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[Eclipse_9990]

filaminstrel wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

I dunno, I remember an "Isabela Sucks" thread lasting quite a while.

Well.. Were they being specific about what Isabella was sucking? 

Yeah......

Regarding elves' appearance, I dunno, it looks to me like they just slid the "fey" meter a little farther toward "fey." Elves were otherwise always a bit small and spindly. It doesn't seem that drastic.

But she hardly represents the entire elven race. Just look at Fenris he's just as tall as Hawke. I don't think Merrills looks are the general appearance of elves.. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 11 janvier 2011 - 02:24 .

[Demx]

g-vapen wrote...

A petite lolita-type?
... I'm in.

Oh? A petite Large-scale, Object-based, Linguistic Interactor, Translator and Analyzer type?

[Legion 2.5]

Addai67 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

GOAT EARS!!!!! YES!!! That's what they remind me of!!!!!!!

I'm sorry - I can't get past that.  It's like some horrid mutation, or a genetic experiment gone wrong.

Count me in the "haven't read enough anime" crowd.  Those things are a joke.

Don't forget the freakishly large eyes and odd facial structure.  Assuming all the Dalish are going to look this way, it represents quite a retcon of our PCs.



I'm hoping this is an early shot and she's going to look better.  Also, cringing at the thought of what the males are going to look like.  At least Fenris looks better in comparison... and Isabela, knockers hanging out and all.  Trying to find the silver lining here.

Where did you get that picture on the right?

[Maria Caliban]

nijnij wrote...

I don't wanna be a bummer but I just felt like pointing out that this is the Merrill "appreciation" thread. It's cool for people to have different opinions and all but the whole board pretty much goes viral with derogatory comments whenever a female character is announced, and although I'm not the OP, I'm pretty sure that's the reason behind "appreciation" threads is the hope to keep negativity away.

I am aware of the irony of a number of people criticizing Merrill's appearance in an appreciation thread. I am also aware that it's inevitable.

[TheRevelator]

That smirk in the shot makes it seem like she may be a smartass, which is something that I, as a smartass, find irresistible.

I don't really see her as being that young, it seems more like an elf to me.

[SteamPunks]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...
Regarding elves' appearance, I dunno, it looks to me like they just slid the "fey" meter a little farther toward "fey." Elves were otherwise always a bit small and spindly. It doesn't seem that drastic.

But she hardly represents the entire elven race. Just look at Fenris he's just as tall as Hawke. I don't think Merrills looks are the general appearance of elves.. 

The concept art does show elves with slightly larger alien-like eyes, and paler skin. However, that being said it is concept art. She may be like Liara vs Asari. Liara had odd colouring and facial structure because she was a main character.

Modifié par SteamPunks, 11 janvier 2011 - 02:29 .

[Demx]

Legion 2.5 wrote...

Where did you get that picture on the right?

Picture on the right was her old warden.

[Thicos]

Is really Merrill?

Where is the confirmation?

Will she be keeper?

She with nature magic, please

[SteamPunks]

Thicos wrote...

Is really Merrill?
Where is the confirmation?
Will she be keeper?
She with nature magic, please

David Gaider wrote...
Err... I'm assuming this is because there's voiceover that says this when Merrill is on-screen?

Just
a word of caution not to see the two as being related-- sometimes they
are, though not in the way you might think. You're free to believe what
you like, however, all I'm saying is not to make assumption based on
that alone. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png

The devs have been referring to her as Merrill so either she is Merrill or they are really screwing with us.

Modifié par SteamPunks, 11 janvier 2011 - 02:32 .

[Legion 2.5]

Siradix wrote...

Legion 2.5 wrote...

Where did you get that picture on the right?

Picture on the right was her old warden.

Oh now I see.

[Addai]

Legion 2.5 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

GOAT EARS!!!!! YES!!! That's what they remind me of!!!!!!!

I'm sorry - I can't get past that.  It's like some horrid mutation, or a genetic experiment gone wrong.

Count me in the "haven't read enough anime" crowd.  Those things are a joke.

Don't forget the freakishly large eyes and odd facial structure.  Assuming all the Dalish are going to look this way, it represents quite a retcon of our PCs.



I'm hoping this is an early shot and she's going to look better.  Also, cringing at the thought of what the males are going to look like.  At least Fenris looks better in comparison... and Isabela, knockers hanging out and all.  Trying to find the silver lining here.

Where did you get that picture on the right?

That's my PC.  Sorry if it causes any confusion, I meant to show that the facial structure and proportions are out of whack with the Origins Dalish, assuming that this is what all the Dalish look like.

This is Merrill in Origins (center).

Modifié par Addai67, 11 janvier 2011 - 02:33 .

