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Razith

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Why don't they just reveal her already? :crying:, I need to go underground till release :unsure:


Unless I missed a post somewhere to cast away the worry I have a feeling that 'possible' two characters for every class might be a bit susceptible to actions your origonal Warden made.   (Just popped over from the Anders thread where they made some interestesting posts).    Many of the characters are new or have slight connections to the Origins Warden (such as Isabella).   But Meryl and Anders have a bit stronger connection.

Anywho theories that part of me wants and doesn't want to happen (it'd be an interesting dynamic but I hate the idea of losing the chance at a character)

1.  Meryl won't be available if you killed the Dalish tribe and sided with the Werewolves.
2.  Anders dies in Awakening and then you don't get a chance to use him in DA II.

Never played the Dalish opening so I'm not certain if she leaves the camp or stays but the only non paragon action I took in Origins was siding with the Werewolves and I might be regretting that if this turns out to be the case and have to replay Origins. 


TLDR - Meryl and Anders might be available only if certain events happened in Origins and Awakening.  Hopefully Bioware will release some new information and allow some of us to sleep at night.

Modifié par Razith, 08 février 2011 - 08:13 .


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Not sure why Merrill wouldn't be available if you killed the Dalish. How would she even know about that? And even if she did, it's something which relates to the Warden, not Hawke.

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Razith wrote...

1.  Meryl won't be available if you killed the Dalish tribe and sided with the Werewolves.

Someone obviously didn't play as a Dalish. Merrill is from a different clan than Zathrian's, so she wouldn't have died if the werewolves overran them.

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Kimarous wrote...

Razith wrote...

1.  Meryl won't be available if you killed the Dalish tribe and sided with the Werewolves.

Someone obviously didn't play as a Dalish. Merrill is from a different clan than Zathrian's, so she wouldn't have died if the werewolves overran them.


That is why I said I didn't play the Dalish opening (that and I mispelled Merrill).  That's good to know they are seperate and shoots down that theory.   Trust me I'm highly anticipating having her in my party.

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As for Anders, David Gaider did say that he ends up in the Free Marches regardless of how you handled the future of his life (or death) in Awakenings, but that the circumstances of how he arrived to be where he is today will still be in some way reflected in-game.

Also, I'd imagine if Merrill was dead in DA2 then the game would just abruptly end with a magical barrier that Hawke and company just never get passed, and no one with a blood ritual to disable it. And they all died, the end... lol

Modifié par Satsuma, 08 février 2011 - 08:39 .


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Satsuma wrote...

As for Anders, David Gaider did say that he ends up in the Free Marches regardless of how you handled the future of his life (or death) in Awakenings, but that the circumstances of how he arrived to be where he is today will still be in some way reflected in-game.

Also, I'd imagine if Merrill was dead in DA2 then the game would just abruptly end with a magical barrier that Hawke and company just never get passed, and no one with a blood ritual to disable it. And they all died, the end... lol


True I suppose, I only tend to check into the forums every few days so I tend to miss some key things here and there, thanks for the information!

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I don't know. The way the Devs have been so silent about her while everyone else is being revealed an now Anders is making me think that she's not going to be a full companion. For all we know that isn't her in Varrics book. I know its unlikely that it wouldn't be her but I just don't like the silence and the lack of any real proof that she's in the game as anything more than a rare appearance in the game.

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I have no doubt as to whether she's a companion or not, it's pretty obvious she is, I just want a reveal... I was supposed to go dark at the start of February, now it's the 8th and I can't because I need to see her reveal :-(

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ViSeirA wrote...

I have no doubt as to whether she's a companion or not, it's pretty obvious she is, I just want a reveal... I was supposed to go dark at the start of February, now it's the 8th and I can't because I need to see her reveal :-(


If you want I can send you the link with her official reveal when she gets it :)

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Razith wrote...

Unless I missed a post somewhere to cast away the worry I have a feeling that 'possible' two characters for every class might be a bit susceptible to actions your origonal Warden made.   (Just popped over from the Anders thread where they made some interestesting posts).    Many of the characters are new or have slight connections to the Origins Warden (such as Isabella).   But Meryl and Anders have a bit stronger connection.

Anywho theories that part of me wants and doesn't want to happen (it'd be an interesting dynamic but I hate the idea of losing the chance at a character)

1.  Meryl won't be available if you killed the Dalish tribe and sided with the Werewolves.
2.  Anders dies in Awakening and then you don't get a chance to use him in DA II.

