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[thesuperdarkone]

Skokes wrote...

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

 Pine needles. Yikes.

Not so bad. Pine cones, on the other hand...

 

Don't even get me started on the sharp rocks, throns, excrement, burning floor, parasites, etc...

[_Somebody]

Satsuma wrote...

Perhaps Elven feet are just exponentially more durable then Human feet? Did that ever occur to anyone?

Its just something the artists wanted to do. I doubt we will get much of an explanation on it.

[Sharn01]

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

Youre right, going into the vacuum of space unprotected does not instantly kill you, you actually have a few minutes of complete agony before death takes you.

The idea that "protected" means "no parts of the body exposed" is where you are wrong. Also the part about "minutes" (if you're not adequately prepared for vacuum exposure, you'll pass out after a few seconds). Most people just assume what they know is the truth without actually looking into the matter, or understanding what a vacuum is, or what space is. But I'd rather not dedicate any more posts here to the subject, since this is about Merrill.

And on about Merrill, the matter can be expanded by saying that shoes are not actually necessary in the wild in many places. Your feet will form calluses. Although yeah, they won't be very pretty.

I dont want to spend a lot of time on it either, but being in close orbit to a brown dwarf, or even relatively close to any star with a large amount of skin explosed will lead to a very short life wearing nothing but shorts and a pair of suspenders, even if they do have a breath mask.  Of course that causes other problems, because even without the radiated heat the skin, eyes etc will start to swell after a few minutes, most of the swelling will fully recover after enough time in the proper enviroment has passed, but you will lose all or most use of the exposed area until you do. 

Making arguments that you can run around half naked in a vacuum is rediculous, and many planetary enviroments would be far worse then the vacuum of space.  I could argue about how suspenders offering the same protection as marine combat armor is equally absurd, but continueing this conversation for more then a few posts belongs in another forum, and I am sure we could find an exsisting thread to use.

Modifié par Sharn01, 14 février 2011 - 04:56 .

[Skokes]

thesuperdarkone wrote...

Skokes wrote...

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

 Pine needles. Yikes.

Not so bad. Pine cones, on the other hand...

 

Don't even get me started on the sharp rocks, throns, excrement, burning floor, parasites, etc...

Darkspawn taint, the pointy bits of mage hats, discarded crossbow bolts, Andraste's knickerweasels....

I do think I'm going to miss putting awesome hats on my mages. Merrill would look good in an Enchanter's Arming Cap.

[Orian Tabris]

Skokes wrote...

thesuperdarkone wrote...

Skokes wrote...

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

 Pine needles. Yikes.

Not so bad. Pine cones, on the other hand...

 

Don't even get me started on the sharp rocks, throns, excrement, burning floor, parasites, etc...

Darkspawn taint, the pointy bits of mage hats, discarded crossbow bolts, Andraste's knickerweasels....

I do think I'm going to miss putting awesome hats on my mages. Merrill would look good in an Enchanter's Arming Cap.

No one looks good with cowls (like Enchanter's Arming Cap)! Not even Merrill. Those things are U-G-L-Y.

[raziel3080]

Orian Tabris wrote...

Skokes wrote...

thesuperdarkone wrote...

Skokes wrote...

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

 Pine needles. Yikes.

Not so bad. Pine cones, on the other hand...

 

Don't even get me started on the sharp rocks, throns, excrement, burning floor, parasites, etc...

Darkspawn taint, the pointy bits of mage hats, discarded crossbow bolts, Andraste's knickerweasels....

I do think I'm going to miss putting awesome hats on my mages. Merrill would look good in an Enchanter's Arming Cap.

No one looks good with cowls (like Enchanter's Arming Cap)! Not even Merrill. Those things are U-G-L-Y.

I agree with this COMPLETELY! LOL

[havik206]

You people are all really stupid, out of all the character threads i've read this has to be the dumbest one by far. You idiots are arguing about trivial things like what? Like feet? Wow

[HighMoon]

I agree that the bare feet thing is a trivial concern. However, calling people dumb and idiotic is just uncalled for.

Modifié par Golden-Rose, 14 février 2011 - 07:32 .

