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[Maria Caliban]

David Gaider wrote...

..I would suggest getting a better look at her body...

Wouldn't want to go off half-cocked and all.

[TotoroTori]

tmp7704 wrote...

Gavinthelocust wrote...

One would think Merrill would turn into Marill

All this talk about the pokemons reminds me about yukielf.

This is not helping that I am playing Poke'mon as well

awww I miss Yukielf....*looks at  Merrill* I found why I love her! she is like Yukielf and my kitty combined!

[Alexia89]

Wow....Lyons...Stop telling people how to act. You are a guest here Have you not got better things to do than trying to police how "professional" the writers at acting? . I love the fact the writers and devs come on here and interact with us, i hope it continues.

[SteamPunks]

David Gaider wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...
I suspect she represents pretty well the body/silhouette of "new" female elves if nothing else, since these are shared across the board.

That is correct -- the elves are now super-slender -- though I would suggest getting a better look at her body (and her height) before making extrapolations. Not that this will stop people anyhow, but I'm simply suggesting that you realize you're operating on limited info there. This was not, after all, the "come see how Merrill and elves look" video.

Will we get to see Merrill without all the baggy clothes in the way? (I don't mean naked, but in something that shows of her figure better. Like some tighter armor or robes. Or does her current outfit do that just fine, just not in this clip?

[Harid]

I think I could deal with it if she didn't look like a stereotypical animu character.

But at least, apparently, she doesn't have a huge rack. . .but it's the head size and eye size I have issue with. . .she looks very different from say Fenris.

I just hope she's nothing like Liara(ME1)/Tali(ME:2)/Aerie(BG:2.)  Especially Aerie. . .even my Neutral Good Bhaalspawn had to kick her whiny ass to the curb.

Modifié par Harid, 11 janvier 2011 - 03:18 .

[Eclipse_9990]

David Gaider wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...
I suspect she represents pretty well the body/silhouette of "new" female elves if nothing else, since these are shared across the board.

That is correct -- the elves are now super-slender -- though I would suggest getting a better look at her body (and her height) before making extrapolations. Not that this will stop people anyhow, but I'm simply suggesting that you realize you're operating on limited info there. This was not, after all, the "come see how Merrill and elves look" video.

You have no idea how wide I'm smiling right now.. 

[David Gaider]

Sandtigress wrote...
Last time I ask it, I swear. >.> If I remember right, you wrote the Dalish origin, yes David? Would you say then that Merrill is still a recognizable character from that origin, with her character expanded thanks to her bigger role but in a way that is growth and not complete change?

I think she's recognizeable-- but I also recall Merrill having very little to say in the Dalish origin. She was focused on your mission and expressed curiosity about the elven ruins, but not much beyond that. In fact, I'd say she was more or less a blank slate. As for what she is in DA2 and why, you'll see that soon enough I'm sure.

SteamPunks wrote...
Will we get to see Merrill without all the
baggy clothes in the way? (I don't mean naked, but in something that
shows of her figure better. Like some tighter armor or robes. Or does
her current outfit do that just fine, just not in this clip?

Her current outfit does that fine. I suppose we should have expected people to over-analyze the clip (I didn't pick it, myself), but it's certainly not intended as her introduction or anything. You'll see more eventually, I assume.

Modifié par David Gaider, 11 janvier 2011 - 03:18 .

[RamonIAm]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Lord Gremlin wrote...

Tamahome560 wrote...

Why don't you negative folk make a ''Merrill is fugly and looks like a 12 year old thread'' and move over there? Since this is a appreciation thread.

On topic: If she's not a complete b*tch like Velanna was most of the time then I love her already :happy:.

Mammal glands are too large. Ahem.

She looks nice overall, cute, pure, innocent. In other words, she looks like someone one would like to defile.

Er... I don't know about you but when I see something "cute, pure, and innocent" my first thought isn't to defile it.. 
Its to appreciate and take care of it.. Though I can't speak for everyone. <_<

Defile first, ask questions later, I'm all up to it

[Blackout62]

Sabariel wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...
Unless Bioware decides to break into my apartment and perform plastic surgery on me I really don't care.. 
Besides I almost always play human.. This is a null issue for me.. 

They've been known to do that. Better watch out

The AlliGaiders already know where you live.

[The Big Nothing]

Maria, where is that screencap taken from?

[SteamPunks]

David Gaider wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...
Last time I ask it, I swear. >.> If I remember right, you wrote the Dalish origin, yes David? Would you say then that Merrill is still a recognizable character from that origin, with her character expanded thanks to her bigger role but in a way that is growth and not complete change?

