multiple models just to accomodate breasts. 

[Isaidlunch]

Kail Ashton wrote...

Looking great so far, Isabella upped the smoke'n hotness leval, Aveline still needs to paper bag it though & Merril looks great

On that note, if you lok at the merril pics and think "sexualized child" you A) have no idea what a child looks like and have some serious mental problems, sex offender listing type mental problems, at no point in time do you see a stylized young woman with something of a baby face and think "mmm sexualized child" get help nutters, you're really screwed in the head

Just because we think Merill looks like a child doesn't mean we're a bunch of perverts. I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.

And god forbid we have a female companion (Aveline) who doesn't have a perfect appearance.

[nijnij]

scyphozoa wrote...

nijnij wrote...
How is that a bad thing exactly ? Plus, they look natural, if I may comment.

I can only speak for myself. How is it bad? Context. I personally will find it amusing, if not distracting to be "rising to power" with a FFF busty pirate in my party. Just like Russ Meyer movies had plots and stories, regardless of the content of the story, it was still cast with super-busty women. Its just belief-suspending. In the same way that I find the very large 2h swords belief-suspending. I'm not asking for realism in a fantasy game, its just a matter of context and immersion. Some stuff just takes me out of context and breaks the immersion.

That makes sense. Although I find the generic male human's huge arms much more immersion-breaking. For mages and vendors to all looks like the guies in 300 (who look like dudes who spent too much time at the gym more than they look like skilled warriors) feels much more off IMO. I agree about some of the swords, especially when you see the hilt. But back on the breasts (probably the first time I use the phrase "back on the breasts" in my life), they're certainly there but I would't call it silly ; what Isabela's wearing allows for cheating after all, and on video game standards, I'd say we're pretty lucky ; you should see some of the mods out there.

[Tamyn]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Yeah, because there's nothing in between those two. You either have DD busty or nothing at all.

With the touted customized companions' bodies I was sort of hoping that just the love interests and female Hawke could be busty, while the rest of the NPCs could have a more average size like B or C.

[Fangirl17]

OHMAGAWD Awesome vid! Im so freaking excited now XD

[Ninja Mage]

SteveStubborn wrote...

Characters look good enough. Environments do not, I'm sad to say. There's a short pan of the city at 03:15 in the video; it could very well be from a 7-8 year old game. The aim for a contrast between the environment and the characters is either a lust for cash or an artistic mistake. Most likely the former. Imagine Dragon Age 2 with the richly detailed enviroments of The Witcher 2.

I'm really not trying to bash the game here, just giving my honest opinion as others probably have since the announcement. That being said, I'm looking forward to the game and another well told story by Gaider and his crew.

i'd rather have a 30 hour long game with good visuals than an 8 hour game with mindblowing textures

[Blacklash93]

Ninja Mage wrote...

SteveStubborn wrote...

Characters look good enough. Environments do not, I'm sad to say. There's a short pan of the city at 03:15 in the video; it could very well be from a 7-8 year old game. The aim for a contrast between the environment and the characters is either a lust for cash or an artistic mistake. Most likely the former. Imagine Dragon Age 2 with the richly detailed enviroments of The Witcher 2.

I'm really not trying to bash the game here, just giving my honest opinion as others probably have since the announcement. That being said, I'm looking forward to the game and another well told story by Gaider and his crew.

i'd rather have a 30 hour long game with good visuals than an 8 hour game with mindblowing textures

ME2 had both down. Why can't DA2?

I think Bioware has proven itself competent enough to give us great quality on all ends. It's not showing here.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 11 janvier 2011 - 01:08 .

[nijnij]

I wonder whether I'll try out the French version this time just to see if I like Hawke's VA better. Well, that's the good thing with Steam : you pay for one game but get all the languages.

[VoradorPT]

 That was some amazing stuff! Grrr, still two months away...

Modifié par VoradorPT, 11 janvier 2011 - 01:09 .

[dan4354]

I think that people should get over the fact that we won't have a party of supermodels.

[Harid]

Kail Ashton wrote...

Looking great so far, Isabella upped the smoke'n hotness leval, Aveline still needs to paper bag it though & Merril looks great

On that note, if you lok at the merril pics and think "sexualized child" you A) have no idea what a child looks like and have some serious mental problems, sex offender listing type mental problems, at no point in time do you see a stylized young woman with something of a baby face and think "mmm sexualized child" get help nutters, you're really screwed in the head

I love when people project their issues on other people.

Oh well, unless she looks older from the beginning of the game to the end, like Aerie, I won't have anything to do with her.

I don't care that my allies aren't supermodels, heck, I like everything I've heard about Aveline, for instance.  I just don't like kids in battle.

She reminds me of Meracle from Star Ocean 4.  *shudders*

Modifié par Harid, 11 janvier 2011 - 01:18 .

[crimzontearz]

good god I so want to explore the possible ramifications with Isabela and how to make her "mine" as opposed to friends with benefits.



God Bioware.....stop mocking me with such awesome romances (also...as always good job with the "virgin" thing...Shepard Docet hehehehehe)

[kalassy]

Whoa... Carver.... actually looks kinda cute now.

[_Aine_]

Beerfish wrote...

Choose any size you like.  I'll even let you choose, you name the size and I'll rail about it being unrealistic and stupid because gosh darn I know good looking big chested and good looking flat chested woman and this is making all females generic.

As clearly stated by others the problem is they don't have breast sliders and are not going to make multiple models just to accomodate breasts. 

Generic! That is it. 

I wish the in-world generic would have been a nice C though.  That is full for an athletic woman and doesn't distract from the surrounding...  It is attractive and in the right clothes, looks bigger.  *shrug*    THIS is distracting for males too. Zevran did not wear one.  

Whatever floats Bioware's boat... 

[Ninja Mage]

Merril is looking a little 17 year old with a heart of gold and huge T***s. She's like the girl next door, except more sexual!