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[Crippledcarny]

hhh89 wrote...

I don't mind the shoeless elves.

I mind it!

Modifié par Crippledcarny, 27 janvier 2011 - 05:09 .

[The Gentle Ben]

Beerfish wrote...
All of this adds up to a viable reason to not wear shoes.  By the reasoning above we should be wearing shoes all the time in the house, on the beach on the grass in the back yard.

You can believe it or not but some people think it's better to go barefoot than otherwise for a variety of reasons.

If the sole objective (pun perhaps intended) was the protection of one's feet than I believe that would be the logical outcome. I fully acknowledge that there are tradeoffs, which is why the possession of footwear is so advantageous. It can be applied or removed when the balance of the equation changes.

People may find it preferable to be consistently barefoot, certainly, but due to the many perks of the alternative (and as a result, its widespread adoption) it would certainly be comment-worthy if not eyebrow-raising.

If shoes are so unnecessary for these free-footed hardened soles (I'm killing this joke, I don't care) due to the reasons you state, then one has to wonder why mankind developed them in the first place? I believe Mr. Solonnar already addressed this very point quite admirably.

[Drizzt ORierdan]

hhh89 wrote...

I don't mind the shoeless elves. Although it will be nice if someone of the art development team explain why they don't like elves with shoes.

Its not that they dont like shoes. My guess is that they think being shoeless give Elves more personality... Im cool with that.

[ankuu]

Drizzt ORierdan wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

I don't mind the shoeless elves. Although it will be nice if someone of the art development team explain why they don't like elves with shoes.

Its not that they dont like shoes. My guess is that they think being shoeless give Elves more personality... Im cool with that.

Or they want to point out that they are one with nature! Hippy-like :lol:Which reminds me of Overlord...



That was one high elf alright...

Modifié par ankuu, 27 janvier 2011 - 05:18 .

[Nayt Navare]

Kinda liking Merrill. I hope to see more of her, soon.

[Atakuma]

I really hope the lack of footwear only applies to the dalish. It just wouldn't make sense to me having the city elves barefoot as well.

[Face of Evil]

SE JN wrote...

Kinda liking Merrill. I hope to see more of her, soon.

Yeah, I'd like to see more of her too.

*Bites lower lip*

[Nayt Navare]

Face of Evil wrote...

SE JN wrote...

Kinda liking Merrill. I hope to see more of her, soon.

Yeah, I'd like to see more of her too.

*Bites lower lip*

Ha, I see what you did there.

[ViSeiRa]

Face of Evil wrote...

SE JN wrote...

Kinda liking Merrill. I hope to see more of her, soon.

Yeah, I'd like to see more of her too.

*Bites lower lip*

She's quite cool all covered up... for now 

[The Gentle Ben]

Atakuma wrote...
I really hope the lack of footwear only applies to the dalish. It just wouldn't make sense to me having the city elves barefoot as well.

Ah, but you're failing to think like an artist.

We need visual distinction:
- City elves are poor . . . No shoes!
- Dalish elves love nature . . . No shoes!

My (no longer) secret hope is that elven circle mages are also thus deprived. If this proves to be the case then we will know that a conspiracy is indeed . . . afoot.

[Shepard Lives]

The Gentle Ben wrote...
afoot.

May I high-five you, Ben?

[Atakuma]

I think one of the artists just likes feet.

[The Gentle Ben]

Shepard Lives wrote...
May I high-five you, Ben?

Indeed you may. Up top!

[ThatGamerWithSouvlaki285]

DaggerFiend wrote...

DaggerFiend wrote...

In west Ferelden, born and raised,
in the forests is where I spent most of my days...

Screw it, I'm doing the whole song.


Chillin out, maxin, ralaxin, all cool,
and all shootin sum Halla outside of the training,
when a couple of shems, who were u to no good,
started making trouble in my Clan's hood.
I got in one little fight and my Keeper got scared and said
"You're moving with this guy named Hawke to Kirkwall"
I whistled for the dude and when he came near,
He had a beard on his face and was Nutella smeared.
If anything, I could say that this shem was rare,
but I thought, could be worse, "Yo holmes, to Kirkwall!"
I pulled up to the city, rebellion a stirring,
and I yelled to Hawke, "Go home, I'll see you later!"
Looked around the place, I was finally there,
to take up my staff, now I'm the Keeper of Kirkwall

:O:O:O:O:O<3<3<3<3<3<3
Love it!!!

