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[GodWood]

Maria Caliban wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Because I doubt Thedas has mastered atificial insemination and I take it most players wouldn't want another man laying with their LI.

Dark. Ritual.
Try to enjoy your Alistiar romance without it.

It's become a life or death situation now?

[Zjarcal]

BTCentral wrote...

And to keep us on topic, Maria - now that this banner has had the spelling corrected, any chance of getting the first post updated?

*snip*

That really bugged you, huh? 

And if we're making those kinds of requests, perhaps my Marvin the Martian Merrill (Mervill?) could make it to the front page too? Pwease?

http://social.biowar...2342/81#5713408

EDIT: Woot, we're at page 100 already!! :wizard:

Modifié par Zjarcal, 15 janvier 2011 - 12:27 .

[Maria Caliban]

GodWood wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Because I doubt Thedas has mastered atificial insemination and I take it most players wouldn't want another man laying with their LI.

Dark. Ritual.
Try to enjoy your Alistiar romance without it.

It's become a life or death situation now?

Not at all.

But suggesting that it's a bad idea because players might not like it seems to ignore the content of other BioWare romances.

I accept that if I start a BioWare romances I might:
* Have to let them sleep with another
* Get dumped
* Watch the person I love die for me
* Have the person I love commit suicide if I leave them
* Have them taken hostage
* Have them go insane and turn evil
* Whatever other sadistic crap the writers think up.

BioWare Romances: Heavy Risk.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 15 janvier 2011 - 12:28 .

[BTCentral]

Zjarcal wrote...

That really bugged you, huh? 

Actually, it was pretty much the first thing I could think of at the time to try and keep on the topic of Merrill, having just asked a completely off topic question above it

Modifié par BTCentral, 15 janvier 2011 - 12:29 .

[Dave of Canada]

Maria Caliban wrote...

BioWare Romances: Heavy Risk.

... but the prize.

[RogueWriter3201]

Maria Caliban wrote...

glenboy24 wrote...

If this were set in the modern age I could see them going to a Dalish Sperm bank and taking care of that. However, the idea of letting another man lay with your beloved for *any* reason flies in the face of all morality and love.

All 'morality and love?' There are many arranged marriages in Thedas. Sneaking out for a bit on the side is acceptable for both genders.

And we're not just talking about Hawke's society. The Dalish would probably like their mages to pop out little elven mages. Merrill might feel she has a duty beyond her love of Hawke.

It's as disgusting as Premanocta.

Prima nocta is disgusting because it's a form of rape. It's also mostly fictitious wherein sleeping with someone other than your boyfriend is hardly unusual.

1) Hawke and Merrill don't fall into the catagory of arranged marriages. If you're with Merril in the context of how BioWare usually handles romances then it's because she love you, deeply. She isn't going to want to mess around. She isn't Isabela.

2) Yes, I'm sure the Dalish would want Merrill to have an Elven child, Magic oriented or no. However, it's unlikely they would ask Merrill to make that kind of choice if she's as deeply devoted to Hawke as she's likely to be. Again, that's how BioWare usually does it. Soul Mates and so on. You putting Merrill into *your* shoes, i.e. what you think is cosure. It's unlikely Mary Kirby gave her your personality, sense of Morality. Not that you're a bad person, I think you're hilarious. But, Merril ain't you.

3) Prima Nocta is fictitious? Have you ever picked up a History Book, or taken a course in World history or anthropology? It was far from *fiction.* It was gross and it happened quite often especially in the Northern Europe and parts of France and Ireland/Scottland. I compared Merrill laying with another man to it because of the emotional damage it would do to one partner or another.

[Demx]

Maria Caliban wrote...

And we're not just talking about Hawke's society. The Dalish would probably like their mages to pop out little elven mages. Merrill might feel she has a duty beyond her love of Hawke.

I don't think the Dalish keepers are according to biological successors, but to how strong and wise the person is as a mage within the community.  I think Lanaya said she had to earn the right to become the Keeper's first or something in DAO. Then there is the actuality of having a mage as a child. Is there really a guarantee that she will have a mage as a child?

Modifié par Siradix, 15 janvier 2011 - 12:32 .

[Dave of Canada]

I thought "Keeper's first" was simply a title and had no sexual implications at all.

I'm also unable to see how having sex to concieve a child is similar to rape.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 15 janvier 2011 - 12:34 .

[RogueWriter3201]

Maria Caliban wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Because I doubt Thedas has mastered atificial insemination and I take it most players wouldn't want another man laying with their LI.

Dark. Ritual.
Try to enjoy your Alistiar romance without it.

It's become a life or death situation now?

Not at all.

But suggesting that it's a bad idea because players might not like it seems to ignore the content of other BioWare romances.

I accept that if I start a BioWare romances I might:
* Have to let them sleep with another
* Get dumped
* Watch the person I love die for me
* Have the person I love commit suicide if I leave them
* Have them taken hostage
* Have them go insane and turn evil
* Whatever other sadistic crap the writers think up.

BioWare Romances: Heavy Risk.

You're also kind of discounting the fact that even though these options/scenarios came up, there were also ways to avoid them and have a happy ending with your respective LI. It was not always cut and dry, but BioWare has always given players way to keep thier romances guilt free. With my DAO playthrough I either asked my best friend Alistair to take one for the team or asked Loghain to do it in another. Either way, never cheated on Leliana.

[GodWood]

Maria Caliban wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...
Dark. Ritual.
Try to enjoy your Alistiar romance without it.

It's become a life or death situation now?

