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[M8DMAN]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I like having my ear nibbled and I am not in middle or high school.

Do you have corn that grows on your ear? I'd probably nibble on it if that were the case.

I edited my post to clarify that I don't want any of this "custey" stuff. Though that's mostly my attitude towards most of the thread and it's wanting of an innocent virgin elf that will sleep and bear Hawke many children. (not targeted to anybody in specific, just some attitudes in the thread)

What the hell is "cutesy" about ear nibbling? I mean its no diffrent then giving a girl a hicky. Didn't you ever date?

Modifié par M8DMAN, 31 janvier 2011 - 03:29 .

[M8DMAN]

tmp7704 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

 I don't see people defending that Aveline (or others) be virgins / innocent and pure.

That's be rather hard with Aveline.

Aveline looks like a Shim.

Modifié par M8DMAN, 31 janvier 2011 - 03:36 .

[mellifera]

M8DMAN wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

 I don't see people defending that Aveline (or others) be virgins / innocent and pure.

That's be rather hard with Aveline.

Aveline looks like a Shim.

*facepalm*

Real classy, there.

[M8DMAN]

yukidama wrote...

M8DMAN wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

 I don't see people defending that Aveline (or others) be virgins / innocent and pure.

That's be rather hard with Aveline.

Aveline looks like a Shim.

*facepalm*

Real classy, there.

Well she does have man arm's. But anyway we need to get this thread back of track.

Modifié par M8DMAN, 31 janvier 2011 - 03:42 .

[mellifera]

So a woman having muscular arms or non-stereotypically feminine features = okay to call them derogatory and offensive names? Good to know.

[Neesee]

M8DMAN wrote...

yukidama wrote...

M8DMAN wrote...

Aveline looks like a Shim.

*facepalm*

Real classy, there.

Well she does have man arm's.

Lovely man arms 

[wulfsturm]

So yeah... about that MERRILL.

[Merllle]

Neesee wrote...

M8DMAN wrote...

yukidama wrote...

M8DMAN wrote...

Aveline looks like a Shim.

*facepalm*

Real classy, there.

Well she does have man arm's.

Lovely man arms 

What the girls said. Every word <3

[wulfsturm]

Aveline thread is that way people ----------->

[M8DMAN]

yukidama wrote...

So a woman having muscular arms or non-stereotypically feminine features = okay to call them derogatory and offensive names? Good to know.

I don't mind a women having muscles. Hell I'm a big fan of strong female leads.

I just don't like Aveline's character design, she just doesn't look natural to me. Instead of coming off as a strong female warrior she looks more like a man with a female's head.

Modifié par M8DMAN, 31 janvier 2011 - 03:58 .

[moilami]

Redhawkdown wrote...

Blood Magic being evil is an arbitary concept that the Chantry put in place. Since the dalish keepers operates outside of the chantry they probably have their own rules regarding the use of magic.

So yea for those who care, imho Merill using Blood Magic has nothing to do with her being non-innocent whatsoever.

Shortened the post to make the facts visible.

Also I have understood Dalish don't worship the maker. I have no clue about their gods but it can be possible there is no religious reason for them to not use bloodmagic.

Dalish are tribal "gatherer/herder/wanderer" type people living close to nature (life) and them using blood magic would be "in touch" with life.

(Virgins are overrated by the way. They suck in bed. Not saying that would be a crime or bad thing, but just sayin'.)

[Face of Evil]

I suspect the Dalish would loath blood magic because it allowed the Tevinter Imperium to destroy Arlathan, and because it is immensely dangerous.

moilami wrote...

(Virgins are overrated by the way. They suck in bed. Not saying that would be a crime or bad thing, but just sayin'.)

Well, as they say, if you want to build a house, you don't hire a carpenter who's never used a hammer.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 31 janvier 2011 - 04:14 .

[Sharn01]

Face of Evil wrote...

I suspect the Dalish would loath blood magic because it allowed the Tevinter Imperium to destroy Arlathan, and because it is immensely dangerous.

There is no evidence it is dangerous outside of what the Chantry says.

[Orian Tabris]

The Director wrote...

Good luck! And nice to see you noted the ages. Origins did have a habit of leaving those out with a majority of the characters, but then again, if the writers did post those, the fans would be going "WHEN'S THEIR BIRTHDAYS?!! WE MUST KNOW!!!!"

Anyway, you took a gamble and it worked out for the better at least in such a small context. It might spark one of those wierder discussions on what age is necessarily adulthood in Thedas but that is a totally different story.

That might not be such a bad thing. There is an anime called One Piece, where the creator of it hadn't given ages to the characters. People started suggesting ages for the main characters and eventually he decided to let them choose how old they were (within reason). And the characters were better for it. Now, I doubt Bioware would be so agreeable to the idea of letting forumites decide how old each of the DA companions are, or when their birthdays are, but I'm sure players would find a new appreciation for the characters if that were to happen.

Unfortunately, the writers would have think a lot* harder about timeframes and such, and I think they'd prefer to stick to years and months, rather add days to the mix (so to speak).

In any case, I agree with keeping the ages unknown, if only for the writers' sake.

