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I know as David mentioned that there wasn't really a chance to get to know Merrill in the Dalish origin story. That said I really liked what interaction we had from Merrill. She seemed really even-keeled with a healthy dose of intellectually curiosity. Sure she's not a bard, or assassin etc. but I don't think a more down to earth characters can be just as fun and interesting. Either way I'm looking forward to getting to know the new and improved Merrill better!

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Alexia89 wrote...

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Does anyone think that Merrill is the returning companion from Origins?


haha when i heard there would be one from Origins i did wonder if they counted the temp ones. Bioware are sneaky like that.


I know right.  I saw Gaider here so I thought he might know the answer.

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TJPags wrote...

TotoroTori wrote...

I wonder if Merrill will grow out her hair as the years pass by.


I wonder if she'll fill out a bit.

Maybe we can get her a sandwich as a quest?  Posted Image


I was thinking more on the strawberry chocolates and other sweets

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David Gaider wrote...

This is pretty normal, I'm afraid. Mary and Sheryl and I were talking about this just the other day, and predicted this response to a tee -- though I think we're also very pleased to see she has fans, as well. No character's ever without their detractors, and that doesn't change anything. We don't take it personally, and neither should any of you.


I think its worth pointing out that many (though not all) of the most vocal Merrill critics are the same people that haven't like anything else they've seen, either. I mean, it's kinda like, "Oh, look, Joe Bob* doesn't like the way Merrill/the new elf model looks. No one saw that coming." I'll add I'm not enthralled with the way she looks, but am waiting to see more of her body before I judge, as you say. :)

*Names changed to protect privacy.

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TJPags wrote...

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WHERE DID THE SCREENSHOT COME FROM? Can someone rink me, pretty prease?


The video in the stickied "dev diary" thread.


Much obliged, partner.

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makenzieshepard wrote...

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Sexist? Hardly. I thought the "staring at FemHawke's butt" speak that appeared whenever ago was also incredibly unprofessional. I am not biased against women who want to be feminine, but we are talking the difference between upbeat and something else entirely. I really could care less how they act in their workplace or with friends, I just happened to think that the image they were sending to the outside world was a poor one. It encourages the sort of fanaticism that even the devs eventually had to decry (such as the romance craze, Talimancy, etc.) Appearances are everything with people who you do not know. Maybe that is just the yuppie in me. 

I am sorry my opinions are unrestrained when it comes to the internet. I am not representing my place of work or anyone else, not even myself as I am in the real world. Therefore, there are no restrictions attached to them. 


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Mary Sheryl...the rest of the writing team.  You guys are awesome and I love interacting with you.  That is all.


Wow.. That cats teeth is sharp.. Reminds me of a bear trap.. A soft, furry bear trap..

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Anarya wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Sheryl Chee wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

You know that heart-squeezy feeling you get when you see a basket of kittens or something?  Yeah, that's exactly what I felt when I saw this little elf.  She is unbelievably precious.  Seriously, I have never seen anything so damn adorable in my life.


Yes! This! You guys have no idea how cute Merrill is. I work here and and I still squee when she says things I haven't heard.

There's a lot of this in the writer pit:

Merrill (in-game): (something unbelievably cute)
Sheryl: GIGGLESQUEE!!!!! SO CUTE!!!
Mary: Hee hee.
Sheryl: She's so adorable I love her and want to hug her omgIcan'tbelievehowadorablesheisCAN-I-NOM-HER-HEAD?!
Mary: ... No.

erm wait, you want to "nom her head?"
*backs away slowly*:blink:


Just a leetle! Methinks Sheryl visits Cute Overload. *high-fives Sheryl*

no, srsly, cute things getting devoured  doesn't make them cuter
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The Lyons wrote...
I am sorry my opinions are unrestrained when it comes to the internet. I am not representing my place of work or anyone else, not even myself as I am in the real world. Therefore, there are no restrictions attached to them. 

 To me, this quote sums up everything that's wrong with the internet. On the internet, you have no face, no social status, no reputation, which allows you to be yourself more than ever indeed. But there IS one restriction, and it's respect for others. If you don't care about others, why not be yourself... with yourself then, you know ? If you don't care for people's reaction to your opinions, then why should they care about your opinion ? That attitude may even make the people who might agree with you wanna disagree with you. No one can get everyone to agree with them but at least you could try to present your ideas in a way that doesn't offend people. If you can't find a way, it's likely a bad idea.

Modifié par nijnij, 11 janvier 2011 - 03:44 .


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Sandtigress wrote...

Having the apparently only Dalish Warden who is not "I hate all shems I want them to die!" out there, I approve of the apparently non-incredibly-hostile personality it seems that Merrill will have (I always felt Velanna was pretty bad for Dalish PR), but writers, reassure me she'll still be recognizably Merrill if you loved the origin? Like I think Isabela is looking wonderfully fleshed out but still the Isabela we knew from DAO.