Never played the Dalish opening so I'm not certain if she leaves the camp or stays but the only non paragon action I took in Origins was siding with the Werewolves and I might be regretting that if this turns out to be the case and have to replay Origins. 


TLDR - Meryl and Anders might be available only if certain events happened in Origins and Awakening.  Hopefully Bioware will release some new information and allow some of us to sleep at night.

Who's Meryl? New character? ;)

You'd think people would be able to spell it correctly when it's right above the reply box :P

On a serious note: Why would Merrill not be available if you sided with the Werewolves? The clan Merrill was in (the Marethari), and the Dalish in the Brecilian Forest were completely different clans - so it's unlikely that would have any effect what so ever.

However if Anders dies in Awakening I would approve of him not being available in DA2, probably because I never liked him. ;)

Modifié par BTCentral, 08 février 2011 - 03:42 .


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hhh89 wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

I have no doubt as to whether she's a companion or not, it's pretty obvious she is, I just want a reveal... I was supposed to go dark at the start of February, now it's the 8th and I can't because I need to see her reveal :-(


If you want I can send you the link with her official reveal when she gets it :)


Much appreciated but I think I'll stick around till then, my willpower is being tested but I just leveled up. :wizard:

ViSeirA: Willpower + 3 :P

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ViSeirA wrote...

Much appreciated but I think I'll stick around till then, my willpower is being tested but I just leveled up. :wizard:

ViSeirA: Willpower + 3 :P

All you have to do is hope people stop putting spoilers in thread titles. :pinched:

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BTCentral wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

Much appreciated but I think I'll stick around till then, my willpower is being tested but I just leveled up. :wizard:

ViSeirA: Willpower + 3 :P

All you have to do is hope people stop putting spoilers in thread titles. :pinched:


I agree. Lucky me I don't care a lot to know spoiler things.

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Merrill not being available if you sided with werewolves? Very, very unlikely. They're not going to disable a new (likely romanceable) companion just because of what your warden did. As I recall, Merrill is something of an outsider - it's very possible that she was not present at the time. In addition, the tribe you meet while gathering allies against the blight is not the same one as the dalish origin.

Modifié par Collider, 08 février 2011 - 03:23 .


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Merrill was in a different clan from Zathrian's, so no, Merrill is alive either way.

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XX55XX wrote...

Merrill was in a different clan from Zathrian's, so no, Merrill is alive either way.

Yep.

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She reminds me of Yoda.

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I honestly can't see it, you do mean Yoda right? our Yoda? from Star Wars?

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ViSeirA wrote...

I honestly can't see it, you do mean Yoda right? our Yoda? from Star Wars?


Yoda from Star Wars.

She has pointy ears that goes in the same direction, the same squinty eyes, has a walking-stick (but it's glued to her back which will always look stupid), her body has a light frame and she also lives in a forest.

Modifié par Arkynomicon, 08 février 2011 - 04:11 .


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ViSeiRa

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Errr still can't see it LOL, you do realize that stick is her staff though right? and we can change it in-game.

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I know it is a staff and I still think strapping it to your back looks stupid.

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The difference is that Yoda is ugly as a kick in the balls, and Merrill is SWEET...

Hey folks, would you be participating in the Friday Dev Chat? We should team up and bombard Mr. Mike with questions about Merrill. LOL

Modifié par Drizzt ORierdan, 08 février 2011 - 04:32 .


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I dunno, she is not that pretty now that I think she looks like Yoda. That's what my Hawk will be seeing when he closes his eyes if they end up having sex.



Hmm, maybe a paper-bag will remedy that problem?

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Arkynomicon wrote...

I dunno, she is not that pretty now that I think she looks like Yoda. That's what my Hawk will be seeing when he closes his eyes if they end up having sex.

Hmm, maybe a paper-bag will remedy that problem?

Nice.  Just don't romance her then.

I do think she looks like a Martian, but looks aren't everything.   For instance your avatar-  I'm sure your Warden is still worthy of love.  lol

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Drizzt ORierdan wrote...

The difference is that Yoda is ugly as a kick in the balls, and Merrill is SWEET...

Hey folks, would you be participating in the Friday Dev Chat? We should team up and bombard Mr. Mike with questions about Merrill. LOL


What time is that going on again? If it's 11:00AM PST, then that would be 2:00PM EST. I'll try.