I think she's recognizeable-- but I also recall Merrill having very little to say in the Dalish origin. She was focused on your mission and expressed curiosity about the elven ruins, but not much beyond that. In fact, I'd say she was more or less a blank slate. As for what she is in DA2 and why, you'll see that soon enough I'm sure.

She did have a lot to say about the ruins I thought though. I may be remembering wrong. I took her as being more of a scholarly type. Oh well

[tmp7704]

The Lyons wrote...

I really wish the writing team would exhibit Obsidian's level of professionalism in this case, as it reflects better on a title that I -want- to like as I have enjoyed the developers' past work.

Have you seen the presentation Obsidian top brass did for the Alpha Protocol? It was about hour-long and included drinking game based on the world "choice". Literally.

Level of professionalism and ability to have fun aren't exactly related

[_Aine_]

While I have many doubts about this game now, NONE of them even begin to be about the writing. Bioware always makes that fun, which is about what games are supposed to be: entertaining. Personal attacks should be kept to PM if you simply *must* or not at all, if possible. Makes the forums nicer place to be for everyone.

[RolandX9]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Create an appreciation thread for a male character, and everyone is all over celebrating their beauty and gorgeousness and adoring them like none other.

Create an appreciation thread for a female character, and everyone is busy tearing the character down by personality, appearance, bicep size, height, chin length, and whether or not they are too cute or too loose.

What the hell people? what the hell.

QFT.

Personally, I am grateful beyond words that there are main-ish characters of either gender who are neither a) Ripper Deathkill types or walking snarls of snarky angst or c) both (assuming Merrill is still, well, Merrill). Allies who are actually kind of nice and decent FTW. While there's something to be said for subverting appearance-based expectations, nothing wrong with said characters looking the part either.

[Sandtigress]

David Gaider wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...
Last time I ask it, I swear. >.> If I remember right, you wrote the Dalish origin, yes David? Would you say then that Merrill is still a recognizable character from that origin, with her character expanded thanks to her bigger role but in a way that is growth and not complete change?

I think she's recognizeable-- but I also recall Merrill having very little to say in the Dalish origin. She was focused on your mission and expressed curiosity about the elven ruins, but not much beyond that. In fact, I'd say she was more or less a blank slate. As for what she is in DA2 and why, you'll see that soon enough I'm sure.

I can buy that.  It's just that the idea of "omg she's so cute" doesn't really seem to fit with the more serious nature I, at least, got out of Merrill in the origin.  She came off even as being a bit bossy older sister, and I could certainly see bossy sister being fun when things weren't so dire.  As long as "cuuuute" is a part of her personality and not the whole of it, I won't be so worried!

[Legion 2.5]

Does anyone think that Merrill is the returning companion from Origins?

[Addai]

David Gaider wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...
I suspect she represents pretty well the body/silhouette of "new" female elves if nothing else, since these are shared across the board.

That is correct -- the elves are now super-slender -- though I would suggest getting a better look at her body (and her height) before making extrapolations. Not that this will stop people anyhow, but I'm simply suggesting that you realize you're operating on limited info there. This was not, after all, the "come see how Merrill and elves look" video.

Really?  Why?!  As it was, in Origins their limbs look like they came straight out of a concentration camp.  And not a work camp even, where they might have had some normal muscle tone.

God, I hope there's a toolset.

[Eclipse_9990]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Create an appreciation thread for a male character, and everyone is all over celebrating their beauty and gorgeousness and adoring them like none other.

Create an appreciation thread for a female character, and everyone is busy tearing the character down by personality, appearance, bicep size, height, chin length, and whether or not they are too cute or too loose.

What the hell people? what the hell.

Holy crap this! ^
Damn.. I wish I said this first.. 

[In Exile]

Sandtigress wrote..

I can buy that.  It's just that the idea of "omg she's so cute" doesn't really seem to fit with the more serious nature I, at least, got out of Merrill in the origin.  She came off even as being a bit bossy older sister, and I could certainly see bossy sister being fun when things weren't so dire.  As long as "cuuuute" is a part of her personality and not the whole of it, I won't be so worried!

I just hope Sarcastic Hawke has a OMG SO ADORABLE  line in there.

[Tinxa]

Addai67 wrote...

I admit, I cringed a little at the pile-on of look at the little elf, isn't she cute.

But, the fact that Mary wrote her is a bright spot on the horizon.  I'll just repeat the mantra to myself:  She's Sten-Loghain elf.. she's Sten-Loghain elf.. she's Sten-Loghain elf...