* = Notice people, how I didn't spell it as alot, this is because alot is not a word.

[Face of Evil]

Sharn01 wrote...

There is no evidence it is dangerous outside of what the Chantry says.

Because I've re-hashed this argument a thousand times now, I want to stress that I didn't mean blood magic has a "corrupting" influence. However, its power — and therefore the dangers that can arise from its use — are undeniable.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 31 janvier 2011 - 04:18 .

[Atakuma]

Sharn01 wrote...

Face of Evil wrote...

I suspect the Dalish would loath blood magic because it allowed the Tevinter Imperium to destroy Arlathan, and because it is immensely dangerous.

There is no evidence it is dangerous outside of what the Chantry says.

Except for the wardens keep and circle tower incidents, there's no evidence at all.

Modifié par Atakuma, 31 janvier 2011 - 04:18 .

[GodWood]

Sharn01 wrote...
There is no evidence it is dangerous outside of what the Chantry says.

All magic is dangerous.
Blood Magic is especially dangerous.

[Sharn01]

Atakuma wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

Face of Evil wrote...

I suspect the Dalish would loath blood magic because it allowed the Tevinter Imperium to destroy Arlathan, and because it is immensely dangerous.

There is no evidence it is dangerous outside of what the Chantry says.

Except for the wardens keep and circle tower incidents, there's no evidence at all.

Neither of which have anything at all to do with blood magic.  Thats like saying guns are inherently evil because an evil person uses it to murder someone.

[Face of Evil]

Atakuma wrote...

Except for the wardens keep and circle tower incidents, there's no evidence at all.

And the werewolf curse. And the trapping of the people in the Blackmarsh within the Fade.

But still, no evidence whatsoever ...

[wulfsturm]

Sharn01 wrote...

Neither of which have anything at all to do with blood magic.  Thats like saying guns are inherently evil because an evil person uses it to murder someone.

Evil? No.

Dangerous? Most certainly yes.

[Atakuma]

Sharn01 wrote...
Neither of which have anything at all to do with blood magic.  Thats like saying guns are inherently evil because an evil person uses it to murder someone.

Both of those things happend because of blood magic. You said there was no evidence of it being dangerous, which isn't true, I never said it was inherently evil.

[Sharn01]

Face of Evil wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

There is no evidence it is dangerous outside of what the Chantry says.

Because I've re-hashed this argument a thousand times now, I want to stress that I didn't mean blood magic has a "corrupting" influence. However, its power — and therefore the dangers that can arise from its use — are undeniable.

I interpreted your post to mean the corrupting and evil type of dangerous, not the powerful kind of dangerous.  The dailish have been beaten down by humans for centuries and cannot live in one place for long without an army being built to come slaughter them.  Turning your back on magic which can increase your chances for survival is exactly the opposite of what I think they would do.

To all the posters who have responded, I made an incorrect assumption that you where presuming blood magic to be dangerous as in evil and unusable, not dangerous as in powerful or potentially harmful in the wrong hands.  If we refused to use anything that is potentially dangerous or harmful we would be lacking in a lot of things. 

Modifié par Sharn01, 31 janvier 2011 - 04:29 .

[Face of Evil]

Sharn01 wrote...



Neither of which have anything at all to do with blood magic.&nbsp; Thats like saying guns are inherently evil because an evil person uses it to murder someone.

Blood magic are effectively the equivalent of nuclear weapons in Thedas. Nuclear bombs aren't evil, but we don't distribute them freely to the citizenry, do we?

Sharn01 wrote...

The dailish have been beaten down by humans for centuries and cannot live in one place for long without an army being built to come slaughter them.  Turning your back on magic which can increase your chances for survival is exactly the opposite of what I think they would do.

Using blood magic would only decrease their chances of survival. As it stands, the Chantry isn't crazy about the Dalish, what with them worshipping heathen gods and letting apostates run their clans. If the Dalish start freely using blood magic, that's all the Chantry needs to send an army of templars after them.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 31 janvier 2011 - 04:31 .

[Sharn01]

Face of Evil wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

Neither of which have anything at all to do with blood magic.&nbsp; Thats like saying guns are inherently evil because an evil person uses it to murder someone.

Blood magic are effectively the equivalent of nuclear weapons in Thedas. Nuclear bombs aren't evil, but we don't distribute them freely to the citizenry, do we?

You have absolutely no concept of the power of a nuclear weapon if you are comparing it to blood magic.

[Taritu]

Power corrupts. The power to control people's minds is very corrupting and is the sort of thing which probably would (and arguably should) be forbidden. Remember, this isn't theoretical, the Tevinter Magi did use it routinely for mind control.

There may be times when blood magic is "necessary", but if I lived in Thedas, I wouldn't trust anyone who wanted that power for themselves. The Templars aren't all evil, the fear of blood magic is entirely reasonable based on what it can do and on actual recorded history. The problem is that the Templars control drives mages to blood magic to escape (as seen in the Tower), and thus causes what it is meant to stop.

Current Dalish culture seems fairly clearly similar to tinkers/Rom of the middle ages, actually, though of course, there are other admixtures.

Modifié par Taritu, 31 janvier 2011 - 04:33 .