[Demx]

Thicos wrote...

Is really Merrill?
Where is the confirmation?
Will she be keeper?
She with nature magic, please

Yes, David confirmed it was her on the first page. If she joins your party I don't think she can be a keeper.

[Morroian]

From Gaider in the Dev Diary thread:

David Gaider wrote...

To some, possibly. It's an interesting angle they've got in that shot, considering that Merrill is a B-cup at best (if you want to get technical about it). Her outfit is baggy in the front, so it simply looks that way (and it does, I see what you're seeing from that particular shot).

As for her looking tiny, I assume that's also the angle. She's not much smaller than an average human, to be honest. She is thin, though-- all elves have very slender body types (to go back to the art team's intention to give the races more distinct silhouettes).

One assumes that as we release more information, people will get a better impression. It's hard to judge something (particularly a whole race) based on a single screenshot (Carver, anyone?). But in the meantime, it's fun to speculate away. Feel free.

So all the knee jerk responders should bear this in mind especially given the similar thing which happened with Carver.

Modifié par Morroian, 11 janvier 2011 - 02:34 .

[Annihilator27]

Its nice to see someone from my Dalish elf adventures. Thanks Bioware.

[Thunderfox]

nevermind. I remembered that other than Fenris who is a.... special case this is the first elf we've seen in game, so it's ours first look at the annouced redesign

Modifié par ThunderfoxF, 11 janvier 2011 - 02:38 .

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Hmm, interesting. I would like to see more screenshots of her since we are running on so little information. Her outfit looks somewhat strange and I'm not sure if it's the elven body model or the outfit she wears that gives her such an odd, slumped look. She also looks fairly young but that might just be her expression in the screenshot.



It's good she is in the game. With focusing the game on a set human main character, I was hoping to see more elven and dwarven NPCs along the way.

[TJPags]

filaminstrel wrote...

TJPags wrote...

A little?  I think their "fey" meter went to 11!!!

How? Her eyes are a bit big, her nose is a bit small, non-PC elves have always had ears that stuck out like donkeys, I'm not seeing any other big changes.

edit: hm, looking at the above, maybe they didn't actually stick out quite as much as I remember.

edit2: I don't know why I said non-PC instead of simply NPC.

Her eyes don't bother me that much (they do seem a bit too big, but maybe she's just surprised there). 

It's HER that seems too small.  Small body, short, thing, long, thin neck, small head, big eyes, huge rack, and those ears.  I honestly don't remember DAO elf ears looking that bad - yes, they were a bit off, but not like that.  it's not even donkey ears - she looks morphed with a goat, to me.

If those are her ears, that's awful.  And if it's just a bad angle in the video, then man, someone else needs to start choosing the clips they use for videos and reveal pictures.

[themageguy]

thats the thing. i like how small she is. it makes for a big suprise when she unleashes some powerful magic!

[Demx]

Maybe they just made her short for the party banter.
I can only dream that's the reason.

[nijnij]

ap·pre·ci·a·tion (-prsh-shn)

n.

1. Recognition of the quality, value, significance, or magnitude of people and things.

2. A judgment or opinion, especially a favorable one.

3. An expression of gratitude.

[SteamPunks]

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...
Hmm, interesting. I would like to see more screenshots of her since we are running on so little information. Her outfit looks somewhat strange and I'm not sure if it's the elven body model or the outfit she wears that gives her such an odd, slumped look. She also looks fairly young but that might just be her expression in the screenshot.

It's good she is in the game. With focusing the game on a set human main character, I was hoping to see more elven and dwarven NPCs along the way.

David and Mary did say that her baggy clothes changes the appearance of her body. So I'm guessign that is affecting her posture.

filaminstrel wrote...
That's true. And maybe the city elves look different now too? (aside from the tattoos)

Though I'm not sure we have enough info to judge Merrill's height here.

I'm assuming that
Merrill is a very small elf, and is potentially a head shorter than male
Hawke. But in the video she is "walking up" to Hawke. Literally. So she
could even be on a hill. 

[HolyAvenger]

I thought the DAO elves were basically humans with pointy ears so its good to see the Dalish look distinctly different in DA2. Am willing to reserve judgement on Merrill specifically till we see more of her- I didn't like Isabella too much when we first saw her but she's grown on me as a character and in terms of her design.

[stormhit]

Addai67 wrote...

That's my PC.  Sorry if it causes any confusion, I meant to show that the facial structure and proportions are out of whack with the Origins Dalish, assuming that this is what all the Dalish look like.

This is Merrill in Origins (center).

That's actually nice confirmation that her ears haven't gotten significantly larger.  Your warden is actually the one that has the mutant ears compared to the other elves in that shot.