Not at all.
But suggesting that it's a bad idea because players might not like it seems to ignore the content of other BioWare romances.

Ahh, but I never said it'd be a 'bad' idea, just that many would not like to share.
I personally prefer my romances to be as sadistic, drama filled and emotionally crippling as possible.

Modifié par GodWood, 15 janvier 2011 - 12:36 .

[Maria Caliban]

Zjarcal wrote...

That really bugged you, huh? 

And if we're making those kinds of requests, perhaps my Marvin the Martian Merrill (Mervill?) could make it to the front page too? Pwease?

http://social.biowar...2342/81#5713408

EDIT: Woot, we're at page 100 already!! :wizard:

Did I miss you?

I am sorry. I'll stick that right up.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 15 janvier 2011 - 12:38 .

[Drizzt ORierdan]

Well, if I really loved Merrill Id be willing to renounce her, if it were for her own good, cause becoming Dalish (being a human) is out of the question...  How about them apples?

To love someone is not always about making you happy.



Edit: 100 PAGES!!!! We should have a celebration party!!! 

Modifié par Drizzt ORierdan, 15 janvier 2011 - 12:44 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Dave of Canada wrote...
I'm also unable to see how having sex to concieve a child is similar to rape.

Ditto. This thread has taken a turn for the strange. *munches popcorn*

[Dr. wonderful]

100 Pages in four days?



Congratulations, 

[RogueWriter3201]

Pseudocognition wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
I'm also unable to see how having sex to concieve a child is similar to rape.

Ditto. This thread has taken a turn for the strange. *munches popcorn*

To each thier own. I don't begrudge others thier Greek Tradegy like desires, but I sure as heck don't want them nor do I see the value in them. And I love Greek Epics! Still...Merrill, if she is a LI, will not be something I'll want to see torn apart nor do I expect BioWare to take that road. It might be an option, but it won't be the only one. Also...(ahem) ONE HUNDRED PAGES!!!!

*Takes shirt off, spins it around*

Wooot!

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

I don't see how there's anything tragic about it if it's a mutually agreed upon solution to a hypothetical obligation to produce Elf babeezz.

(Oh that would be a mouthful out loud.)

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 15 janvier 2011 - 12:50 .

[Dave of Canada]

... and what if she wants elf children? Would you deny her that for your own selfish desire to keep her to yourself?

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 15 janvier 2011 - 12:51 .

[Sabariel]

Maria Caliban wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Because I doubt Thedas has mastered atificial insemination and I take it most players wouldn't want another man laying with their LI.

Dark. Ritual.

Try to enjoy your Alistiar romance without it.

I enjoyed my romance with Alistair very much without said ritual.

[Dhiro]

Dave of Canada wrote...

... and what if she wants elf children? Would you deny her that for your own selfish desire to keep her to yourself?

AAAAAAAAAANGST

*ahem*

That would be sad :<

[Sabariel]

Dave of Canada wrote...

... and what if she wants elf children? Would you deny her that for your own selfish desire to keep her to yourself?

If we couldn't agree on what kind of children to have I would question why we were together in the first place. Most likely it would end in us going our separate ways.

[Demx]

Dave of Canada wrote...

... and what if she wants elf children? Would you deny her that for your own selfish desire to keep her to yourself?

That could also be proposed to Merrill as well. What if Hawke wanted a human child? She would be denying him, the champion of Kirkwall, the right because of her own selfish needs.

[Maria Caliban]

glenboy24 wrote...

1) Hawke and Merrill don't fall into the catagory of arranged marriages. If you're with Merril in the context of how BioWare usually handles romances then it's because she love you, deeply. She isn't going to want to mess around. She isn't Isabela.

2) Yes, I'm sure the Dalish would want Merrill to have an Elven child, Magic oriented or no. However, it's unlikely they would ask Merrill to make that kind of choice if she's as deeply devoted to Hawke as she's likely to be. Again, that's how BioWare usually does it. Soul Mates and so on. You putting Merrill into *your* shoes, i.e. what you think is cosure. It's unlikely Mary Kirby gave her your personality, sense of Morality. Not that you're a bad person, I think you're hilarious. But, Merril ain't you.

3) Prima Nocta is fictitious? Have you ever picked up a History Book, or taken a course in World history or anthropology? It was far from *fiction.* It was gross and it happened quite often especially in the Northern Europe and parts of France and Ireland/Scottland. I compared Merrill laying with another man to it because of the emotional damage it would do to one partner or another.

Okay, I'm going to back off here as I seemed to have pushed a button.

Asking me if I've ever picked up a history book is rather insulting. Moreover, I'd suggest that both of us are obviously working within the framework of our respective moralities.

Neither of us have any idea what her actual personality is or outlook is.

[RogueWriter3201]

Pseudocognition wrote...

I don't see how there's anything tragic about it if it's a mutually agreed upon solution to a hypothetical obligation to produce Elf babeezz.

(Oh that would be a mouthful out loud.)

(Laughs) That could be the subject matter of your next Merrill Art Masterpiece, no?

[Dave of Canada]

Siradix wrote...

That could also be proposed to Merrill as well. What if Hawke wanted a human child? She would be denying him, the champion of Kirkwall, the right because of her own selfish needs.

She could always have a child with Hawke later when they have an elven child to raise, or vice versa.

[Maria Caliban]

Siradix wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

... and what if she wants elf children? Would you deny her that for your own selfish desire to keep her to yourself?

That could also be proposed to Merrill as well. What if Hawke wanted a human child? She would be denying him, the champion of Kirkwall, the right because of her own selfish needs.

She could have elven and human children if she desired.