[Apollo Starflare]

*Reads Merrill/Fresh Prince spoof, mind expodes*



Good job that forumite.

[tmp7704]

The Gentle Ben wrote...

Ah, but you're failing to think like an artist.

Considering this would require said artist to think like an idiot, i think it's unfair to paint them all with such brush. Maybe they just really like feet.

(although i'd question whether it's such a good idea to let the artists call the shots like that, considering supposedly number of questionable design elements in ME2 like the whole "weapon reloading" stuff and the widely mocked vacuum breathing masks were result of listening to the artists' whims perhaps a tiny bit too much)

Modifié par tmp7704, 27 janvier 2011 - 06:36 .

[The Gentle Ben]

I was really just setting up my foot joke...

[tmp7704]

If it's any consolation it did make me snicker

Modifié par tmp7704, 27 janvier 2011 - 06:38 .

[Nayt Navare]

hate to say it, but I don't feel like sorting through 148 pages of all this, but what's up with the "foot art" I keep hearing about?

[The Elder King]

The elves (or some of them) don't have shoes anymore.

[David Gaider]

tmp7704 wrote...
(although i'd question whether it's such a good idea to let the artists call the shots like that, considering supposedly number of questionable design elements in ME2 like the whole "weapon reloading" stuff and the widely mocked vacuum breathing masks were result of listening to the artists' whims perhaps a tiny bit too much)

And I'd say it's just as questionable whether a fan's whims regarding what they consider "realistic" or pleasing should be more valid than an artist's... or a writer's, for that matter. Get over yourselves.

[mellifera]

David Gaider wrote...

yukidama wrote...
They were never there to begin with.

Evidently some people take me seriously even with the .

The Gentle Ben wrote...
Well, a triviality can still be ridiculous, and I have to agree with yukidama that this would appear to qualify. If this sort of design decision is a consequence of a singular companion outfit than I would score one for the opposition (Companion specific clothing is fine by me, but the idea that the choice was between complete variation and a single outfit always struck me as an obviously false dichotomy. Design multiple outfits per character (I'm aware that it was in all likelihood a resource decision, especially as it pertains to cinematics, but that was not the reasoning put forward)). By placing the onus for clothing selection on the developers, the implementations put forth would seem to be more fairly open to criticism.

Or people could get over the notion that they need to choose their companion's outfits in addition to their own. Really, I just think people like to obsess. The fact that you could change companion outfits in DAO didn't stop anyone from nit-picking over their appearance or whipping up alternate appearance mods to suit.

"Merrill Shoe Mod" comin' up!

But I often tell my friends that if they're not dressed to my tastes they can either get changed into an outift I picked or I leave them alone in a pack of infinitely respawning bereskarn.

I also demand they get breast implants and/or reductions based on how I think their silhouette should look. Yes, even the men.

You're breaking immersion for me, Gaider. I will not stand for this *cancels DA2 preorder*

Modifié par yukidama, 27 janvier 2011 - 06:54 .

[TJPags]

David Gaider wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...
(although i'd question whether it's such a good idea to let the artists call the shots like that, considering supposedly number of questionable design elements in ME2 like the whole "weapon reloading" stuff and the widely mocked vacuum breathing masks were result of listening to the artists' whims perhaps a tiny bit too much)

And I'd say it's just as questionable whether a fan's whims regarding what they consider "realistic" or pleasing should be more valid than an artist's... or a writer's, for that matter. Get over yourselves.

I'm sure you don't mean this to say that an artist's - or a writer's - opinion is more valid than that of the customers for whom they're creating their art, do you?

I mean, yes, some people will be unhappy no matter what you do, but if a large majority of your customers don't like something you did, wouldn't that be something to consider before continuing to do it or deciding to change?

And I have no idea if the examples mentioned there meet that "large majority" mark I mentioned - having never played ME or ME2, I have no idea what they even are - but I'm speaking in more general terms.

[tmp7704]

David Gaider wrote...

And I'd say it's just as questionable whether a fan's whims regarding what they consider "realistic" or pleasing should be more valid than an artist's... or a writer's, for that matter. Get over yourselves.

Considering it's generally the players not the artist in question that get to play the game in the end? I'm not sure who in this situation needs more to "get over themselves" -- i'm talking specifically about situations like changing the game mechanics to introduce pointless "heat clips" because the artists really really wanted to have this sort of visual in it.

[Lenimph]

Remember everyone she is a mage... how do you know she isn't wearing invisible shoes?