I'm hoping that Merrill too will be fleshed-out but still Merrill from what seems to be the least favorite origin out there? Or am I going to be one of the few people who even know she seems different? :-P


Yay! I had a dalish warden who wasn´t prejudiced against humans either, she was mostly curious, treated them as equals while mantaining her life-style and religious views as an elf.


My city-elf though loved killing humans, which is understandable considering what Vaughan does to him.

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Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

TotoroTori wrote...

I wonder if Merrill will grow out her hair as the years pass by.


that's actually a really cool idea - people's hair getting longer or changing styles.

or guys getting beards :lol:

but i doubt that kind of thing would happen


Yea, I think it would be a good idea if the character's 'style' changed over the years - clothes, hairstyle, beard, scars, horrifically disfiguring skin disease, etc.

Personally, I'd like to see the characters body model change as well - facial changes, wrinkles, fatter, more muscles, etc, but that is apparently not happening, so id at least like to see the 'style' changes beyond just clothes.

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So whoa wait, if she's super cute, 'virginal' but is curious about the ancient dalish ruins (someone else mentioned this either in this thread or another one just now)....does that mean she is the female elf equivalent of alistair, personality wise? sans chantry training and the big spoiler.

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bobobo878 wrote...

no, srsly, cute things getting devoured  doesn't make them cuter
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:crying: Noooooo1!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Lyons wrote...

kalassy wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Mary and Sheryl are just people, and are allowed to have fun like anyone else. Considering how admirably they both proved themselves on Origins -- which I assume you enjoyed -- I'd think they'd be above such insulting comments as this.


Insulting indeed. Not to mention ignorant, rude, sexist, condescending, etc. I'd hate it if the writers just sat there stone faced the whole time while perfecting their craft. It's freaking Dragon Age, not the Walstreet journal.


Sexist? Hardly. I thought the "staring at FemHawke's butt" speak that appeared whenever ago was also incredibly unprofessional. I am not biased against women who want to be feminine, but we are talking the difference between upbeat and something else entirely. I really could care less how they act in their workplace or with friends, I just happened to think that the image they were sending to the outside world was a poor one. It encourages the sort of fanaticism that even the devs eventually had to decry (such as the romance craze, Talimancy, etc.) Appearances are everything with people who you do not know. Maybe that is just the yuppie in me. 

I am sorry my opinions are unrestrained when it comes to the internet. I am not representing my place of work or anyone else, not even myself as I am in the real world. Therefore, there are no restrictions attached to them. 


Ok not sexist, but can everyone say self important? Good lord, exactly how much authority do you think you have in calling out Sheryl for posting in a way that doesn’t meet your prissy little benchmark? Precisely none methinks.

Bringing us back on topic, Merrill is without doubt the character I’m most interested in meeting (I'm actually digging the new design).

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Look! It's an elf who is female. A dalish elven female.

Jenifer Hepler suggests she's a "virginal girl next door."

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There's apparently a Merrill Appreciation Group.

What we know:
She's written by Mary Kirby.

Edit: David has reminded me that this is 'speculation.'

So remember that BioWare has not confirmed that she's a virginal girl-next-door.' They certainly haven't confirmed that she's a love interest.

Holy Cow , don't make her a romance !
Hawke would look like a pedo-Assuming Direct Control !

#540
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makenzieshepard wrote...

The Lyons wrote...

Sexist? Hardly. I thought the "staring at FemHawke's butt" speak that appeared whenever ago was also incredibly unprofessional. I am not biased against women who want to be feminine, but we are talking the difference between upbeat and something else entirely. I really could care less how they act in their workplace or with friends, I just happened to think that the image they were sending to the outside world was a poor one. It encourages the sort of fanaticism that even the devs eventually had to decry (such as the romance craze, Talimancy, etc.) Appearances are everything with people who you do not know. Maybe that is just the yuppie in me. 

I am sorry my opinions are unrestrained when it comes to the internet. I am not representing my place of work or anyone else, not even myself as I am in the real world. Therefore, there are no restrictions attached to them. 


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Mary Sheryl...the rest of the writing team.  You guys are awesome and I love interacting with you.  That is all.


Seriously, I second this post. I have to spend 90% of my day at a job I sometimes enjoy and sometimes utterly hate, but I have to be super-serious ALL THE TIME. So, when I come home and have downtime on the Internet, the LAST thing I want is for everyone to feel like that have to act super-serious or suddenly their profession is scarred.