Not that I want to see that morph.  LOL

In fact, all the story stuff I heard in the dev diary sounds great.  Awesome, in fact.  It's really the visuals I'm struggling with.

I can just see it :

Hawke: "So Merril, tell me about the Dalish"

Merrill: "No."

[SteamPunks]

tmp7704 wrote...

The Lyons wrote...

I really wish the writing team would exhibit Obsidian's level of professionalism in this case, as it reflects better on a title that I -want- to like as I have enjoyed the developers' past work.

Have you seen the presentation Obsidian top brass did for the Alpha Protocol? It was about hour-long and included drinking game based on the world "choice". Literally.

Level of professionalism and ability to have fun aren't exactly related

I also find the staff easier to relate to if they aren't all "professional and scholarly" Also I think her "om nom" comment was made to show just how cute the character was. I personally don't see this forum as their "workplace" so they shouldn't be required to be entirley professional. Yes they should still maintain an image, but I believe they are still doing that now. (Also I know this argument is long over so this is just a side comment )

Tinxa wrote...
I can just see it ../../../images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png:

Hawke: "So Merril, tell me about the Dalish"

Merrill: "No."

omfg yes.

Modifié par SteamPunks, 11 janvier 2011 - 03:24 .

[TJPags]

Addai67 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...
I suspect she represents pretty well the body/silhouette of "new" female elves if nothing else, since these are shared across the board.

That is correct -- the elves are now super-slender -- though I would suggest getting a better look at her body (and her height) before making extrapolations. Not that this will stop people anyhow, but I'm simply suggesting that you realize you're operating on limited info there. This was not, after all, the "come see how Merrill and elves look" video.

Really?  Why?!  As it was, in Origins their limbs look like they came straight out of a concentration camp.  And not a work camp even, where they might have had some normal muscle tone.

God, I hope there's a toolset.

I'm assuming their trying to make the torso match the limbs?

Meh . . .thin, bad fitting clothes, goat ears . . . the new elf.

[slimgrin]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Create an appreciation thread for a male character, and everyone is all over celebrating their beauty and gorgeousness and adoring them like none other.

Create an appreciation thread for a female character, and everyone is busy tearing the character down by personality, appearance, bicep size, height, chin length, and whether or not they are too cute or too loose.

What the hell people? what the hell.

Holy crap this! ^
Damn.. I wish I said this first.. 

Lame. Must we really bring sexism into this?

[TotoroTori]

SteamPunks wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...
Last time I ask it, I swear. >.> If I remember right, you wrote the Dalish origin, yes David? Would you say then that Merrill is still a recognizable character from that origin, with her character expanded thanks to her bigger role but in a way that is growth and not complete change?

I think she's recognizeable-- but I also recall Merrill having very little to say in the Dalish origin. She was focused on your mission and expressed curiosity about the elven ruins, but not much beyond that. In fact, I'd say she was more or less a blank slate. As for what she is in DA2 and why, you'll see that soon enough I'm sure.

She did have a lot to say about the ruins I thought though. I may be remembering wrong. I took her as being more of a scholarly type. Oh well

This is getting more excited about her...I was actually kinda sad  Merrill doesn't say more in Mahariel's story origin, I mean at the end the look she gives I always thought it was because she held some type of feelings for Mahariel but maybe I am wrong.
I just hope we get moments in-game when she acts like a curious cat.

[The Lyons]

kalassy wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Mary and Sheryl are just people, and are allowed to have fun like anyone else. Considering how admirably they both proved themselves on Origins -- which I assume you enjoyed -- I'd think they'd be above such insulting comments as this.

Insulting indeed. Not to mention ignorant, rude, sexist, condescending, etc. I'd hate it if the writers just sat there stone faced the whole time while perfecting their craft. It's freaking Dragon Age, not the Walstreet journal.

Sexist? Hardly. I thought the "staring at FemHawke's butt" speak that appeared whenever ago was also incredibly unprofessional. I am not biased against women who want to be feminine, but we are talking the difference between upbeat and something else entirely. I really could care less how they act in their workplace or with friends, I just happened to think that the image they were sending to the outside world was a poor one. It encourages the sort of fanaticism that even the devs eventually had to decry (such as the romance craze, Talimancy, etc.) Appearances are everything with people who you do not know. Maybe that is just the yuppie in me. 

I am sorry my opinions are unrestrained when it comes to the internet. I am not representing my place of work or anyone else, not even myself as I am in the real world. Therefore, there are no restrictions attached to them. 

Modifié par The Lyons, 11 janvier 2011 - 03:26 .