[Orian Tabris]

havik206 wrote...

You people are all really stupid, out of all the character threads i've read this has to be the dumbest one by far. You idiots are arguing about trivial things like what? Like feet? Wow

Oh? And I suppose your flaming is more productive? Not everyone is a nob, like you. Besides, I've never seen anyone arguing over whether or not elves wear shoes. If anything, we're more discussing, the topic.

Get over yourself.

[HolyJellyfish]

Trolls are super cute when they think their opinion matters! o/`



The lack of shoes maybe to suggest the idea that elves are treated as second class citizens, design / aesthetically wise.

[raziel3080]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Trolls are super cute when they think their opinion matters! o/`

The lack of shoes maybe to suggest the idea that elves are treated as second class citizens, design / aesthetically wise.

Bolded : LOL! That's why i tend to ignore them...

Italics : Well, that would certainly explain city elves not wearing shoes. The Dalish is rather easy to explain in that they are 'one with nature' especially a mage like Merrill. 

[ViSeiRa]

havik206 wrote...

You people are all really stupid, out of all the character threads i've read this has to be the dumbest one by far. You idiots are arguing about trivial things like what? Like feet? Wow

Whenever I find a troll like you I look at their usernames, so yeah... Hotaru kicks your ass.

Modifié par ViSeirA, 14 février 2011 - 09:50 .

[Esbatty]

I can't help but imitate the voice of a Pokemon thingie with the name "Marrill" when I see screenies of our beloved Keeper. She's giving me mixed emotions... sexy big brother emtions. So I'm confused and aroused and overly protective. I think this is how a stalker feels like.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Sharn01 wrote...

Youre right, going into the vacuum of space unprotected does not instantly kill you, you actually have a few minutes of complete agony before death takes you.

30 seconds to 1 minute...after that tehy better not try to revive you.

The environment of space is lethal without appropriate protection. The
greatest threat is from the lack of pressure in the vacuum environment,
while temperature and radiation effects also have an influence. In the
low pressure environment, gas exchange in the lungs would continue as
normal but would result in the removal of all gases, including oxygen,
from the bloodstream. After 9 to 12 seconds, the deoxygenated blood
would reach the brain, and loss of consciousness would result.[1] Death would gradually follow after two minutes of exposure—though the limits are uncertain.

Humans and other animals exposed to vacuum will lose consciousness after a few seconds and die of hypoxia within minutes, but the symptoms are not nearly as graphic as the imagery in the public media. Blood and other body fluids do boil when their pressure drops below 6.3 kPa (47 Torr), the vapour pressure of water at body temperature.[3] This condition is called ebullism.[4]
The steam may bloat the body to twice its normal size and slow
circulation, but tissues are elastic and porous enough to prevent
rupture. Ebullism is slowed by the pressure containment of blood
vessels, so some blood remains liquid.[1][5] Swelling and ebullism can be reduced by containment in a flight suit. Shuttle
astronauts wear a fitted elastic garment called the Crew Altitude
Protection Suit (CAPS) which prevents ebullism at pressures as low as 2
kPa (15 Torr).[6] Rapid evaporative cooling of the skin will create frost, particularly in the mouth, but this is not a significant hazard.
A short term exposure to vacuum of up to 30 seconds is unlikely to cause permanent physical damage.[7]
Animal experiments show that rapid and complete recovery is normal for
exposures shorter than 90 seconds, while longer full-body exposures are
fatal and resuscitation has never been successful.[8]

[Lotion Soronarr]

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

Well it's not like she'd have to go from a plush life straight to roughing it in a week. And even if she did, that's a few weeks of pain compared with the ability to be more agile. Now, I don't think I'd choose to do this. I'd be worried constantly about stepping on stuff wrong. Pine needles. Yikes. Well, people have done it so it must be possible. But I certainly wouldn't.

More agile?..What?

[Eclipse_9990]

So what are we talking about Merrills bare feet now?
Traveling around with bare feet shouldn't be such a big deal for the dalish. Considering they spend their time running around dense forests, and rocky mountains. I'd think they'd know how not to step in anything bad. Be it  pointy rocks, pine cones, or halla waste.