Mary, Sheryl, rest of the team... keep being your silly, humorous selves. Half my fun on this forum is laughing at y'all's posts (and watching David's virtual eye twitch at the more... erm, high-strung posters). The other half of the fun is poking the barely-alive Loghain thread and watching (with utter fascination) the Varric Love Train and pondering if it's safe to fully board or not. Posted Image

If these boards were meant to be no fun, all serious, there wouldn't be emoticons, now would there?

So... lighten up, Francis!

#541
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merrill is cute, adorable, and lovable. hope she is romanceable though if not

then dosent matter still my fav companion so far plus mary wrote her

its a win win in my opinion oh and squeeee ahem yeah.

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Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

So whoa wait, if she's super cute, 'virginal' but is curious about the ancient dalish ruins (someone else mentioned this either in this thread or another one just now)....does that mean she is the female elf equivalent of alistair, personality wise? sans chantry training and the big spoiler.


I think she will probably be like Lanaya. . .minus the horrible early life.

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The Lyons wrote...

Sheryl Chee wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

You know that heart-squeezy feeling you get when you see a basket of kittens or something?  Yeah, that's exactly what I felt when I saw this little elf.  She is unbelievably precious.  Seriously, I have never seen anything so damn adorable in my life.


Yes! This! You guys have no idea how cute Merrill is. I work here and and I still squee when she says things I haven't heard.

There's a lot of this in the writer pit:

Merrill (in-game): (something unbelievably cute)
Sheryl: GIGGLESQUEE!!!!! SO CUTE!!!
Mary: Hee hee.
Sheryl: She's so adorable I love her and want to hug her omgIcan'tbelievehowadorablesheisCAN-I-NOM-HER-HEAD?!
Mary: ... No.


This isn't meant to be a slight or anything, but how does one who acts like this on the internet get taken seriously as a writer? I have not heard so many instances of "squee" and "nom" from women on the 'net since I was early teens. When someone basically says that they behave in a manner similar to a teenager in real life, my faith in their ability to actually write a good story or character diminishes greatly. I really wish the writing team would exhibit Obsidian's level of professionalism in this case, as it reflects better on a title that I -want- to like as I have enjoyed the developers' past work.

I really hope this is not indicative of a shift in the quality of BioWare's future games. 


I am sorry. I know this has been addressed before, but I cannot just keep calm and carry on and say nothing. I know some people are lead to believe that very rigid behaviour masks are needed to have a satisfactory professional performance, but I dare to disagree. Sheryl Chee has already proven to everyone how much she's worth as a writer and I doubt her work was done keeping a grumpy face and a hollier-then-thou office attitude. That's the same type of attitude that prevents people with tatoos getting jobs. She's a videogame writer, not a bank accountant. Self-confidence leads both to excellence and freedom. She showed great joy in her work and I doubt much people can claim the same. Besides, whoever is offended by watching a woman squee, is like being offended by watching a cat purring. The information she pulled through in such an adorably expressive way was very relevant to this thread, in my opinion, specially coming from a BioWare writer, and in no way deserving of bashing.

Please, Sheryl, do not stop making such adorable and spontaneous comments. Merrill looks adorable indeed and we can't wait to hear more from her.

#544
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DragonRacer13 wrote...

The other half of the fun is poking the barely-alive Loghain thread and watching (with utter fascination) the Varric Love Train and pondering if it's safe to fully board or not. Posted Image

If these boards were meant to be no fun, all serious, there wouldn't be emoticons, now would there?

So... lighten up, Francis!


OT but definately get onboard.  The Varric thread is the friendliest and  most accepting thread on the forums,  Isabela is my fav character but the Varric thread in my favorite fan thread, there is just so much win and awesome there!

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Merrill is cute but creepy like a character design out of a Tim Burton movie.

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Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
So whoa wait, if she's super cute, 'virginal' but is curious about the ancient dalish ruins (someone else mentioned this either in this thread or another one just now)....does that mean she is the female elf equivalent of alistair, personality wise? sans chantry training and the big spoiler.


Heh.

We think she's super-cute, but bear in mind our standards may be slightly different than yours.

You'll see. :)

#547
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Another character that looked way better in DA:O. She looks deathly ill here.

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Harid wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

So whoa wait, if she's super cute, 'virginal' but is curious about the ancient dalish ruins (someone else mentioned this either in this thread or another one just now)....does that mean she is the female elf equivalent of alistair, personality wise? sans chantry training and the big spoiler.


I think she will probably be like Lanaya. . .minus the horrible early life.


I imagine that she'll be something like this too. I like Lanaya. She seems totally rad.

#549
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Oh...now he teases. Meril's got a daaaaaarrrrrk side!

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I haven't really been keeping up with DA2 news, but is this character supposed to be romanceable? Because she looks 12. Is that what DA2 elves are supposed to look liike?