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 14 février 2011 - 10:51 .

[XX55XX]

Their feet must have very tough callouses.

[Gabriel S.]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

So what are we talking about Merrill's bare feet now?
Traveling around with bare feet shouldn't be such a big deal for the Dalish. Considering they spend their time running around dense forests, and rocky mountains. I'd think they'd know how not to step in anything bad. Be it pointy rocks, pine cones, or halla waste.

Why would they do that? Perhaps they like worms and bugs and huge roaches (the kind you only find in the forest) under their feet and between their fingers. Green goo and brown marrow.

Hm... maybe they're like those African tribes that squish bugs unders their feet then eat them raw.

[Eclipse_9990]

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

So what are we talking about Merrill's bare feet now?
Traveling around with bare feet shouldn't be such a big deal for the Dalish. Considering they spend their time running around dense forests, and rocky mountains. I'd think they'd know how not to step in anything bad. Be it pointy rocks, pine cones, or halla waste.

Why would they do that? Perhaps they like worms and bugs and huge roaches (the kind you only find in the forest) under their feet and between their fingers. Green goo and brown marrow.

Hm... maybe they're like those African tribes that squish bugs unders their feet then eat them raw.

Lol. I think its more like they like to feel the earth or nature beneath their feet. Like Toph from Avatar. 

[Duncan Anderson]

Bah! I've gone barefoot loads of time, around cities and wooded areas, it's not nearly as difficult, painful or dirty as people seem to think. After a couple of minutes you automatically avoid anything it would be unpleasant to stand on without even thinking about it.

[Gabriel S.]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

So what are we talking about Merrill's bare feet now?
Traveling around with bare feet shouldn't be such a big deal for the Dalish. Considering they spend their time running around dense forests, and rocky mountains. I'd think they'd know how not to step in anything bad. Be it pointy rocks, pine cones, or halla waste.

Why would they do that? Perhaps they like worms and bugs and huge roaches (the kind you only find in the forest) under their feet and between their fingers. Green goo and brown marrow.

Hm... maybe they're like those African tribes that squish bugs unders their feet then eat them raw.

Lol. I think its more like they like to feel the earth or nature beneath their feet. Like Toph from Avatar. 

Well... *chuckles* bugs are  part of that  nature.

[Gabriel S.]

Duncan Anderson wrote...

Bah! I've gone barefoot loads of time, around cities and wooded areas, it's not nearly as difficult, painful or dirty as people seem to think. After a couple of minutes you automatically avoid anything it would be unpleasant to stand on without even thinking about it.

They have Caltrop traps in Dragon Age...

I wonder if Merrill and Fenris receive bonus damage from those type of traps. Or if their feet stick like glue to a Freeze trap.

Modifié par Gabriel Stelinski, 14 février 2011 - 01:30 .

[Glycerine Queen]

Members of the Masai tribe in Kenya and Tanzania are some of the best long-distance runners in the world, and they traditionally do it barefoot over uneven terrain. They also have some of the most elegant posture of any group of people on the planet. Very suitable inspiration for a less Tolkien-esque take on elves, I think.

[Shepard Lives]

Glycerine Queen wrote...

Members of the Masai tribe in Kenya and Tanzania are some of the best long-distance runners in the world, and they traditionally do it barefoot over uneven terrain. They also have some of the most elegant posture of any group of people on the planet. Very suitable inspiration for a less Tolkien-esque take on elves, I think.

If this post doesn't deserve a free Internet then I don't know what does. I knew about barefooted African populations but I hadn't quite made the connection.

[tmp7704]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

The lack of shoes maybe to suggest the idea that elves are treated as second class citizens, design / aesthetically wise.

I'd like to give the designers more credit than that, and believe they'd never come up with such silly reasoning. If just because making simple sandals isn't beyond ability of "second class citizens" (this kind of footwear is literally thousands years old after all) so the idea of "elves have no shoes because they're poor and oppressed" is simply too dumb. And for the same reason it makes the elves appear dumb, not poor which would render such design decision quite a failure.

I'd guess perhaps sometimes a fetish is just a fetish.